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12/30/11 3:21:30 PM#41
Originally posted by nerovipus32

it's the most anti-social mmo i have played to date everyone is too busy in their own little story world, the only interaction between players is people spamming lfg in general chat. when in a group players are too impatient to wait for the story they just want to rush and get their phat lewts...mmo's are for a different breed of gamer these days. The pvp is a stun and crowd controlfest, i cant fight anyone in pvp without getting punted into the stars, maybe thats what they mean by star wars.

mm what server are YOU on?  


Sometimes PvP is a major stun and CC fest... the resolve bar is a great addition,  but completely useless if you don't have a full team backing you,  or you aren't fighting someone 1 v 1.   Usually when in a match, nobody wants to be the first to stick their neck out as that person will die.. quickly...      ... very.. very .. quickly..

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12/30/11 5:57:44 PM#42

swtor is a good game... i like it personally. all this crankiness about it .. it sounds like its more the mmorpg community thats jaded. nothing impresses them or pleases them short of  dath jadus personally showing up on their doorstep to invite them to live action role place. 

the mmo community is mostly over 35 and are underwhelmed by everything. maybe its not the bad games.. maybe the community needs to lighten up and get back to basics (my little bar that i own in florida)


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12/30/11 6:40:43 PM#43

My only complaint? Tell me about the combat too:)

Is it closer to the story feelings? Or is it closer to the UI feelings?



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12/30/11 11:29:50 PM#44

The game is not even a month old and desperation has already set in to keep people playing the game. Yep, the mass exodus will begin sooner than most of us expect it to happen. We should be condeming bad mmos not endorsing them if you really want the mmo genre to be a better place for gamers.


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12/31/11 12:31:11 AM#45
Originally posted by DerWotan

Another big publisher MMOG "magically changes the viewpoint from a former (longtime) skeptic. One can only imagine how much hype will do for the next few weeks, €A at it again..

My thoughts exactly.  Not to mention saying that nothing even showed up on her radar since WAR.  Didn't even play Rift?  So where's your credibility in the industry?  I wish if MMORPG were going to accept buy outs they would at least insult our intelligence less by trying to cover it up instead of playing it off in a blantantly obvious way.

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MMO sandbox games are as exciting as watching paint dry.

12/31/11 1:25:45 AM#46
Originally posted by Mephster

The game is not even a month old and desperation has already set in to keep people playing the game. Yep, the mass exodus will begin sooner than most of us expect it to happen. We should be condeming bad mmos not endorsing them if you really want the mmo genre to be a better place for gamers.

If you had a long time account, I would make a perma ban bet with you that box sales will continue to do well.


The game is 11 days old now, and the servers continue to fill up. Europe servers are as crowded as the NA ones are. NA is down to like 10 servers now that still are light, with a shit ton of them at red status each night.


It must suck to hate something so much, and you are only left with spreading lies about it. I cannot wait to hear the press once folks get back from the holiday vacation.


BTW nice write up OP. It is refreshing to see instead of the blatant trolling in the TOR forums.

Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.


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12/31/11 3:00:19 AM#47
Been MMOing for 13 years and I have never had so much fun

=-D Only on a forum can optimism be called the bad thing and pessimism is the good thing =-D


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12/31/11 3:34:18 AM#48

Originally posted by Mephster

The game is not even a month old and desperation has already set in to keep people playing the game. Yep, the mass exodus will begin sooner than most of us expect it to happen. We should be condeming bad mmos not endorsing them if you really want the mmo genre to be a better place for gamers.


Next week it will go f2p for sure... Ty for the big lol.

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12/31/11 8:26:34 AM#49

  Glad you're having fun with it!  I am as well!


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12/31/11 9:23:27 AM#50

Only thing I differ with in the OPs article is that I was looking forward to this game. I am having a good time - which is what I paid for.


What I have noticed on my occasional foray into the forums are the repeated attacks from a group of posters who seem to go from forum to forum, bashing - well - everything and everybody. A group of bitter and unhappy followers of the MMO industry. Games, Devs, companies and other players, all come under grim attack as naive, stupid, cattle, incompetant, ignorant - geeze - pick the negative and they will spew it out. From obscene to quasi-erudite to armchair perfection, they systematically dismantle and attack OTHER PLAYERS FUN.


Thanks for your perspective OP, it was a nice change of pace. We both are enjoying SWTOR as a new and fun MMO. For those who are unhappy (shrug) not much anyone can do to help you. You surely have a right to your opinion and to post that opinion. If you do not see a lot more positive posts then you might consider that we are playing the game and not bothering with forums. Why am I here you might ask? I am just about to open up my comp and install my new video card.


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No man controls my destiny... especially not one who attacks downwind and stinks of garlic.

12/31/11 9:41:29 AM#51

I will be honest as well, I am playing SWTOR as of a  few days ago, and I find myself wanting to log in and play some more.  I was highly skeptical of the game after playing in the beta.  However in the beta, I knew I only had a couple days to play, so I just rushed through everything.  Now I am taking a slower approach, letting my story play out, much more enjoyable.  I am kind of approaching it as KOTOR 3 that has some people running around in it.  I don't have any real life friends that are playing it, so I am solo atm.  Not sure how long I will play it, at least until GW2 comes out, as I will be trying that as well. 


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12/31/11 10:40:25 AM#52

Another interesting article, Isabelle.  I lolled at "pseudo-Medieval plinkety-plink" to describe the music of most fantasy mmo's.

I've not felt any inclination so far to try the game mainly because despite enjoying the Star Wars movies when they first came out, and having a period of intense reading of science fiction in my teens and young adulthood (which is not to suggest I've "outgrown" it before anyone starts), for some reason sci fi games don't appeal to me.  Can't put my finger on why exactly, but there it is.

Plus, I am currently enjoying playing WoW after a 2 year break.  Been back for 3 months and can't believe how much I'm enjoying myself.  I'm curious about TOR, and enjoy reading well-written articles about it, but currently not curious enough to try the game itself.


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12/31/11 11:11:20 AM#53

Originally posted by Candomble

Originally posted by maskedweasel

I won't be playing SWTOR for 10 years... or 5 years.. or even maybe 1 year. I'll be playing it when I want to play it, nothing more.  Theres a lot out, and a lot on the horizon that I'm looking forward to playing,  including expansionable content for SWTOR that will likely bring me back.  


I don't see a game ever holding my attention for an extended period of time... consecutively,  but if I like the game, I'll return.


+1. In the end what matters is that we have fun. 3 months, 3 years, who cares?



To each her own, but this trend bothers me.  I'm looking for a game to settle in with for a few years.  I'm not looking for a bunch of games to hop to and from (buying the box each time one launches, then resubbing each time I feel like playing again, plus possibly buying whatever expansions are out).  It's too much money for too little enjoyment.  I got solid entertainment value out of Anarchy Online, and even, let's be honest, out of WoW.  While I love the idea of having more MMOs to choose from, the new trend in MMOs (buy it, play a month or at most two, then move on) provides little value or entertainment.


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12/31/11 11:14:40 AM#54

no tiered pvp in warzones, no xp for kills on ilum, thats just total fail and i can't believe a dev sat down and approved this crap. just look at the videos on youtube of rival factions ignoring each other to do dailies on the open pvp world..complete and utter failure.


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12/31/11 2:04:03 PM#55
Originally posted by Isabelle Parsley

The UI is… less than stellar, and I’m being kind, but it mostly works and it’s not bad enough to put me off the game – and considering what a UI nerd I am, that’s saying something.

Without any disrespect, smply put the UI sucks.

For someone supposed to be a UI nerd I'm suprised you dare saying it works. It doesn't.

Even AoC UI is better and that's saying something.


Here's a few thing I noted, the first 3 being the biggest issues.

  • No scaling
  • Impossible to move frames around
  • Suboptimal quickslots management
  • No target of target
  • No transfer of target (I.e: target tank = heal tank + DPS target of tank)
  • No mouse over healing
  • Can't split stacks of items
  • Can't rearrange companions skills in its own quickslot
  • UI does not remembers you disabled quest tracker
  • Can't preview weapons
  • Launcher does not default the focus to the input boxes (user name if blank or password)
  • No codex toggle hotkey
  • No nameplates hotkey
  • No hide/show helmet hotkey
  • Can't select multiples entries on the planetary map (ie no vendor and trainer display at once)
  • Map borders, legend and mission trackers are still visible when faded out
  • On sub maps no indication whatsoever where you come from (exit)
  • CRTL left/right does not goes to the next word in chat
  • No scroll bar in the chat bar
  • No friend list player notes
  • Need 3 buttons hits to equip an item to a companion
  • Can't disable smart camera
  • No camera zoom speed slider
  • Can't zoom to do a closeup on the character due to a too big stepping
  • No camera preset bindings
  • Right clicking on items does not stack them in the bank automatically
  • Items in the Inventory does not display vendor prices
  • Can't queue crafting mission before or after items crafting
  • Can't queue missions
  • Total owned credits not displayed in crafting mission panel
  • Switching companions resets the scroll position of the crafting windows to the top
  • Crafting Missions  pops-up automatically closes all open windows
  • Can't lock items in the inventory to prevent selling them
  • Can't open companion and character inventory at the same time
  • Can't dock chat bar at the bottom due to the companion UI
  • Can't move Buffs out of the health bars
  • Can't hide characters and/or target round pic frame
  • Can't move/manage quickslots bars
  • Can't rebind CRTL to things like ventrilo due to conflict with non remappable functions
  • Can't browse through already known maps unless you are in the very same area.
  • No mouse look toggle
  • Can't hide the default system hot bar (@top)
  • Can't parse quests links in chat
So can we agree on the UI is bad, really bad?

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12/31/11 3:03:16 PM#56

Yeah we've kind of noticed the MMORPG staff went nuts about SWTOR. That's pretty much all they bother to write about at the moment, if they find the time from playing.




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1/01/12 3:04:09 AM#57

Deewe, you can split stacks - shift-click and drag. But yeah, lots of room for improvement in the UI. The crafting mission pop-up issue ground my gears all through beta. I don;t know why it's still there.

I can appreciate some people being irritated by the fact that most of the staff here seem to love SWTOR, but give Isabelle her due, her articles are always well-written and cover both the rough and the smooth.

One correction though, there are only 8 storylines (saying *only* seems silly but anyway...) one per base class not one per advanced class.

My altoholism kicked in once I secured my legacy name. I'm now running a BH and Smuggler alongside my main. I only ever got to mid act 2 on the Republic side, plenty new for me to see there.

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1/01/12 3:03:45 PM#58

I find it odd that you would include this line:

"And while I’m not advising anyone whether to buy the game or not ..."

In the same article as these two lines:

"Besides – you shouldn’t be lambasting, you should be playing SW:TOR."

"... I definitely recommend giving it a try"

You're very clearly advising and suggesting people play the game, yet claiming you're not.





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1/01/12 3:24:12 PM#59

What a great sequel to the KOTOR franchise!

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1/01/12 4:54:36 PM#60

Originally posted by Deewe


So can we agree on the UI is bad, really bad?


Ya, its pretty lame and sometimes frustrating, but I'm still enjoying the game :)

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