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Questions & Answers  » Bought Swtor today had a few questions...

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OP  1/04/12 8:10:26 PM#1

Hi all i just got home with swtor and its here in front of me unwrapped. I just left everquest 2 after 4 years after the F2P mumbo jumbo that ruined it.

I had never played wow before so i bought the xmas deal and got the battlechest, lich, and cata all for 35 bucks on blizz website.

Been playing it for about 3 weeks and dont find it all to bad. Prob because its new to me.

After such a long time in one game leaving it and joining another game that is older like wow makes me feel somewhat lost in that i wasnt with the game when it started and know nothing of the lore.Not many to group with and explore etc. (did not play wc3 back in the day) So im trying to decide if i should stick with wow as it is a fresh game to me?

Or start with a new game as in swtor or rift where i can go along for the ride.

Any advice or comments would be greatly appreciated.

One last thing,  while playing wow it was pretty much solo until i could do them lfg dungeons but then you miss out on the lore because your not questing , and guildies cant mentor nor anyone else to enjoy the lower lvl content and you lvl to quick. so that kinda sucks.

If anyone has played all three games your opinion is more than welcome.

Im thiry five  and was wondering if the community is mature , helpful in swtor as well.

Thanks , typed fast prob typos etc.. oh well..

 

  Jakdstripper

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1/04/12 8:25:42 PM#2

if you have never played WoW then yea the game will be fun for a few months i'm sure. this game has a crap load of content.  the only thing that it's a bit dated in WoW are the graphics but the gameplay and lore and content are definately some of the best on the market. despite all the "wow hate" it is still the most played mmo for a reason. end game gear grind does get repetitive but you've got a few months before you'll start seeing that side of the game. for now just enjoy the ride.  

 

 

if you haven't already bought Rift then i wouldnt bother with it, unless you get bored with WoW and SWTOR that is.

 

still give SWTOR a try, it's not nearly as polished or vast and content full as WoW is but it is newer and it's quite a different feel.  

 

 

  SpatterCat

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1/04/12 8:29:41 PM#3

Get in ToR from the beginning. you'll find plenty of people doing the same quests, etc, that you are... it won't be a top- heavy game, yet. Rift is basically WoW, so no need to go there if you're not maxxed out in WoW. I can't say ToR is a good game, (can't say it's bad, either), but if you want a new fresh experience to share with others, that's probably your best bet atm.

  User Deleted
1/04/12 8:36:20 PM#4

As an ex-EQ2 player who also tried WoW. Go with SWTOR. The dungeons and encounters are more rewarding. WoW is just rediculously easy for an EQ2 vet, you will get bored after a month or two at max level.

If you enjoy PvP a lot you might get into WoW for the arenas. Thats about the only thing it has ahead of SWTOR at the moment. Although rated battlegrounds are coming soon I just read.

  Drakxii

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1/04/12 8:38:27 PM#5

There won't be anymore to group with or explore with, in SWTOR or RIFT.  In this new age if casual MMOs if you anit in a guild no one is really going to talk.  

 

Basically play WoW if you want lot to explore and find funny cultural easter eggs.

 

Play rift if you want combat all the time, some what unique class system, and a standard fantasy mmo.

 

Play SWTOR if you love bioware and/or SW, so long as you don't mind a UI and features less evoled than EQ2.

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  monstermmo

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1/04/12 8:39:31 PM#6

I think WoW is definitely incredibly well made. You do level fast in it, theyve had to do that with each expansion ya know? The higher the levels the less grindy they want it to feel. They did a great job revamping the lower level zones the last time i checked tho.

 

SWTOR has faster paced combat when you start out and i was like everybody else thinking it doesnt feel like a grind because the story is really cool. Then i got to level 20 and almost immediately felt the grind and havent gone back to play since. I do have at least 30 other games im playing at the time too tho so that is a big part of why im not dedicating myself to SWTOR.

 

Continue with WoW if you like it, its truly well done. I personally got sick of the combat mechanics after 6 some years but i will never forget how uber i thought that game was.

When i got into the SWTOR beta i wasnt planning on giving the game a look at all after seeing screenshots and gameplay videos it looked just like WoW but when i played it for myself i was blown away. The first 20 levels in SWTOR are definitely damn incredible.

I will play again at some point,  actually in the past couple days ive felt on the brink of starting up my sub. I needed a break after my grind to 20. It didnt feel like a grind i just played it a ton until then and wanted to play my other games.

 

I hated Everquest, i absolutely loved a lot of aspects of it but the grind was beyond hellish back when i played it.

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  Golarum

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1/04/12 9:01:22 PM#7

As an active MMO player who's been playing since Meridian in 1996, I can give you a few pointers. I currently have active accounts in both Rift and SWTOR, and other games, and I played WoW for a while, and I am one of those so-called ''WoW haters'', but I will be as objective as possible.

WoW is an easy mode game, most games today are, but this one is easier than most, if you are looking for a mindless easy game with uninteresting lore, then WoW is for you. The game is very active at higher levels, which is a plus. If you can find a good guild, you can get a lot of help from people. But the game is just unoriginal and gets boring with time (that is for me). I played it for a while just because of the fact that my friends were playing it.

Rift is far from being like WoW like some people are saying here. It's actually imho the best game out there at the moment. The class system is very interesting, the way you play your toon can be very unique. Devs are getting out new events and content almost on a monthly basis. So you never feel like you're always grinding at the endgame. Crafting is very important, Pvp is lots of fun. It's a fast paced game compared to some other MMOs out there.

SWTOR, I am still trying to figure out what I think of it. I've been playing since release, and I admit that sometimes it's a pain just logging on. The game is different, the stroyline is amazing and you feel like you are part of a bigger picture. Crafting is different and doesn't require any time sitting there crafting, it's your companions who actually craft for you. And the companion system is very interesting. The negative, PvP is extremely repetitive, classes are all the same, every single class have the same stuns, the same way of getting out of stuns, the same basic abilities but under other skill names. There are only 4 classes on each side that are a copy of the other faction. So not a lot of diversity. Class roles are not that important. I am a big PvP player, and I spend more time PvPing, and in SWTOR, when you get in a warzone (instanced PvP), it's all levels together with everyone's stats getting boosted to lvl 50, what that does is that it doesn't make me want to level, as my alt, who is lvl 14, my main is 45, but my lvl 14 alt actually tops the DPS chart in almost every game, the same for objectives. Yes I have less abilities, but I don't seem to need more abilities. I feel like I am playing Call of Duty, just logging in, finding a random warzone, then playing a couple of matches and logging off without any real commitment.

So in conclusion:

WoW: Play it if you want easy and active

Rift: Play it if you want active and fun

SWTOR: Play it if you want different and active

Peace

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OP  1/04/12 9:56:37 PM#8

Thanks for all of you who responded you all made me think and due to the fact that i already bought all the x pacs for wow and have a free month i figure im going to play it until the sub runs out.

Figured payed for it might as well play it , also this lets swtor calm down , fix issues and lets that first free month run out for everyone so i can see what happens with the game.

I do love the in depth type of games and not easy mode wich ive experienced in wow so far. but do love the fact its still pay to play and has alot of content.

I have rift downloaded and am trying it out on a 7 day trial so far its not to bad, im wondering does the world open up more later in the game? im not very high lvl to be honest.

Ive been reading alot of reviews etc on Swtor and people are saying its like kotor3 with a little bit of mmo features put into it ,

Im not really into single player games and love to group so would this be a bad game for me?

Also if your in a guild or group or have friends on a list can you group up in the same instanced world?

Something about 200 players max per world instance i read somewhere?

How does that work?

Thanks again!

  Axxar

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1/05/12 4:31:20 AM#9

SWTOR is really group-friendly. You're encouraged to group at every turn, and since it's very new there's tonnes of people in all of the leveling areas to team up with. Don't buy into the whole "single player game with a few MMO features." That's a blatant lie. It's every bit an MMO like WoW is, except there's much more group content in the leveling areas, and a lot less at end-game until they can churn out some more content.

I can't recommend Rift. I only managed to reach level 14 in that game before getting bored out of my skull. Ironically with their soul system, playing Rift felt like playing a version of World of WarCraft where all of the game's soul had been removed.

I'm not sure if there's a max on population. In the fleet there's often well over 200 players without any copise being spawned. But in the leveling areas it doesn't reach 200 as far as I can tell. If the world your leveling in has enough players to warrant spawning a copy, it's very easy to team up with your guild/friends in the same instance. Still, each instance will feel a lot more populated than in WoW since so many people in WoW are at the max level and aren't leveling. That's the advantage of being a new game.

Of course SWTOR being new has a lot more bugs than WoW.

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  Golarum

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1/05/12 7:37:56 AM#10
Originally posted by dagon3
I have rift downloaded and am trying it out on a 7 day trial so far its not to bad, im wondering does the world open up more later in the game? im not very high lvl to be honest.
The game does open up, like any other game, the first 10-12 levels are newbie levels that teach you about the gameplay

Ive been reading alot of reviews etc on Swtor and people are saying its like kotor3 with a little bit of mmo features put into it ,

Im not really into single player games and love to group so would this be a bad game for me?

Myself, I do have the single player feeling while playing it, I do not feel that grouping is necessary or encouraged, all instances (dungeons) are on the fleet, and a lot of people don't bother leaving the planet while questing just to get back on the fleet and try to shout out for a group while doing nothing.

Another thing that is really bad for me is that groups have a maximum people of 4, which is VERY low, if they wanted to encourage grouping, they should've had groups of 6. I am not trying to discourage you, but there has been a lot of hype on the game, some people are being blinded by the fact that they have been wanting to play the game for years and now they are being let down. I myself went out and spent $150 on the collector's edition because I was sure this was the game, and right now, I am not sure I will stick with the game after the initial month.

Also if your in a guild or group or have friends on a list can you group up in the same instanced world?

Something about 200 players max per world instance i read somewhere?

Yes, it is a maximum of 200 players per instanced zone, but it's not that bad, I've tried changing once to play with my friend, and it wouldn't let us because of the limit, but he changed to my instance instead, so that's not such a big deal. There are enough instances that you won't be stuck in one place without being able to get to your friends or guildies.

 

  User Deleted
1/05/12 9:18:11 AM#11
Originally posted by dagon3

Thanks for all of you who responded you all made me think and due to the fact that i already bought all the x pacs for wow and have a free month i figure im going to play it until the sub runs out.

Figured payed for it might as well play it , also this lets swtor calm down , fix issues and lets that first free month run out for everyone so i can see what happens with the game.

I do love the in depth type of games and not easy mode wich ive experienced in wow so far. but do love the fact its still pay to play and has alot of content.

I have rift downloaded and am trying it out on a 7 day trial so far its not to bad, im wondering does the world open up more later in the game? im not very high lvl to be honest.

Ive been reading alot of reviews etc on Swtor and people are saying its like kotor3 with a little bit of mmo features put into it ,

Im not really into single player games and love to group so would this be a bad game for me?

Also if your in a guild or group or have friends on a list can you group up in the same instanced world?

Something about 200 players max per world instance i read somewhere?

How does that work?

Thanks again!

 

Rift doesnt open up. Its one leveling path the whole way to max level. So is SWTOR really. WoW gives you 2 choices of leveling areas at most levels aside from Burning Crusade. None of these games have anywhere near the same options as EQ2.

Although its easy to go to different areas of the same planet on SWTOR. You wont see the whole planet if you level while doing space missions and PvP, you will outlevel the content, so you are free to go do other quest hubs when you come back on another character.

People that say its SWTOR3 are just... well... mentally challenged. The game has a storyline which sees you through to max level, its nice and sets you up for why you are so epic and important in the battle between the imperials and the republic. But it ends at max level, its just a leveling device to keep you going and guide you to max level. Thats where the similarities to a single player game ends. Also you dont have to do your class quests solo, you can take friends along to your instances and they can watch your story. The story takes up a lot of your gaming up until level 20-30. After that the side quests and dungeons will be taking up much more of your time than your solo storyline.

Everything else in the game is 100% MMO. There are group areas at every single level where you can level up on heroic quests, which is great for xp and gear. There are 2-3 instances in every level tier, and these get reused as hard mode dungeons for end game. At end game its Dungeons, Raids, Instanced PvP and Open World PvP. Pretty standard MMO, nothing single player about it.

Regarding instancing, the low level worlds start as 100 per instance, then its 200 per instance, and in Ilum there is no instancing as it is the faction vs faction world. Everyone in all the instances can chat to one another in general chat to form groups etc, and you can switch instances to get to group / guild friends. I have no idea why anyone would complain about instancing, it stops quest points from getting congested.

  kiern

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1/05/12 2:59:41 PM#12

I played EQ2 and WoW.  WoW isn't older than EQ2, by the way.  They came out at the same time.

While WoW has become the more popular MMORPG, with the changes EQ2 has made over the years, there are things they have done much better.  You might as well play out your free month and see how it goes.  I pciked up the new expansion last spring and gave it another try, and was bored within a few weeks.  Your mileage may vary.

SWTOR is a fun game, and it is different.  Ignore the KOTOR 3 remarks, those are just the comments of haters (Lots of that on these forums for all games).  Granted, it tries to give you story like the KOTOR games, and has similar dialogue choices, but that is about it.  The rest plays like a typical MMORPG.  As for group content, despite what certain people have claimed, there is a lot of it, and it is NOT just on the fleet station.  Every planet has Heroic missions that require groups,  often many of them, and people do group to do them.  In fact, there is a lot of group content that most people don't even see, because they don't explore beyond the immediate quest areas.  It is no different than WoW,  in that you can solo your way to max level and avoid the group content, but grouping is more fun, and loot is better.   From my personal experience, there is a lot more grouping, at all levels, in SWTOR, than in WoW.    

Yes, you can group up in the same instance.  If there is another instance, anyone not in the group leader's instance will be asked if they want to teleport to their instance, or you can do it yourself manually.  

SWTOR is not perfect and needs a little work, but it has a good foundation.  Also, don't base it solely on the starter planets, which are basically just newbie areas.. Things expand a lot going forward.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  lalartu

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1/07/12 2:52:33 PM#13

there's also LOTRO, which is in the league of its own.

 

as for SWTOR, like you, I decided to postpone my decision to buy it because:

1 - their official forums are full of unresolved bug reports, i'll wait till they figure that out first

2 - too many people = long queues and especially on the servers I want to play on

3 - the only place that sells that game cheaper in my area is out of stock, so I took it as a sign to wait, it's usually better to look at the product again one the hype dies down

4 - I played the beta and really wasn't that impressed with SWTOR. it felt a lot like Rift - jerky movements, strange combat...(Wow on the other hand is smooth and combat feels responsive), so I was a little disappointed with it. I heard they're planning to fix that too eventually

5 - there is a trillion other games I'm playing and on top of that Star Trek Online is going F2P soon and I wanted to try that as well

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  OkhamsRazor

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1/07/12 3:08:56 PM#14

I think the OP sounds like quite a nice decent person so I think for that fact alone he may feel more at home in Rift because it has a decent community . Also ToR at present seems to have a reasonably friendly community ( on the servers I play on anyway ) . WoW is pretty infamous for the bad and immature attitudes of many of its players . (although to be fair you can proberbly find a decent guild still with nice people in it ) .

Game wise it depends what you like . Rift is smaller than WoW world map wise but it also maintains a degree of challenge also the pvp between the two sides is more even than in WoW .  ToR is a great game if you like rpgs because it has an actual story to it the quests are pretty standard but even so for my money ToR is a better game on a number of level than WoW .

If I were you I would try all three and see which appeals to you most . I'm planning to alternate between ToR and Rift on a monhtly basis and for the first time because of the Panda expansion I feel no desire to ever return to Warcraft .

  Raventree

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1/07/12 3:30:14 PM#15

WoW is a huge and thoroughly developed game.  I played for 5 years, but I would still recommend Rift or SWToR over it for someone just starting a new game.  Since WoW has been around a long time there is a lot of elitism.  It also has the worst chat trolling I have seen in an MMO.  That being said, it is also a great game.  It didn't get huge by sucking.

Rift is just like WoW, but with better graphics, a newer player base, and an amazing development output.  Trion does amazing work pumping out the content and giving players new things to do.  Also, the soul system gives a ton of flexibility to your chosen class.  I really like this game, but I played WoW so long that I am burned out on this style of MMO.

SWToR is very much like the MMO version of KOTOR.  It has all of the quests and fun of a single player game, but with the usual MMO conventions stacked on top.  If you are a fan of Bioware or Star Wars, this is an easy choice.

The best thing you can do is try them all and see which one feels right to you.  No matter what other people love or hate, it all comes down to what you enjoy.  Find your favorite and play the hell out of it.

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  Konfess

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1/14/12 4:53:24 PM#16

First let me say that one online community is just like another online community.  No better or no worse, even if it is a new game.  Getting in a guild that uses Voice Chat, has players leveling at a variety of levels and helps their new players is important.  Finding such a guild is next to impossible.  Many guilds in WoW have a tiered system made up of seperate feeder guilds.  At the top is the End Game Raiding guild that you will not be invited to.  At the bottom are the Recruit and Leveling guilds that you will get invites to, if you gain someones attention.  In the middle are Member guilds where you prove your Loyalty, Trustworthness, and Utility.  These guilds ae not advertised in general chat channels, and are by recomendation only.  They are dificult to find out about and to join.  But when you see the structure you know you are in one. 

People who play the game are out in the wilds, so use general chat in the wilds and annouce you are new to wich ever game and are looking to join a guild.  Ask about Voice Chat Server usage, a commited guild will have and use one.  A Fly By Night will not have or use one.  Ask about the number of members and their level and class distribution.  Look for respect, do not tollerate anything less.  There are plenty of guilds.  If you don't feel comfortable with one, move on.  Keep track of players you get along with and those you don't, you will see them again.  I hope this helps you find a guild you enjoy.

WoW is a well established game, with few flaw and none game breaking.  The art style is not everyones cup of tea, but is designed to aesthetically pleaseing, and frames per second efficient.  And in both cases it is.  I played WC 1, 2 & 3 and I don't remember any of the lore.  If this is important to you then solo play is your best bet.  Groups in online games tend to move fast and don't stop to smell the flowers, or read or listen to quests.  Pick a server and stick with it, there are way to many servers to spend time jumping around looking for a comunity you can live with.  I recomend a High or Full population weekend server.  These tend to have dedicated long time guilds.  Many of the lower and starting zones may be filled or populated by guild rejects, but you will find peopl to group with and learn from.  Low pop servers may be easy to connect and may have long time guilds remaining, but their zones tend to be ghost towns.  This may make PvP leveling safe, but finding Pick Up Groups are that much harder.

SW:TOR is a new game with some flaw.  The community is mixed regarding the severity of these flaw.  It's up to you if you can live with them.  The graphics ae stylize, and some what modern.  The segment that is interested in End Game, has reached end game, in a way you are all ready to late.  The early zones are still populated.  Look for Player Charactres in starting areas that are grouped and ask to join their group if you are looking for people to play with for some time.  People who group from the get go are different than those who group only when they have to.  Ask ASAP what their policy is on listen to dialog and DS\LS responses.  The main story line is soloable, and there are plenty of extra quest to get XP from.  It is quite easy to out level a zone or planet.  There are Heroic quest that do require 2 or more players at level to complete, but can be soloed once you outlevel them by 2 ore more levels.

Rift is a new game that tries to emulate WoW yet be different at the same time, and it does.  The graphics are much more modern than either WoW or TOR.  Risk detractors will claim it is a re-skined version of WoW.  Other will say that it is a new and different game, that tried to implement comunity standard practices.  In my opinion it shares more in common with TOR than WoW.  Good luck in finding a game that you enjoy.

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  Sovrath

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1/14/12 4:56:54 PM#17

I find, at least on the server "krayt dragon" , that there are a decent amount of "looking for groups" for the heroic quests.

I've actually done more grouping in SWToR than I have in most mmo's as I usuall prefer to go solo but the group quests here are pretty fun for the most part.

The community on my server seems reasonably mature.

I would say that you should do research and join a good guild of people. Either that or just jump head in and when people start looking for groups, join them and get people on your friend list.

  Vannor

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1/14/12 5:04:41 PM#18

OP, my advice is If you are enjoying WoW for now you just stick with it until you really want to move on. SWTOR will still be waiting for you. If you leave WoW now, whilst still enjoying it, you will probably end up going back again at some point because you never got the 'full' experience. Get some closure or you might end up game hopping a lot.

  boubhs

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1/14/12 5:07:02 PM#19
Originally posted by dagon3

Hi all i just got home with swtor and its here in front of me unwrapped. I just left everquest 2 after 4 years after the F2P mumbo jumbo that ruined it.

I had never played wow before so i bought the xmas deal and got the battlechest, lich, and cata all for 35 bucks on blizz website.

Been playing it for about 3 weeks and dont find it all to bad. Prob because its new to me.

After such a long time in one game leaving it and joining another game that is older like wow makes me feel somewhat lost in that i wasnt with the game when it started and know nothing of the lore.Not many to group with and explore etc. (did not play wc3 back in the day) So im trying to decide if i should stick with wow as it is a fresh game to me?

Or start with a new game as in swtor or rift where i can go along for the ride.

Any advice or comments would be greatly appreciated.

One last thing,  while playing wow it was pretty much solo until i could do them lfg dungeons but then you miss out on the lore because your not questing , and guildies cant mentor nor anyone else to enjoy the lower lvl content and you lvl to quick. so that kinda sucks.

If anyone has played all three games your opinion is more than welcome.

Im thiry five  and was wondering if the community is mature , helpful in swtor as well.

Thanks , typed fast prob typos etc.. oh well..

 

 

Just dont start SWTOR. Its a <five years ago> game and a very very bad wow clone.

 

RIFT is a WoW clone too but it has many new ideas and devs from TRION working really hard with patches and content.

  Golelorn

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1/14/12 5:18:44 PM#20
Originally posted by dagon3

Hi all i just got home with swtor and its here in front of me unwrapped. I just left everquest 2 after 4 years after the F2P mumbo jumbo that ruined it.

I had never played wow before so i bought the xmas deal and got the battlechest, lich, and cata all for 35 bucks on blizz website.

Been playing it for about 3 weeks and dont find it all to bad. Prob because its new to me.

After such a long time in one game leaving it and joining another game that is older like wow makes me feel somewhat lost in that i wasnt with the game when it started and know nothing of the lore.Not many to group with and explore etc. (did not play wc3 back in the day) So im trying to decide if i should stick with wow as it is a fresh game to me?

Or start with a new game as in swtor or rift where i can go along for the ride.

Any advice or comments would be greatly appreciated.

One last thing,  while playing wow it was pretty much solo until i could do them lfg dungeons but then you miss out on the lore because your not questing , and guildies cant mentor nor anyone else to enjoy the lower lvl content and you lvl to quick. so that kinda sucks.

If anyone has played all three games your opinion is more than welcome.

Im thiry five  and was wondering if the community is mature , helpful in swtor as well.

Thanks , typed fast prob typos etc.. oh well..

 

It has the same exact community as WoW. 

I will tell you what I enjoyed from each game, and see if our interest align.

 

I hated WoW's community. I also hated Rifts and SWTOR, because its basically just ex-WoW players. They only care about gear, and making themselves look like idiots in general chat. People are already asking for a GearScore so they can exclude people from groups.

I loved WoW's BGs. Rift's were acceptable. SWTOR's warzones are downright awful. The largest issue currently is level 50s destroy lower levels due to gear imbalance. There should be two tiers. 10-49 and a 50. This is not the only issue. It just feels very shallow.

I love WoW's and Rift's LFG tool. SWTOR has no LFG tool. The fanbois will say the LFG tool is sitting in a zone spamming LFG. This has to be the most disappointing thing for me.

I think SWTOR has the potential to be great. I wish I would have waited like I had planned to. Instead I bought it do to boredom, and probably will not come back even if they do add the things I wish it launched with(LFG tool, 50s only WZ, option other than raiding at 50).