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  Renoaku

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1/04/12 7:28:00 PM#41

1. MMORPG.COM is not supporting the SOPA Act in any way. I just checked recently and they closed down the Politics Section, and the Religion section they simply do not allow topics about such anymore. One of the Moderators already said this on another thread topic about SOPA.

2. Since this was posted by a Moderator, I will say that it is up to those individuals who wish to support SOPA, or Not. If SOPA was just about stopping piracy all together I would be for it, however I have found that SOPA is a violation of our first right ammendments and U.S Constitution in my opinion after looking into SOPA myself. It gives rights to whoever is in charge to censorship the internet, which means I will no longer be able to access certain sites such as Pirate Bay, or any site they deem has copyrighted material even YouTube if I am recording a video of my family in real life for example and someone drives past in a car playing a song I could get sued for what I know unless I edit all that out.

3. Piracy is not as bad as they say anyways I mean no offense and wont name software companies specifically here, but there are some software companies they sell their software license for $1000 USD for the entire collectors suite of programs, then the next update comes out they again you have to pay at least $500 or such for an update, I really do not have that type of money. As for illegally cracking software there are 3 ways to do it. 1. You can run the software on a virtual machine, and system restore the Virtual machine 30 days each time it expires so you can keep it as long as you need. 2. You can use a crack, or 3. You can use a program that allows you to inject running the program at a certain date before the trial expires called Run as Date, it is a legit program used for the right purposes.

4. Piracy of Movies, Games, Music, ETC. Again it is not as bad as they say, I have a netflix subscription myself so I pay for movies, however if Netflix doesn't have the movie I google the movie and find a free site streaming the movie, wherever or not I go to a site like Pirate bay and obtain an illegal download or not is besides the point because even if I stream a movie from netflix I could just hit the record button on my camtasia and that is just as illegal, however the only difference is I am not making any profit off anything, and I am not selling their movie or work in any way so really no one knows but I do pay for my movies legally through services such as netflix however I will not pay for 1. Rentals for 1 day streaming for one single movie, 2. I will not go to a red box, 3.  I will not pay for Video on demand rip-off for streaming movies, 4. I will not go to a video store.

Why? To answer this I beleive that Cable Television needs to come to an end there is no reason cable television should exist anymore period, even Satellite can come to an end pretty much. The only TV Channels you need live are 1. The News Channels, and 2. The Weather Channel, Beyond that there is no point in having streaming movies through a Cable, because it is a waste of bandwidth and we all know it. We have DVR's and Netflix for example so if we want to watch a movie just storing the movie in a Database people can pay a monthly fee without all those stupid HBO, Stars charges, and go pick any movie, and episode they want to watch and watch it on their time on their Television through a digtial box without the need for high priced cable/Bandwidth fees, all it would requite is an internet connection aka Cable Internet, and without all those extra signals bandwidth on Cable Modems could be increased.

5. Game Piracy is a serious joke, some games are not even worth buying period I will not pay $50 a copy of a game when I don't know if it is worth playing or not. If I want to purchase a game then I will wait until christmas and spend $5 for the game on steam if I dont know if it is worth playing or not.

Another Fact is that Game Piracy is easy to deal with if they do not want their games pirated all they have to do is make most of its features online such as game save files so that they save to a server with all their other data and the person has to login with a user name and password for them to save properly this is a simple solution, but the game companies like those that made some of the most pirates games such as Red Faction Armageddon, or Dead Island, These games are easily pirated throguh steam or not by using certain programs I wont name here and for what you dont know how to pirate there is google it teaches you everything step by step for almost anything, but again those that actually like the game will buy the game so no worries there. I just bought like 5 steam games + addon packs as well.

6. Music Piracy, This is something you cant or will never be able to stop as long as recording from a computer, radio, or anything else exists period, You can record movies from a computer, or record music to a tape on your Radio so there is no real way to stop this, what is going to stop me from walking around real life and selling my tapes illegally or making an illegal underground exchange through SD Cards between friends for real money or piracy I have seen others doing it in my community so what would SOPA Really do.

I am not saying that I have actually done any of this piracy as I have listed above but simply I know more than enough about all the piracy to know how to get around pretty much any security a software company or game throws at me, and as far as I am concerned their electronic agreement with an I agree button means nothing to me period unless I actually sign it in real life in a court it could be debated however I really don't care about City Laws, or State Laws myself, I don't even bother to read them all the only laws that really make good enough sense and everyone should be following are the ones in our U.S Constitution which people are completely trying to get rid of every single day. I am not saying that I go out break laws daily or something like that just making a point about some of the laws that states, and city have tried to pass which have been unconstitutional.

The united States OF America Is still We The People Right?

I would say that We The People, never really voted for SOPA, this has been something passed by Senate, Software Industries, and Government under our noses, therefore we really did not vote for such, and the only people who are in favor of such realyl are the big Software and Entertainment industries who are paying off other people to help in favor of them and such as well too most likely. But hey for those supporting the SOPA act, why not boycott all their games, and Software it will help them realise that we are in control not them. Again You can't restrict the Free Flow OF Information on the Internet, and You Can't restrict our rights as American Citizens.

Anonymous, whoever you are as Anonymous, Do what you have to do to stop this corruption, I will do my part by complaining to the ESA myself and continue to spread the word about SOPA. We can't have these acts of our government to ruin the United States for what it is and what it has been for all these years, and hey the Software, and Game industry knows I am right. Internet Censorship is not the key to solving any of this, and will not stop illegal downloaders either as some sites say, but even if SOPA does get passed there will be a new threat on the internet which they will try to pass which gives people the right to know exactly where you are from, aka they will get a bill started to get rid of proxy, and VPN services because of illegal uploading to site like Rapid Share & Mega Upload, and hey this is just me thinking ahead.

So bottom line Software Industry, and Gaming Industry No offense, but you are nothing without us paying for your products, so we Dictate the orders for you, not you controlling us. You Protect your own work, And hey the game companies know they can keep illegal pirates from pirating their games by require a connection to their servers and storing the save data to their servers instead of their own pc they just dont do it because this prevents offline play, and costs them money. If you do not want your movie, music, art, or Games pirated, Do not create them. Because no matter what they are going to get stolen by at least one person out there, and from there it can go vial, not that I support this, and I  do support DMCA takedowns. But not Cneosrship. Otherwise by broadcasting, showing anyone your music Lyrics, etc, know that people have the right to free speech, and will use your work with fair use with anything they please such as a Video on YouTube, or background music playing, etc, don't like it, dont release it, dont make money that simple. But hey I am sure they get paid enough anyways its just all these movie stars, and such all they do is go splurge and spend their cash so fast, get their fame up so fast that they loose a lot of money compared to the common person flipping burgers then they have the nerve to complain about piracy.

I mean no offense to anyone but this is the way I feel about all of this, and the links I just read from the moderator, I can't support such a bill that violates our U.S rights, and again I might as well move to a foreign country like China, or Asia so I can have internet censorship because that is where our Country is going starting with this.

http://www.jesseventura.net/ Ever wonder why the United States has so many FEMA camps, well the conspiracies are all right here, things that will start a chain of events like SOPA, aka possible Civil War.

  Zyxx

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Joined: 6/24/11
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1/04/12 7:37:53 PM#42

ARGH... They only do this to get more power..!


Sign here..



  Lexin

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1/04/12 8:03:29 PM#43

I don't support SOPA and as it turns out one of the people who represents me is one of the leaders on this bill so they will not get my vote. Now if somehow this bill does pass then I am going to just cancel my internet service.


  Razeekster

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1/04/12 10:00:18 PM#44

The governement has already passed the NDAA and now they want to pass SOPA... NDAA gives the government the power to put any terrist suspects in jail, but the truth is ihat's just a cover up and they now have the power to put ANYONE in jail by saying that because the NDAA also states the suspect will not be allowed a court trial or anything. Basically if you do somethign the government doesn't like, you're going to rot behind bars for the rest of your life without even ever getting a court trial or a chance to say your side of the story. As if to add onto this now the SOPA may take away freedom of speech over the internet.. The book 1984, wasn't far off with it's famous quote, "Big Brother is watching you."


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  Renoaku

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1/04/12 10:14:31 PM#45

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJIuYgIvKsc <<< This would explain SOPA and hey I believe its right because I did some searches myself and saw this stuff for download myself on Cnet, and even on my ISP page before seriously.


  Ceridith

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1/05/12 12:04:18 AM#46
Originally posted by Renoaku

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJIuYgIvKsc <<< This would explain SOPA and hey I believe its right because I did some searches myself and saw this stuff for download myself on Cnet, and even on my ISP page before seriously.

Thanks for the link...

I never actually realized that the distributors of all the big name file sharing programs back in the day were all being hosted and actively promoted on websites owned by the same companies that today support SOPA. Thinking back about it now, I do recall all of the promoting, advertisements, and content that was pro-piracy on these sites back in the day. The research that was done for the video does look to check out as well...

I'm just stupefied by this.

  AutemOx

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1/05/12 3:53:34 AM#47

This sort of thing makes me sick.  This is a symptom of a bigger problem called CORPORATE PERSONHOOD.  SOPA will be passed because the $$ is behind it.  The end.  


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  User Deleted
1/05/12 4:14:13 AM#48
Originally posted by Ceridith
Originally posted by Renoaku

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJIuYgIvKsc <<< This would explain SOPA and hey I believe its right because I did some searches myself and saw this stuff for download myself on Cnet, and even on my ISP page before seriously.

Thanks for the link...

I never actually realized that the distributors of all the big name file sharing programs back in the day were all being hosted and actively promoted on websites owned by the same companies that today support SOPA. Thinking back about it now, I do recall all of the promoting, advertisements, and content that was pro-piracy on these sites back in the day. The research that was done for the video does look to check out as well...

I'm just stupefied by this.

Back in the day?  Cnet (for example) still hosts the Peer to Peer software. Adverts are still there.

http://download.cnet.com/BitTorrent/3000-2196_4-10211384.html  

Another edit: I am not promoting anything.  Just showing that the adverts are still on the site.  Along with the tools to pirate. On another look the ads do change.  So it might take a couple of page loads to see the p2p ads. 

 

About the thread in general: Guessing the staff got enough pm's/ emails to write an article on SOPA.  Shame you all locked every thread about the topic. Better late than never.

 

  Precusor

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1/05/12 4:58:47 AM#49

Obama is lobbying and threatening countries to enact SOPA on allot western countries.

  Pilnkplonk

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1/05/12 5:04:51 AM#50
Originally posted by Precusor

Obama is lobbying and threatening countries to enact  SOPA on every single western country in the world and you wonder why the fucking world hates you?

No, no, no...

Calm down.

"They" hate America because they hate its freedoms as exemplified by NDAA and SOPA... and because they want to stone their women and pirate the latest Sherlock Holmes flicks. Everybody knows that. What are you talking about?

  Precusor

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1/05/12 5:09:08 AM#51

What ever.. Spain passed its version of Sopa and its all thanks to Obama and his threats.

 

 

  tom_gore

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1/05/12 5:12:14 AM#52

SOPA will definitely stop piracy altogether. Just like banning drugs has stopped their production, distribution and usage.

 

Right?

  Kizzatta

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1/06/12 4:12:03 AM#53

SOPA has helped me pick and choose what products I will and will not buy. I simply won't fund any SOPA supporters if I can manage to work around it. I wonder if this type of publicity will actually have a negative impact on Sony's revenue, or will the sheep continue to be tools?


  alkarionlog

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1/06/12 12:28:32 PM#54
Originally posted by Kizzatta

SOPA has helped me pick and choose what products I will and will not buy. I simply won't fund any SOPA supporters if I can manage to work around it. I wonder if this type of publicity will actually have a negative impact on Sony's revenue, or will the sheep continue to be tools?

 

I bet sheeps will still be sheeps waiting for a wolf or for someone else kill then, if most people of the world was smart and did the right thing, we wouldn't have half the problems we have today.

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  f1seb

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1/10/12 2:17:20 PM#55
Originally posted by alkarionlog
Originally posted by Kizzatta

SOPA has helped me pick and choose what products I will and will not buy. I simply won't fund any SOPA supporters if I can manage to work around it. I wonder if this type of publicity will actually have a negative impact on Sony's revenue, or will the sheep continue to be tools?

 

I bet sheeps will still be sheeps waiting for a wolf or for someone else kill then, if most people of the world was smart and did the right thing, we wouldn't have half the problems we have today.

The majority of people who use Sony products are kids who know nothing about the current legislature and the laws that are being passed.  And when I say kids I mean pretty much everybody under the age of 30.  Myself included.

  User Deleted
1/17/12 5:33:31 AM#56

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16590585

 I saw the one post that got locked on here about sites doing a blackout in protest.  I figured it was just a few small no-name sites. Wikipedia is doing a 24 hour blackout in protest.  That's huge... 
 
 I wonder if Sghndubn over at battleclinic will put his money where is mouth is and do the same?  He is always giving an opinion on these sorts of things.  For that matter I wonder if any of the outspoken people in the gaming community who run popular sites will do this.  Any gaming or high profile sites doing this?

  PieRad

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1/19/12 8:13:38 AM#57
Originally posted by JayBirdz

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16590585

 I saw the one post that got locked on here about sites doing a blackout in protest.  I figured it was just a few small no-name sites. Wikipedia is doing a 24 hour blackout in protest.  That's huge... 
 
 I wonder if Sghndubn over at battleclinic will put his money where is mouth is and do the same?  He is always giving an opinion on these sorts of things.  For that matter I wonder if any of the outspoken people in the gaming community who run popular sites will do this.  Any gaming or high profile sites doing this?

It's brilliant if they do, best way to make people aware of this.

A lot of people don't know about this, and just go on their merry way until it hits, and then it's too late.

 

Every site with 100's of thousands of views everyday should make a blackout and make sure people know why when they try to use the sites.

 

But tbh, I don't think it will ever go through, people would go absolutely nuts if they removed the freedom on the internet, and Obama already said he would Veto it, if it goes through.

  Salio69

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1/19/12 9:28:06 AM#58

as much as i hate SOPA and PIPA, even i have to admit that theres ONE good thing SOPA would have helped with. Gold Sellers and Bot makers.

Gold Sellers are making a profit by infringing on the rights of game developers. their sites could been been shut down one by one. although they would just move to a new site and continue, its alot harder to convince someone to buy your product from a new site then it is from an established site.

it could have helped keep the gold selling down.

but over all, that bill was bad for the us citizen in general. it would be no better then china censoring its citizens for political reasons. this one would mainly benefit large corporations by censoring anything that remotely looks like compeition off the internet.

  drbaltazar

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1/19/12 9:30:42 AM#59

you cannot stop gold seller ,it is legal by law in korea to have a business that sell game currency!

  drbaltazar

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1/19/12 9:42:07 AM#60

sopa and pipa are bad for 2 reason ,the reason given are urban legend first and everything related to it was made avail by the same said industry,google it!they showed the web how to do all these stuff then come and say foul check what they do!why would they skeem like this ,to CONTROL  the web,LET ME PUT THIS BLUNTLY,whatever they do whatever they think they can muster to do what they want the only person that will be affected by unsecure web and unsecure everything will be common folk cause the rest that are techno savy will do like they did when satelite release paid per view on satelite ,they will hack the darn thing,why cause it wil be huge business.instead of hacking the satelite they ll hack the web for free web instead same difference.

all the various industry make more money since the web exist why ,cause take me i see harry potter in 240 quality wow i love it i go see it in theater

they want a law i will tel them how

1 sound lower free lagal quality to old am  quality radio (most will know what i talk about if they are 40+

2 videp lower quality to what we had without cable with rabbit ears (it was what 240  but looked like 128 or so

one problem with this idea same as before it means giving control of the web to someone and this is also a nono

so i say put these two mesure in place by law let them sue those that stream copyright meterial in higher quality as long as it is stuff they own ,not a obscur thing like the patent troll issue

and before all this copyright and patent agency need to change the way they work and revisit all exisiting patent and copyright

and remove all that are too similar!with the techno avail today this is very easy !

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