Originally posted by Torgrim

Been reading a lot on these boards and on other gaming forums that people are leaving TOR before the free month is up, either be it at max level with fully geared toon players or people gotten bored before hitting max level.

Have any of you seen this on your server or less logins in your guild or friends stopped playing?

No, my guild is growing everyday, whats the point people?, really. haters everywhere trying to make swtor looks bad, bored and a huge fail. Is the most succesful launch in the MMO history, the population is not droping is growing, ya some people will quit, but thats less than the 10%. cant wait till the end of the freetime so all the haters can eat their own words ONCE AGAIN.   

Originally posted by teakbois

Originally posted by Jarazar

I can't wait until the free 30 days expires. Then the ToR players can take over the official ToR forums. I won't even go there since it is nothing but trolling.

Wont make a difference.  Ever seen the Rift boards?  Some people seem to pay to complain, and then when legit complaints are posted they got jumped all over.

True...SWG was full of paying gripers.

That awkward moment when you use latin words to make yourself sound intelligent, but misspell a common English word and try to cover it up with some bullshit.

I find it sad there are so many people who waste their lives trying to convince people they do not know, on what they should and should not play. It's almost to the point it's getting pathetic, and mmorpg does nothing to stop the flame wars that most of these trolls cause. about 80% of the players who believe SWTOR should be abolished are ex SWG players who feel they should be playing a star wars game built as if it were SWG 2.0.

It's never going to happen, and I really question these forums nowadays, mainly because they are so full of hatred by a select few and are allowed to repeatdly troll an entire forum.

Originally posted by DarkPony

Nope. And when I made some alts a few days ago, the starting worlds were even more crowded compared to pre-launch. My server is brimming with people of all level ranges at the moment.

This^

Origin worlds are PACKED with players creating new characters on a regular basis. Activity in my guild has only increased since launch, we have more people (many of them ex WoW players) trickling in everyday.

There are players in all level ranges, plenty of people to group with, and plenty of things to do.

The players leaving now, are the players who never intended to stay in the first place.

Originally posted by Lobotomist

I am just laughing eating my popcorn , and watching all my crystal ball predicted come before me....

I cant wait to get all those posts certain fanboys stated "I will save this post so i can resurect it later , and show you how wrong you were"

heh

 

 

Predictions.. hilarious. 

Sarcasm aside, is anyone here playing on Hex Droid?

The full EU-PvP server? There is seriously something fucked up with it. Either my chat is bugged or ...i don't know.

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Originally posted by Icewhite

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Originally posted by lizardbones
Is 'unjured' another word I'm going to have to look up? It's bad enough I have to go looking for things like the 'True Scotsman', 'Strawman' or 'Tu Quoque'.

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Naw, it's just a nonsense word for "sorry, failed to score".

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pressing enter usally fix chat issue(or press control-u 2 time)

Originally posted by lizardbones
Because I did look it up and the closest I could find was 'jured' in the Urban Dictionary...which is just short for 'injured'. I would rather be playing SWToR right now.

Me too.

But some things are coming out in this thread!  We need a few more alts up in here.

Originally posted by pandrax

I find it sad there are so many people who waste their lives trying to convince people they do not know, on what they should and should not play. It's almost to the point it's getting pathetic, and mmorpg does nothing to stop the flame wars that most of these trolls cause. about 80% of the players who believe SWTOR should be abolished are ex SWG players who feel they should be playing a star wars game built as if it were SWG 2.0.

 

It's never going to happen, and I really question these forums nowadays, mainly because they are so full of hatred by a select few and are allowed to repeatdly troll an entire forum.

You write a post that assumes something.. you say negative things and even toss out insults.   Then you complain that site allows trolling?   Seriously?

If someone posts they like a game a bunch of people descend on them to tell them their opinion is wrong.

If someone doesn't like a game... they are a former swg player.. a hater.. a troll or hope the game fails.

Much logic you have.  (yes I meant to word it like that).

Maybe people are sick of the same old game being released.. yet even then it descends into some discussion about WoW even tho WoW didn't invent the mechanic people are sick of.

There are few new MMO releases and most of them are relatively the same game.   Yep TOR said exactly what it would be but that doesn't make people wrong for wanting something else in a very stagnant market.

Nor does it make them former swg players, haters or trolls by default.   Just as your opinion is no more fact than someone else, nor is it more important.

People who are enjoying a game should be off playing it... people in general come to forums becuase they have an issue or are bored.   Which is pretty much why its the same chat as /general.

oh and yes it amazes me how much time people enjoying a game have... to troll forums in defense or a product they didn't create and have no stake it... nor is their enjoyment diminished because someone else doesn't like it.

In theory, there should be more people on forums complaining about a game than defending it, because:

a) If it's perfect, they should be playing it, not browsing negative threads for arguments
b) People complain about things as they want them to be rectified and made aware of, what do the people who are in love with the game aim to achieve?

Just simple logic, there shouldn't ever be any arguments here, why do people need to defend a game that doesn't personally concern them.

Only thing keeping me in-game is my class quests and some of the more interesting planet-wide story arcs.  I am logging in because I want to find out what happens next - which is a good thing.

However, once the storylines run dry (if and when that happens, I dunno), I probably won't stick around much longer after that.  Its no different than with Rift.  The rift system was interesting enough to keep me coming back... but once the luster wore off and it became your 'standard' mmo, I left. 

Unfortunately - while providing entertaining diversions from the most enjoyable aspect ( the storyline), pvp/space/crafting aren't engaging enough to keep me subbed once I get bored with the quest lines.  I'm not one for playing for the sake of playing or faction/raid/quest grinding for the sake of improving a character.

Originally posted by Vegetto

a) If it's perfect, they should be playing it

Or at work.  :shrug:  Also, false dichotomy.

There are getting fewer and fewer FULL servers, and right now there is only one. When I created characters just before official launch, at this same time, about half the servers were FULL. So the populations are actually dwindling. Plus there has been too many people saying they are quitting.

Seeing loads of players around is not a sign of game staying healthy, as the servers are all instanced, and once a certain number is reached you put on to another instance on same server. Not sure what the figues are but if only 200 can be on one instance, then  you may be on the instance that has 200 players. But if you are in an instance where there are 6 players then you will think it is dead, as only has 6 people but the server may be holding of 1000s of players across 5+ other instances.

I can not see myself playing SWTOR forever and ever, and will likely quit once I have played through each class thoroughly, and may return to play it through again at some point, unless they add loads to the game other than story quests, which will make me stay.

The game needs more meta games which SWG had plenty of. Trying to loot the last collection piece which was extremely rare was an annoying concept, but it certainly worked in keeping you subbed. Beast Master and the mutations kept you hooked too. Crafting especially kept you hooked, in the pursuit of hoping for a certain resource to spawn and that it will be better than what you already got.

SWTOR is mainly just an enhanced version of the Legacy quests in SWG Take away the Legacy quests in SWG you have a tonne of things to do. Take away the stories from SWTOR, and you are left with virtually nothing to do.

With SWG gone, I will certainly be quitting SWTOR sooner, as now my time is more focussed on SWTOR, than split between SWG and SWTOR. LA could have gotten rich from keeping both active

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Originally posted by Icewhite

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Originally posted by Vegetto
a) If it's perfect, they should be playing it, not browsing negative threads for arguments

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Or at work.  :shrug:

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Same, but it's like countering arguments to try and prove people wrong.

I'm sure people don't want to hate something, especially if they made the effort to buy it and try it out, so it's obviously a case of customer dissatisfaction.

If i spoke to someone at a shop, said a product was not upto the standard i was told it would be, and he said "you're a troll, i love it, you're lying", i would smash his spotty face in.

But vice versa, i wouldn't feel the need to run into the shop and tell him how much i love the product, he would say "and..."?

My server is crammed, particularly on the Imperial side.  I had some trouble getting quest nodes last night, for the first time since beta.

I haven't had a queue in a long time, but I suspect they raised the cap.

I've been reading this site for a few years now, and it's the same evry single launch. This site should be renamed "EXmmoer-rpg.com" given that the majority of the forum posts are by the minority who actually dislike every mmo on the market.

Play what you enjoy and don't give a second thought to those who spend time posting "constructive" critisism about [ insert any mmorpg released in the last 10 years ].

Originally posted by Vegetto

Same, but it's like countering arguments to try and prove people wrong.

I'm sure people don't want to hate something, especially if they made the effort to buy it and try it out, so it's obviously a case of customer dissatisfaction.

If i spoke to someone at a shop, said a product was not upto the standard i was told it would be, and he said "you're a troll, i love it, you're lying", i would smash his spotty face in.

But vice versa, i wouldn't feel the need to run into the shop and tell him how much i love the product, he would say "and..."?

Need I point out what topic you're in?  You have cause and effect reversed.  You came here, by your own logic to a topic you should have no interest in, and therefor "conflict" should never happen--yes?

That's the basic problem with haters and fanboys--well, there are many problems with the simplistic labels--they're both convinced that the other team's motives is what the problem is.

And we've already seen one motivation revealed upthread.  Some of you (not necessarily yourself) have been at this taunt and bait game for so long that your motivations are no longer impersonal.

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Originally posted by Icewhite

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Originally posted by Vegetto
Same, but it's like countering arguments to try and prove people wrong.
I'm sure people don't want to hate something, especially if they made the effort to buy it and try it out, so it's obviously a case of customer dissatisfaction.
If i spoke to someone at a shop, said a product was not upto the standard i was told it would be, and he said "you're a troll, i love it, you're lying", i would smash his spotty face in.
But vice versa, i wouldn't feel the need to run into the shop and tell him how much i love the product, he would say "and..."?

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Need I point out what topic you're in?  You have cause and effect reversed.  You came here, by your own logic to a topic you should have no interest in, and therefor "conflict" should never happen--yes?
That's the basic problem with haters and fanboys--well, there are many problems with the simplistic labels--they're both convinced that the other team's motives is what the problem is.
And we've already seen one motivation revealed upthread.  Some of you (not necessarily yourself) have been at this taunt and bait game for so long that your motivations are no longer impersonal.

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Well, basically, i'm really struggling with my servers population at the moment, my guild activity has dropped to 10%, i haven't managed to get a group for a fortnight, so i thought this thread may have people suffering similar.

Although, in a previous post, i was called a liar. It's astonishing people would make things up, if i was grouping, chatting and had a full guild, i would be chuffed. So of course, i questioned my servers population - EU - Hex Droid. It says full, but i can't find people :(