These people are some of the riches on the planet while others worry about how they will get food to eat or where they will be sleeping tonight..... These people can burn hundred dollar bills because they are worth tens of millions. And they want to charge the guy that downloads music because they are losing the money he would not give them anyways?  If you support these acts you are no better than the rich bastards that try to rain down these stupid laws to take away any freedom   you have left.

When you steal something you take an object from someone for yourself. That person loses said object and no longer has access to it.

When you download something from a torrent you share an object with other people.  Those people still have access to that object and every right to it.

There will never come a time where everyone pirates all goods and  companies no longer able to make profit.  If such a day ever did come then I could support such actions as SOPA, but as long as those executives continue to make millions of dollars I really and honestly could care less about what they want to bitch and moan about.

Originally posted by mcburly

someone needs to take these dumb hackers down. these companies have every right to not wanting people to pirate software. If someone doesnt feel the item is worth paying for then dont pay for it. pirating is theft no matter how you slice it. This group anonymous's cause is ridiculous and they are just trying to show how "powerful" they are because they are good with a computer.

Go read what SOPA will actually do and not what the op claims.

Because I don't believe you understand fully.

All the following companies are against SOPA. I wonder why...

• AOL
• Boing Boing
• Creative Commons
• Daily Kos
• Disqus
• eBay
• Etsy
• Facebook
• foursquare
• Google
• Grooveshark
• Hype Machine
• Kickstarter
• Kaspersky
• LinkedIn
• Mozilla
• MetaFilter
• OpenDNS
• O’Reilly Radar
• Reddit
• Techdirt
• PayPal
• Torrentfreak
• Tumblr
• Twitter
• TechCrunch
• Yahoo!
• Zynga
• Scribd
• YCombinator
• Wikipedia
• Reddit
• Namecheap
• Petzel
• ICanHasCheezburger
• Quora
• Embedly
• MediaTemple
• CloudFlare
• StackExchange (Stack Overflow)
• Github
• Linode
• Hostgator
• Square
• The Huffington Post
• Craigslist
• ESET
• 4chan

between hackers and SOPA...if I have to pick a side...it won't be SOPA.

besides, Robin Hood was a great movie. well some of them were. Not "men in tights".

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Originally posted by mcburly

Originally posted by Mundus

@mcburly The problem is not what SOPA is allegedly aimed at (stopping piracy), but what it actually does.

You might want to read this: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/toms-hardware-sopa-Stop-Online-Piracy-Act-PROTECT-IP-Senate,14393.html

yet if pirating hasnt gotten out of control like it has then its possible this act wouldnt be an issue. This can be argued many different ways and there are areas of that act I dont agree with. As someone who just wants to enjoy the games I play Im tired of these hacker groups pulling this crap. That last attack on sony effected me as I wasnt able to game. In no way was I blaming Sony on that, im blaming anon. plain and simple. If they really have a "righteous cause" then they better make sure it only targets the ones they intend it to.

 

im against pirating and thats all. As someone who works within this industry, I am the one who gets screwed over by products getting stolen, pirated instead of being purchased. Its definitely not the big wigs. All they do is cut payroll if business is getting slow. Most if not all are pretty well off so if they so happen to go out of business, they will be fine.

Cause and effect...... 

Would piracy be as bad if these companies refrained from going all out greedy? 

Would piracy be as bad if marketing and advertising felll under strict guidelines keeping them honest?

Whats sad is the fact that I've actually at times been forced to pirate games I have already purchased due to anti piracy measures a company uses.

Originally posted by tawess

But they are not doing it to them... It is our privacy they are invading... See the problem... Or is it you who refuse to see the problem in this kind of action...

Your data gets stolen anyway. But when evil hackers steal it to sell it, they won't tell anyone about it. Of course, the company won't tell anyone either, because it would hurt their reputation. So most likely, you wouldn't even know that your data got stolen.

I don't see why companies like Sony wouldn't want websites like Thepiratebay to go down, and why companies like Miramax wouldn't want streaming websites to go down either.

I don't get it... just buy it if you like it, and boycott the products you don't like. Do go like "aww, I won't be able to stream it anymore!".

The day they won't sell anymore copies cause it's too expensive they'll lower the price or stop making it.

To Puremallace: Trion doesn't suport the SOPA because their game sells subscriptions. If you want all the game to be subscription based one day, don't suport the sopa.

Originally posted by lunatis

To Puremallace: Trion doesn't suport the SOPA because their game sells subscriptions. If you want all the game to be subscription based one day, don't suport the sopa.

You want to know what SOPA is really??

http://wikileaks.org/

^ When this site leaked confidential documents about various....interesting things the United States was doing the Department of Justice could not do a damn thing because it was foreign based.

Remember those Getmo videos of guards doing various things? Those were leaked on foreign sites. This law says that the US can have those sites taken down and not able to be viewed by any of us.

Media is all over this because they are convinced this will do anything against torrents, but there IS NO CHANCE this law will do a single thing about that. It will just go further underground and instead of going to Piratebay we will have to goto a Chinese website the US would never touch.

They will attack Sony again? Wow they pick sony out of countless others they must be xbox lovers.

Stephen Colbert explains it

http://boingboing.net/2011/12/02/stephen-colbert-explains-sopa.html

Originally posted by Scypheroth

 

P.S XBOX FTW atleast we got a decent solid online server that is laggy and unstable as shit.

lol, nice try.

PS3>360, never had lag issues on my ps3, AND i dont have to pay to have access to it then still get ads shoved down my throat.

ehhh from everyone i talked to prob over 100 ppl say the PSN suxs laggt slow and unstable...wich hence alot of my friends and co workers that i talked to switched over to XBOX...also friend of mine said he played PS3 since launch and his PS went down got  a xbox and the change was liek night to day was smoother and more stable...also said the players were alot more skilled and better than the ones on the PS network...

Originally posted by Lexin

They will attack Sony again? Wow they pick sony out of countless others they must be xbox lovers.

Microsoft is against the SOPA bill. So they shouldnt have any quarl with M$

I am against piracy of illeagle material, but sopa is egregious. Essentially in a nut shell it could shut down any and every site that allows users to upload something. Like facebook and youtube.

EX: If you took a picture of yourself with a copyrighted movie poster behind you in the background, under SOPA the site you uploaded the picture to could be shut down and held responsible for you uploading the picuture. So basically no site will ever allow user uploaded material of any kind.

I have no idea how this bill passed in the senate, because anyone who voted on this bill is not representing the people, they are representing big buisness.

I know this site does not allow political material, for the most part I agree with that rule, but I plead with MMORPG.com to change the rule, and allow for SOPA discussions. It needs changed for something like SOPA in which involves all of us here on the internet. More People need to know about sopa its getting 0 press time on TV because thats what the big buisness wants, they are trying to ninja pass it. They have already Ninja'ed it through the senate, hopefully it gets shot down somewhere before it gets signed in to law.

I hate'd anonymous, not so much anymore. But I agree with thier tactic. Attack big buisness get the word on SOPA out. Its an attrotious bill thats name disguises it as something good. Stop online piracy act, Sounds good when people hear it. But how it does it will destroy the internet as we know it.

Originally posted by Scypheroth

ehhh from everyone i talked to prob over 100 ppl say the PSN suxs laggt slow and unstable...wich hence alot of my friends and co workers that i talked to switched over to XBOX...also friend of mine said he played PS3 since launch and his PS went down got  a xbox and the change was liek night to day was smoother and more stable...also said the players were alot more skilled and better than the ones on the PS network...

So in other words you were talking out your ***, big shocker.

Originally posted by DLangley

Hey guys! Just a reminder, let's avoid political discussion. Thanks!

Silence is the loudest, most enthusiastic form of support that anyone can express in the face of tyranny.

Originally posted by warmaster670

Originally posted by Scypheroth

 

P.S XBOX FTW atleast we got a decent solid online server that is laggy and unstable as shit.

lol, nice try.

 

PS3>360, never had lag issues on my ps3, AND i dont have to pay to have access to it then still get ads shoved down my throat.

Exactly never had any issue with lag or it being unstable. What Xbox 360 has ads?

Originally posted by JayBirdz

Anonymous are twits.  While I dislike SOPA,  I dislike Anonymous even more at this point.  Dumping innocent peoples information shouldn't be praised.  Doesn't the concept go completely against what Anonymous values.  "We're Anonymous! Though we don't mind dumping your info for the world to see and use!." 

 

Look forward to seeing some more tools vanned.  Lulzsec thought they were invincible (Splinter group of Anonymous).  Majority of the key people have been picked up by the party wagons already.  Even Topiary who was on some no name remote island in the middle of no where.  Granted they haven't bagged Sabu yet. Kind of funny these guys think that their VPN's will keep them safe.  "Hello VPN company either give us what we want or you'll be charged too!" 
 

my feelings exactly...i would almost rather live in a police state than a state of anarchy.