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1/03/12 11:17:01 PM#41
2nd place is just a nice way to say looser. |
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1/03/12 11:59:47 PM#42
Originally posted by username509 That is easy. EVE is a vastly superior game than MO. Are you not going to answer the question I have asked 2 times now. Here I will ask it one more time. Can you show any evidence to you saying that MO has 20k subscribers?? I find that hard to believe and so does the quarterly financials. |
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1/04/12 12:23:41 AM#43
Originally posted by username509 Here we go again. Get your facts straight. Trammel (UO: Renaissance) increased UO subscription base from around 130k subs to around 250k subs in less than 1.5 years. It kept at about 225k through the next two expansions (Third Dawn and Lord Blackthorn's Revenge), until starting to plummet at 2003 when Age of Shadows hit and the game suddenly become a gear centric PvE race. According to the last released data from 2007, UO had around 100k subs. I would wager it has significantly less today. Most of the shards are ghost towns. All Trammel did was give players the freedom of choice when it came to PvP and take away the helpless cattle from the hands of griefers. It was the best expansion for UO ever.
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1/04/12 2:47:05 AM#44
UO should have been included in the poll, certainly. That being said, if there was a groundswell of support for UO, the "other" option was there.
Originally posted by Yamota Easily. Only 2 games on the poll had a significantly larger population -- EVE (which won) and SWG (the fact that it was in the process of shutting down makes it a hard vote for "sandbox of the year")
Originally posted by Gerolt @Darthturtle & Tom Gore: At last count, UO had about 100,000 subscriptions http://users.telenet.be/mmodata/Charts/Subs-2.png UO's population may have been growing after Felluca, but that is arguably due to a general increasing availability of internet access and specifically UO expanding into new markets (1999 release in korea and japan, 2000 release in Australia) Clearly, many people see Trammel and 2000 as a turning point for UO. Since 2000 also saw the departure of Richard Garriot (creater), Starr Long (producer) and Raph Koster (lead developer), it's hard to argue that 2000 was not a major shift in direction. Trammel may get an unfair share of the criticis, but it was part of the shift from player conflict to "gear-centric PVE race"
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1/04/12 3:42:59 AM#45
Originally posted by username509 You would know, if you took time to actually read the thread. As I stated at the very start, the EvE got those votes from one time influx of EvE fans when the said poll was linked in several of their communities. |
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1/04/12 5:46:21 AM#46
Originally posted by osmunda Except... those "divisions" are usually announced prior to the competition and not made up afterwards. Afterall, while everyone may have felt EvE was the best Sandbox, many of them may have felt that DF was actually the best FANTASY sandbox, but voted for EvE as the poll was not about fantasy sandboxes...
You typically don't make up divisions AFTER a poll. That would be like MMORPG having their "Best of 2011" polls... well, just having one poll for best MMO of 2011 and then after the poll handing our rewards to "Best New MMO 2011" based on which new MMO placed higher.
Since of course, during the "sandboxer" poll other games were added (and you couldn't change your vote) it's really silly. The site is created by an MO fan who originally tried to hide that fact by saying he visited the MO irc ONCE to spam his site but wasn't a player. Now of course we know (from his subsequent admission) he is one of the handful of regular players left. More than half of the game specific "news" article on the site are MO related... How many DF articles have there been? How many EvE articles? No, it's obvious that the site is simply a MO fansite, created by a fan (with or without support from SV). So congrats on placing SECOND in a contest on your own fansite...
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-) |
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1/04/12 7:45:53 AM#47
Originally posted by Slapshot1188
But they have whole articles because a rumored fix patch might happen in MO.
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Check out the new box version of Eve Online! Seriously I hope this site never reports on Eve Online again. The games dull. I can look over spreadsheets all day at work. When I get home I want to bash some things with a polearm. Never trust a screenshot or a youtube video without a version stamp! |
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1/04/12 12:29:03 PM#49
Errr ok and your point is?
Btw check out the new boxed version of Mortal Online. Oh. LOL. |
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1/04/12 3:45:44 PM#50
Originally posted by username509 It's better than the box version of Mortal Online.......... |
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1/04/12 4:48:24 PM#51
Originally posted by GrayGhost79 ROFL... talk about putting your "Big"foot in your mouth...
"I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator Starvault's reponse to criticism related to having a handful of players as the official "test" team for a supposed MMO: "We've just have another 10ish folk kind enough to voulenteer added tot the test team" (SIC) This explains much about the state of the game :-) |
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1/04/12 5:15:21 PM#52
Originally posted by GrayGhost79 Yeah I think bigfoot has been seen more than the fabled box versions of MO. Or I think bigfoot has been seen more than the evidence to any of username's claims on current population. |
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1/09/12 11:43:30 AM#53
Originally posted by username509 Its obvious that you have never PvP'd in EVE Online. It would only occur to a carebear to see the spreadsheet parts of the game first. :P
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