Originally posted by vtravi

I am only playing SWTOR cause I hate what Turbine did with Lotro. The ROI expansion was the most unfun MMO experiance I have had (and I love LOtro). So that got me looking around at other games that is when I started Swtor. I am really enjoying myself. For the first time I am taking it slow while leveling. I am not looking forward to endgame cause it is the same hamster wheel that Lotro and WoW have become. I hope by the time I get to 50 there will be something else to keep me busy other than doing the same instances I was doing while leveling.

 

Also I hear alot of people say it is a WoW clone, but you talk to people playing, almost all the complaints are that it isn't like WoW enough, lol. In all honesty it is much more like Lotro Shadows of Angmar- Tons of group quests,similar crafting, story driven. Non tanks don't get kill in 3 shots  (always drove me nuts about WoW, if the tank lost agro for 3 seconds it could be a wipe).

Of course it is a thempark all the way and for most people that means it is a Wow clone along with AoC, Rift, Aion, EQ2, Lotro

I agree I definitely feel its based more on the LotRO mold than WoW it just reminds so much of LotRO for the things you mention. 

Which is first best?

I settled for this (for now) because it is a great game and I am having loads of fun.

You know, if there was a first best and this was second best to that then I would play both because this second best is pretty damn good and so that first best wouldn't be first enough to stop me playing such a good second. Please tell me what that first best is so that I can actually make a comparative judgment.

Regards

Melmoth

I am playing with some people that I played SWG with, that I havent played anything else with since then. 

It is what I thought it would be so far, its not really my thing.  I like some of the ideas, but like anytime something is newer, the new ideas are screwed up, for the most part.

I am looking forward to TSW/GW2 in the near term.

I will get my money out of swtor, but I cant see it as a long term game atm, it plays kind of like a RPG that you can invite a few friends to play with you for the most part.  It also is very railed, to its detriment, atleast as far as I have seen, its very hard to sync up and quest/play with other people.  I am like 33-34, so I mean I have been waiting for it to 'open up', like I was told, but I haven't seen it yet. 

I won't sit around killing the game though, as I said, its what I thought it was.

No settling here. SWTOR is the best MMO on the market, and it s just getting started. GW2 looks decent, but I m not getting too excited over it yet. This website is one of the, if not the worst place to find out info on games. I just see in game and how people love the game. To each their own, but I think it s one quality MMO.

Swtor will be fun for some people for the first month or two but after that the numbers will start to drop.the game doesn't offer enough to keep players playing longterm. its just another themepark raiding mmo with some pvp tacked on.been there done that too many times.

Originally posted by ktanner3
I don't accept the premise of the question. I didn't "settle" for second best by enjoying TOR. What is with some of you people anyway? Is it really hard to grasp that people are enjoying this?

Yeah, agreed. WTF is it with some people on these boards just not wanting to accept that there are people who think TOR is fun? Not everyone needs the second coming of Sandbox Nirvana to be happy.

I stopped playing MMOs when I started graduate school back in August 2010 because I knew I wouldn't have time for them. It was either my MBA or an MMO.  Now that my degree is in sight (May 2012 -- woo!) I'm gaming again. If TOR wasn't fun, and if I didn't enjoy it, I would have quit playing it back during the beta when all it would have cost me is time. Instead, I pre-ordered and bought the game, and I'm enjoying it. My friends and guildmates are playing and we were up late last night running heroics and having fun. 

Why is that such a problem for people? Why do they have to act like TOR is "settling" for something? For some of us, it's a legitimately fun game. We enjoy it. Is that really such a sin?

I wasn't expecting much as far as an mmo, nor do I from any new launch since 2005.  I bought it for the story and have been pleased with my purchase.  I was never a Star Wars fan and I can't recal having watched one of the movies all the way through, but I'm enjoying it anyway.  In the end that is all that matters to me.  I don't care if it is an rpg, strat, fps, or mmorpg, as long as I am having fun and feel it was worth the money I spent, I am happy.

**An unfortunate side note.  My fiance and I both dumped our money into the CE of the new EQ2 expansion, played it for a week and quit.  That wasn't a purchase I ended up being happy with.  SWToR at least helped keep my mind off of the money wasted, until now.

I think its a great game... will keep me entertained for quite awhile

The game is not fun.

Yeah, Im bored and im trying to buy it. But it seems that EA is doing everything in its power to try and stop me..

Originally posted by ktanner3
I don't accept the premise of the question. I didn't "settle" for second best by enjoying TOR. What is with some of you people anyway? Is it really hard to grasp that people are enjoying this?

I would say that the question is obviously not targeted at you, or people that feel TOR is the best Mmorpg out there.  

I was pretty sure "KOTOR 3 with multiplayer" would be worth my 50 bucks.

And technical issues (and oh are there a-plenty, game is performing horrible and can't be adjusted, see official tech boards for reference) aside, I knew full well that PvP would be a mediocre sidekick and PvE a rails on rails game with no sandbox-elements in it whatsoever.

But you know, it's a nice filler...

Will it succeed, most definitely, Star Wars after all, will claim the "bestestest game evar created"-award, probably not.

And in fact, from what I hear atm, there are lots of people ingame bridging to XY, be it SW or GW2.

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Originally posted by Mannish

The game is loads of fun.

FIFY.

Originally posted by VoIgore

Very good OP and interesting question, i guess the point contains more truth than some would like to admit.

I don't agree to the "settle" part however, in a sense that in 2-3 month we will see that alot of players in fact do not settle with the second best, but move on.

The truth can't speak for others who are actually enjoying this game.

It will be great to see GW2 and other MMO release soon, so folks can stop fucking squabbly the very POINT THEY think is the reason people are playing this game. If anything this is a pretty naive statement.

Do you have Super Power Telepathy?

I didn't settle for something I don't believe in. SWTOR is a solid game built on a foundation which has been passed on as heritage from MMORPG to MMORPG over the last years: in that sense SWTOR is the pinnacle of an evolution that has been going on for year and years.

Why fix something that is not broken? A lot of people are liking the game and even though it has strong similarities with previous MMORPGs it does not mean that it isn't fun: it is actually very fun to play and that is what counts. Far from everyone is snobbish enough to always want something "new" and "paradigm-shifting": it is like those modern art "lovers", the grand majority of the average Joes do not agree and do not find modern art to be any good at all. 

A similar argument goes with movies and books. There is no need to be innovative really: that's just the epitome of snobbishness. The Joes of these world, the hard-working ones that built up our society, have already chosen to buy, watch and read movies and books that appeal to them. The grand majority does not read world literature and they do not watch movies depending on what is the most intellectual and aesthetically superior; they choose instead to do what they find fun and they are not snobs. 

So in short: no I did not settle for something subpar, I settled for the pinnacle of MMORPG evolution.

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

"Did you settle for something second best because you're bored with the current state of MMOs in general, and you wanted something new & since it was 'Star Wars' you hopped right on it?"

 

 

So you are asking if we are playing SWTOR even though its not our dream game?

Sure we are.

Are you married to your wife even though shes not Megan Fox? 

I'm confused by your point...  as I'm betting you are by mine.

Originally posted by nerovipus32

Swtor will be fun for some people for the first month or two but after that the numbers will start to drop.the game doesn't offer enough to keep players playing longterm. its just another themepark raiding mmo with some pvp tacked on.been there done that too many times.

SO are you saying it has the retention of a sandbox?