I don't like buying games digitally?  I don't like taking a day to download a game myself which is the case for any MMO I download.

I think everyone who initially wanted the play the game bought it.  

Originally posted by Astralglide

Originally posted by someforumguy

Well I guess that all the ppl that were eagerly waiting for the release of SWTOR, now have their copy. Don't find it odd that sales drop after release.

I think this game has somewhere in the neighborhood of 3 million pre-orders and MMOs still target a certain market. Why wouldn't new subs die off quickly after release? Everybody who was excited about it has bought it. Now they can expect some attrition as people get tired of it or don't like the game, etc. As long as they get more new subs than cancels, it's not "Dying" or even "winding down"

 

Why are you quoting me lol? You are basically saying the same as me about the drop in sales.

I also wasnt saying that SWTOR was dying or something or being in favour or against SWTOR.

Originally posted by shakermaker0

I think this doesn't particularly reflect on the state of Old Republic's success in the UK. Retailers such as GAME and GameStation have been trimming their PC sections for years, to the point where its mostly a shelving space left for Football Manager and The Sims 3: Let's Get New Hats Pack. Boxes just don't seem to shift like they used to, I suppose that's where Steam picks up the slack.

 

This is so very true.

Gamestores in the UK are dedicated more towards Console Games. If it want PC games I have to get Digital versions (Steam or Disti) or Play.com for a boxed version.

Only thing that will tell if the game is a success is that critical 'First Update' followed by 'First Billing Cycle'

and lets face it we are never going to know the results of that first billing cycle

Most Pc will buy/pre order a DVD copy online at places like Amazon, as its often a lot cheaper to buy the DVD there than in the shops, even more so once the game is a couple months old, it's always cheap on Amazon.  Pc gamers don't really walk in shop to buy anymore, either digital or a pre order/buy on line for cheaper.

Hey MMORPG.com can we get some real stories up in here.  I iknow most of your fans ae sandbox fanboys, but can we stop with the crappy stories....

I don't think this is too surprising... the vast majority of people probably pre-ordered it, as well.  Typical for MMOs, now.

Originally posted by jerlot65

Hey MMORPG.com can we get some real stories up in here.  I iknow most of your fans ae sandbox fanboys, but can we stop with the crappy stories....

So having 60% of the stories here being related to SWTOR is not enough?

Originally posted by darwa

Originally posted by gt4980b

I always hear that UK games are cheaper if you buy them in stores vs digital.  So maybe digital isn't as big there.  They do have bandwidth caps so digital isn't as viable an option as in the US

Wrong on both accounts mate. In the majority, that is.

Seem to be kinda similar though I find boxed copies a wee bit cheaper usually. (I'm talking about stuff that is not deep discounted yet). £24.99 seems typical as oposed to £29.99. Hardly a sientific study really but that's how it seems to me. 

....oh and what's MMORPG.com ruynning something that's not all puppy dogs, ponies and rainbows? Dsen't seem like their style at all.

Retail Sales Plummet?

Emotive headline. So what are you really saying Suz?

I bought the box version of SWtor, as I wont buy digital as I prefer to have a physical copy, also I cant justify paying the same price for a digital copy that costs a lot less than a boxed version to produce.  Also the other downside is the length of time in the UK to dowload a game of that size takes far to long.  The UK is so far behind where broadband is, compared to places like the USA.

I'm on Unlimited broadband I pay £40 a month  to get  UP TO 8meg I actually only get 2meg on average the best being around 2.5 meg, but it isnt unlimited as we are hit with a fair usage policy, once I hit a certain download limit they strangle my broadband from 500k - 1meg.  The price does include phone line rental which is compulsary and I also get unlimited weekend phone calls to the UK.  Other phone charges and Tax is added to the base price.

I did phone another company that offers UP TO 20 meg, but as the local exchange is approx 2 km away I would still only recieve UP TO 2 meg bandwidth.  My present IP are ugrading the system so that customers can recieve UP TO 50meg, but I fear rigor mortis would of set in by the time we get that.

Originally posted by Aquazen

Not too suprising, I tend to get everything digital on the pc now-a-days.

my toughts excatly and aswell those who really want (any new game) usually pre orders it digitally todays world.

retail box yes some say its nice to have your finger around box to fiddle around with it but meh its past and

takes useless space unless you collect gameboxes to your library self. most often get left behind on someones attic to get dust when you move around =)

This story is built on the false premise of calculating box sales for a game nowadays. I'm not saying the chart is complete hogwash, just misleading. Firstly, we don't have official numbers of SWTOR sales from EA yet, but we do know that world-wide there are over 1 million registered users. Secondly, and MMORPG don't seem to know this, but EA actually clearly stated that game sales would be capped so they would avoid server stability and population issue around launch. Thirdly, a lot of the box sales are from collectors edition boxes...those again were limited and sold out through retail. Fourthly, most gamers simply go for online purchase now with PC games. All in all... we have to wait for EA to announce some numbers and MMORPGs are long term but we are talking a significant game population for the game.

I do not care, Swtor is only impressive game, bug free, lag free, ... after Wow and Rift. And is incredibly addictive and fun.

WoW cataclysm was nb 1# in the first week UK sales chart

it droped to 38 in the second week and doesn't even show up after that

http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p%2Fsoftware%2Fuk%2Farchive%2Findex_test.jsp&ct=110032&arch=t&lyr=2010&year=2010&week=50

I don't think anyone was saying cataclysm was a failure and wow is going to die based on the week 2 sales chart of a PC game in a console centric country...

Originally posted by minocin

Who buys PC games retail now? That's so 1990's...

 

 

 

 I do, it saves time downloading, maybe its just me but I like to play a game after I buy it.   Expansions Ill download and some games that are hard to find.   

The chart isnt showing that SWTOR is a failure, it is just showing how dead the genra of MMO's is becoming.   Like another poster stated its all console games.   Its definatly the dark ages for PC gaming, but I do see light at the end of the rainbow.   As game engines become more powerful and costs keep on dropping, more people will get into the buisness.  

Originally posted by daltanious

I do not care, Swtor is only impressive game, bug free, lag free, ... after Wow and Rift. And is incredibly addictive and fun.

As much as I have been enjoying the game, I wouldnt go so far as saying its bug free, as to lag, thats down to each induviduals internet set up, I dont suffer any lag whatsoever and my IP isnt exactly the best supplier of bandwidth.

Not getting enough traffic?

Originally posted by BullseyeArc1

Originally posted by minocin

Who buys PC games retail now? That's so 1990's...

 

 

 

 I do, it saves time downloading, maybe its just me but I like to play a game after I buy it.   Expansions Ill download and some games that are hard to find.   

The chart isnt showing that SWTOR is a failure, it is just showing how dead the genra of MMO's is becoming.   Like another poster stated its all console games.   Its definatly the dark ages for PC gaming, but I do see light at the end of the rainbow.   As game engines become more powerful and costs keep on dropping, more people will get into the buisness.  

 

Except that you know...you gotta download things anyway even if you buy the disc.

Most people who wanted the game pre ordered it, no real mystery here.

But I am a bit surprised that it just got up to number 10 on release week, that is not particularly good considering all the commercials they have been running for months.