what a messe forum interface... keeps adding lines to my writing... removes edited stuff... i give up....

sigh...

Those numbers are extremely well balanced, I'm extremely impressed and extremely skeptical.

I remember post release Warhammer tried to pull this off, players knew the truth.

those figures are not exactly 'mind boggling' are they?... in fact, they are pretty shit,  they indicate that after the first month, this mmo will probably die like all other mmo's do.

Originally posted by Loke666

Originally posted by thekid1

And what are you going to do when you finished the story?

That is actually a good question and the weakest point of the MMO genre ('cept Eve).

You usually raid for gear until the next expansion comes out and I think TOR will be the same. Sure, they havn't added many raids yet but few newly released games do that, there will probably be some patched in within the next few months.

Will it be epic fun? Hardly but that never stopped any other MMOs and players seems to accept it in the genre as whole.

In fact much of the whine on GW2 is the lack of a raiding endgame.

in a way, you could argue that a game on sub mode should never have an endgame. because, technically, they're spending all their money on development. surely they could release a few more levels of exciting quests each month...

seriously, though, i think the industry needs some lateral thinking in regard to what to do for "endgame" that's a little more interesting than grinding for uberloot in what is essentially a boring and often vindictive atmosphere.

Originally posted by khaixiii

Originally posted by Dyner

Sum Up: I should work for my rewards; my alts shouldn't.

I respectfully disagree with the latter part.  In my opinion, one should work  for any reward, regardless of main or alt.

 

Why should people be forced to play through the game (story-wise) multiple times. I don't want to speak for all, but for me the whole point of Alts isn't to re-experience the story; it's to try out the abilities.

Heck, I'd even be willing to re-experience the story from say a Trooper's POV if not for the underlieing fact that I'm being made to do quests. Seriously, how well do "you" (general 'you') think WoW would have done if for every spell, for every profession you had to do a quest in order to get it.

RIFT had a decent balance with required quest and Time-to-Complete. Want another soul? Go pick up the quest from the corresponding trainer, find a rift, close said rift, summon soul. Takes at most 10min to do; with most of that spent looking for a rift. And that was my first run (in beta I might add).

SWTOR, first run (again Beta) 2hrs into it as a Jedi Knight and I was still that..a Knight; took me ~3hrs just to get my AC, which is fine because I was listening to all the quests and having fun. Second run through (Live), I was ~1hr in and I was a Guardian; 'space barred + 1' through all the quest; skipped all the side quests and left Tython at lvl 9 and was forced to quest to get the remaining XP and get to lvl 10.

Okay, that was a slight rant, my point is it's no fun doing a quest when I know I have to; that I'm being forced to.

Little tidbit: My WoW alts were all sub-50. They only began to truly level when BGs started awarding XP; I HATE "RE-QUESTING". Do it once and then I don't care to repeat it.

Also,  note this rant ONLY pertains to Companion #1 and AC. Your weapon (light saber for Jedi) and remaining companions should be quest-required. And potentially your first ship if they add Space-based PVP.

Those are easy bloated numbers to post. Anyone ever play CoD: Black Ops or anything like that? Loading screens will post the same type of numbers (how many bullets fired, people killed etc). It's the raw transaction logs, easy numbers to bloat and promote.

Everyone wants to know how many people are logged in playing, the server status, etc

Those are the real numbers. When/where can we see those? I am neither a hater or a fanboi, I simply just want to know.

Star Wars virtual holocaust.

from the press release "Over a million gamers worldwide celebrated the holidays in front of their PCs with lightsabers".  I read that as over a million subs.

Those are not actually really good numbers to report but the npc killed one made me lol, they should kill more npcs

durr hurr those big collective numbers must mean the game is worth spending 15 dollars. Guess I buy it now. Derp

Yep... them's the signs of a doomed game...

Originally posted by Lobotomist

10 million  hours of voicover - skipped

:P

 

I do not skip through the VO's even if I have seen them a few times. I get groups screaming at me but I don't really care. They will wait till I have seen it all, again.

Originally posted by sgel

Why don't they say how many players are playing?

 

indeed

World Wide that really isn't very much. 1 million

Originally posted by Olgark

Originally posted by Lobotomist

10 million  hours of voicover - skipped

:P

 

I do not skip through the VO's even if I have seen them a few times. I get groups screaming at me but I don't really care. They will wait till I have seen it all, again.

 I do, but I feel a little guilty doing it, because that is supposed to be the big selling point, but when you play alts, most the quests are ones you have done before, so it becomes a little like nap time to watch it again for me....When I say I feel guilty, I just feel like I am not playing it 'right'...But I can't stop myself.

Originally posted by AsatrusFire

World Wide that really isn't very much. 1 million

 

WoW (to use a popular example) has the most players still and it's around what? ~10 mil? That isn't very much either world wide. I mean, how many people are there? nearly 7 billion? For an MMO 1 million players is decent. Hell, back in the day getting 250,000 (or so) players on EQ or DAOC was an amazing feat. Of course though today more people have sufficient internet/internet speeds and suitable computers to play MMO's, but still most people (the vast, vast, VAST majority of people) don't.

Originally posted by Shivam

Originally posted by sgel

Why don't they say how many players are playing?

Why people find something to complain even in light hearted posts?

B/c ppl complaing whenever f2p game releases the same kind of "info" to show how succesfull it is.

I would love to see weekly updates, with just those categories. But that wont happen because those numbers would fall drastically.

I am really enjoying this game. I had a MMO hiatus for about three years before this one came out. I was just bored with the regular way MMO's did things. SWTOR really spiced things up with VO and Companions. Does it need some bug fixes and some upgrades? Yes But, is it still a LOT of fun? YES!

so nobody cares space combat, yeah sith outnumber jedis...personally i enjoyed playing more the  BH/trooper than the  JK/SW  i still have to  try smuggler/IA and SI/JC

btw  what is the short version for   the name/class  smuggler?