Originally posted by boubhs

Originally posted by Zezel

Originally posted by boubhs

Originally posted by Margulis

I've actually seen quite a few people comment about the high quality water in TOR.  Curious as to what you all think of this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vmk4onieEiM

ahahaha man the game really sucks!!!

Watch other videos too. Watch the dead world. The dead npc's. The non-existing creatures and the static mobs. The non-realistic weather and the lack of day-night cycle.

 

You can also add that:

 

AH needs major improvement. Search sucks.  No bid option. No split option. Limited to 50 auctions…

 

No guild lvl’s, bank, perks, housing.

 

UI needs major improvement. Resizing and positioning must be an immediate addition. Raid frames options must be improved also a lot. Add more skill bars. That’s for start at least.

 

No Macros.

 

No Target of Target option.

 

Items dont stuck in bags / bank.

 

No wardrobe or something similar.
 

No specific warzone queue option. Only random.

 

Lot's of loading screens.

 

Too many bugs for such an expensive and game.

Check forums for those. It’s not only happening to me (44lvl shadow):

 

Client crushes often.

 

Warzones drops you to character selection screen.

 

Quest’s that can’t be abandoned in the quest log.

 

Ppl that without a reason cannot enter Flashpoints and bugged loots from bosses.

 

Etc.


If it wasn’t a SW theme it would be already dead...
 

Why do you post?

Same cut and paste "issues" in multiple threads.

 

Back on Topic, OP I didn't buy the game for water textures and it's a small nit pick complaint IMO.

 

i guess everything in this game is small when it comes to complaints about it. if it was any other mmo, any matter would be huge and there are a lot of important negative matters about it.

Complaints yes, the constant bashing from people who dislike it and do not/will not play it is amazing.  I mean go find another MMO to play right?

I mean the game isn't even 30 days into release and the Mayan calendar has doomed it.

All games have bugs remember "The Ice Stone is Melting"

Originally posted by holdenhamlet

Have you seen a waterfall yet?  I swear it's the worst looking waterfall animation I've seen in any MMO.

Add "you can't swim", let alone "swim underwater", to the huge list of things common in other MMOs and yet strangely absent from this one.  

Beacuse none of the stories have an underwater chapter... lol

Water disappearing when a camera goes beneath it isn't a BUG.

Calling it a "bug" implies that it was unintentional.  Bioware didn't even add splashes and sound effects to their water until three weeks before launch.  Any stream or pond or lake is still dead silent when you go stand next to it.  Its the BARE minimum amount of effort to be considered acceptable.

They, don't, care, about, their, water.   Its not a bug. Its an intentional lack of giving a crap.

Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

Water disappearing when a camera goes beneath it isn't a BUG.

Calling it a "bug" implies that it was unintentional.  Bioware didn't even add splashes and sound effects to their water until three weeks before launch.  

They, don't, care, about, their, water.   Its not a bug. Its an intentional lack of giving a crap.

Um ok.........?

Originally posted by Zezel

Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

Water disappearing when a camera goes beneath it isn't a BUG.

Calling it a "bug" implies that it was unintentional.  Bioware didn't even add splashes and sound effects to their water until three weeks before launch.  

They, don't, care, about, their, water.   Its not a bug. Its an intentional lack of giving a crap.

Um ok.........?

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm oky!/.1/!?!'

Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

Originally posted by Zezel

Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

Water disappearing when a camera goes beneath it isn't a BUG.

Calling it a "bug" implies that it was unintentional.  Bioware didn't even add splashes and sound effects to their water until three weeks before launch.  

They, don't, care, about, their, water.   Its not a bug. Its an intentional lack of giving a crap.

Um ok.........?

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm oky!/.1/!?!'

Not sure what game your playing troll but I think I've spent 30 seconds of play time standing in water.

What are you talking about?

I'm not saying water doesn't exist in the game.  

Oh, and nice job on calling me a "troll".  Nice use of nerd terminology there.  

Originally posted by allegria

Originally posted by holdenhamlet

Have you seen a waterfall yet?  I swear it's the worst looking waterfall animation I've seen in any MMO.

Add "you can't swim", let alone "swim underwater", to the huge list of things common in other MMOs and yet strangely absent from this one.  

Beacuse none of the stories have an underwater chapter... lol

Going to an underwater city would have been awesome IMO.

Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

What are you talking about?

I'm not saying water doesn't exist in the game.  

Oh, and nice job on calling me a "troll".  Nice use of nerd terminology there.  

No your being absurdly critical of a terrain feature in the game that has no effect (at this point) in the game.  Nice attempt of an insult, face it your trolling.

Originally posted by holdenhamlet

 

Add "you can't swim", let alone "swim underwater", to the huge list of things common in other MMOs and yet strangely absent from this one.  

is it really common?

can't swim under water in LOTRO

Can't swim in Aion

I don't recall swimming in Guild Wars

Couldn't swim at all in Lineage 2 when it was released

I don't recall coming across swimming in my time in CoH but there very well could be swimming areas somewhere in the game.

My thought is that games don't add swimming unless they have some sort of underwater content. It's probably unfair to point out SWToR in this regard when other games don't have it or have limited swimming.

Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

Originally posted by Zezel

Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

What are you talking about?

I'm not saying water doesn't exist in the game.  

Oh, and nice job on calling me a "troll".  Nice use of nerd terminology there.  

No your being absurdly critical of a terrain feature in the game that has no effect (at this point) in the game.  Nice attempt of an insult, face it your trolling.

First of all, its you're, not your.  

Second of all, I'm pointing out that its not a BUG that the water in the game vanishes when a camera goes beneath it. I'm playing TOR right NOW, I'm logged in and on Coruscant.  I think its a fun MMORPG. 

Finally, you're the one attempting to throw insults around.

Yes the troll responding with a spelling lesson and an insult when called out about "They, don't, care, about, their, water.   Its not a bug. Its an intentional lack of giving a crap."

Which goes back to what I said about it's a non issue IMO, because there is no water enviroment in game.

Originally posted by Sovrath

My thought is that games don't add swimming unless they have some sort of underwater content. It's probably unfair to point out SWToR in this regard when other games don't have it or have limited swimming.

I remember it being a big problem with Aion too on the forums .

Yes, exactly! There's no water content in the game, so they don't give a crap about their water. Thats why its in the condition that it is currently in.

I.E. its junk.

They skipped swimming because it really adds nothing to the gameplay.

TBH there is no point in simulating water and swimming unless you do it properly or it just feels shoddy, no MMO has managed to do that yet.  E.g. no swimming in armour, water with currents and not being able to swim up waterfalls.

Also as quite a few AOE abilities are targetted on the ground, they simply wouldn't work properly in deep water (which is a design flaw wow has).

Originally posted by NasherUK

They skipped swimming because it really adds nothing to the gameplay.

TBH there is no point in simulating water and swimming unless you do it properly, no MMO has managed to do that yet.  E.g. no swimming in armour, water with currents and not being able to swim up waterfalls.

 

Crap, bad edit: The problem isn't simulating swimming underwater. The problem is MMO's aren't making FUN content underwater.

Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

Originally posted by Zezel

Originally posted by CujoSWAoA

What are you talking about?

I'm not saying water doesn't exist in the game.  

Oh, and nice job on calling me a "troll".  Nice use of nerd terminology there.  

No your being absurdly critical of a terrain feature in the game that has no effect (at this point) in the game.  Nice attempt of an insult, face it your trolling.

First of all, its (it's) you're, not your.  

Second of all, I'm pointing out that its not a BUG that the water in the game vanishes when a camera goes beneath it. I'm playing TOR right NOW, I'm logged in and on Coruscant.  I think its a fun MMORPG. 

Finally, you're the one attempting to throw insults around.

Well, since we're correcting others.

Edit: I correct myself :p

Originally posted by RizelStar

Originally posted by allegria

Originally posted by holdenhamlet

Have you seen a waterfall yet?  I swear it's the worst looking waterfall animation I've seen in any MMO.

Add "you can't swim", let alone "swim underwater", to the huge list of things common in other MMOs and yet strangely absent from this one.  

Beacuse none of the stories have an underwater chapter... lol

Going to an underwater city would have been awesome IMO.

Oh god if they add underwater cities it will be the start of the "Rise of the Gungans" expansion! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkyqSmFgNe0

Age of Conan took water seriously and it has some fun under water content too.

I expect Guild Wars 2 to take that kind of content to the next level.

I expect SW:TOR to never touch water or under water content in its entire lifespan. 

Sometimes people make it hard not to bring other games into the discussion...

But on topic - and I mean on topic. If the game's going to have points where players can point out obvious graphical issues, then they should definitely have taken steps from preventing obvious graphical issues. Because this screams lazy development.

I don't quite get what the big deal is with the water. There's no underwater content and there's no swimming, so who really cares if the water is anyrhing other than a single blue plane?

I fear the day the whiners realize there's different types of rock in the world and then start complaining about the lack of realistic igneous/sedimentary/etc in their video game's terrain.