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General Discussion  » Everyone is raving about Guild Wars 2, yet I just don't see it...

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  Loke666

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12/29/11 3:17:22 AM#81
Originally posted by SoulSurfer

They took some artists from Wizards of the Coast to help them with the art-style.  I don't know about you, but I used to love the art on magic the gathering card games.  This is a deal maker.

I will buy this game, and upgrade my GFX card and monitor for it, seeing how the game pays for itself, I don't mind dumping that saved money into my rig.  Another deal maker.

I wonder how many people will leave Aion for this game?  That is a serious question.  =)

Agreed, Magic use to have some really great artists on it. For some reason did they not have as good artists for the P&P RPGs...

I like the art style as well, with some excpetions (Asuras mainly). But taste differs.

As for AION, that is hard to say. The games aren't that much alike.

  jayarte

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12/29/11 9:04:57 AM#82
Originally posted by tixylix

It just looks like a very generic MMO, the art doesn't stick out at all and I have no interest in the story because the story of the first one was so bad and generic. Can some one please explain to me why people are getting so excited for it? Just looks like another Asian MMO like how everyone was excited for Aion or something and yet it just looked generic again.

The best summary of everything which has had me excited about this game since I first heard rumours about it 4 years ago is in this video which serves as a manifesto, or mission statement by some members of the team making GW2:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35BPhT-KI1E

 

Apologies if anyone has already posted this and I missed it. 

 

My son is very burnt-out on mmo's in general and fantasy in particular, but when he watched this with me, he was so enthused he decided he just had to play GW2 when it releases.  See what you think after watching the video,  tixylix, you might be pleasantly surprised.

  TUX426

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12/29/11 3:30:06 PM#83
Originally posted by tixylix

The art style just looks like a generic Asian MMO to me and I just cannot get excited for how it looks. I have no idea how the world is built, I've played Guild Wars but that wasn't an MMO but I've heard this time round it is a proper world? I dunno but from everything I've seen it looks like it does the AoC thing where everything is in the skybox and the actual world is pretty enclosed and linear. 

It just looks like a very generic MMO, the art doesn't stick out at all and I have no interest in the story because the story of the first one was so bad and generic. Can some one please explain to me why people are getting so excited for it? Just looks like another Asian MMO like how everyone was excited for Aion or something and yet it just looked generic again.

 

 

I agree 100%.

Nothing we haven't seen in 1000 MMOs in the past few years. Asian, goofy, unrealistic and ANOTHER f**king sword game. How many games like this does the market really need?

  User Deleted
12/29/11 4:20:45 PM#84
Originally posted by TUX426
Originally posted by tixylix

The art style just looks like a generic Asian MMO to me and I just cannot get excited for how it looks. I have no idea how the world is built, I've played Guild Wars but that wasn't an MMO but I've heard this time round it is a proper world? I dunno but from everything I've seen it looks like it does the AoC thing where everything is in the skybox and the actual world is pretty enclosed and linear. 

It just looks like a very generic MMO, the art doesn't stick out at all and I have no interest in the story because the story of the first one was so bad and generic. Can some one please explain to me why people are getting so excited for it? Just looks like another Asian MMO like how everyone was excited for Aion or something and yet it just looked generic again.

I agree 100%.

Nothing we haven't seen in 1000 MMOs in the past few years. Asian, goofy, unrealistic and ANOTHER f**king sword game. How many games like this does the market really need?

I already replied to the OP, but I just have to keep his quote in the reply here again just because of the similarities between the two of you.  You just can't go by looks, or just say that it's fantasy and dismiss it.  Or at least I hope you won't.

There is a lot (A LOT) of innovation to GW2's mechanics.  To you it might look like 1000 other MMOs, but it will play like none of them.

  fony

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12/29/11 4:24:09 PM#85

lmao, you gotta learn not to bother.

  caremuchless

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12/29/11 4:29:42 PM#86
Originally posted by fony

lmao, you gotta learn not to bother.

I agree 100%

  User Deleted
12/29/11 4:33:07 PM#87
Originally posted by caremuchless
Originally posted by fony

lmao, you gotta learn not to bother.

I agree 100%

At least it was much shorter than a typical post from me.  Baby steps...

  Kityn

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Joined: 3/24/05
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12/29/11 4:54:14 PM#88
Originally posted by TUX426
Originally posted by tixylix

The art style just looks like a generic Asian MMO to me and I just cannot get excited for how it looks. I have no idea how the world is built, I've played Guild Wars but that wasn't an MMO but I've heard this time round it is a proper world? I dunno but from everything I've seen it looks like it does the AoC thing where everything is in the skybox and the actual world is pretty enclosed and linear. 

It just looks like a very generic MMO, the art doesn't stick out at all and I have no interest in the story because the story of the first one was so bad and generic. Can some one please explain to me why people are getting so excited for it? Just looks like another Asian MMO like how everyone was excited for Aion or something and yet it just looked generic again.

 

 

I agree 100%.

Nothing we haven't seen in 1000 MMOs in the past few years. Asian, goofy, unrealistic and ANOTHER f**king sword game. How many games like this does the market really need?

 

 

It isn't asian looking, Your opinion if it looks goofy, GW2 was never suppose to look or act realistic, what the market needs is a few great sword and sorcery MMOs. The other 1000s are mostly crap so they do not count.

  JoeyMMO

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Joined: 10/09/11
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To busy playing GW2 to post much around here... *shrug*

12/29/11 5:00:17 PM#89
Originally posted by TUX426
*snip*
I agree 100%.

Nothing we haven't seen in 1000 MMOs in the past few years. Asian, goofy, unrealistic and ANOTHER f**king sword game. How many games like this does the market really need?

 Well, there certainly are things in GW2 you haven't seen in other games. It's not Asian, nor goofy. It's fantasy, so it's not realistic, but if you're only into Sci-fi and hate Fantasy then you shouldn't even bother visiting this forum because it IS a Fantasy game. If you want nothing to do with that, then stick to EVE or Star Wars or whatever you're into.

  Enok4Twunni

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12/29/11 5:15:52 PM#90
Originally posted by TUX426
Originally posted by tixylix

The art style just looks like a generic Asian MMO to me and I just cannot get excited for how it looks. I have no idea how the world is built, I've played Guild Wars but that wasn't an MMO but I've heard this time round it is a proper world? I dunno but from everything I've seen it looks like it does the AoC thing where everything is in the skybox and the actual world is pretty enclosed and linear. 

It just looks like a very generic MMO, the art doesn't stick out at all and I have no interest in the story because the story of the first one was so bad and generic. Can some one please explain to me why people are getting so excited for it? Just looks like another Asian MMO like how everyone was excited for Aion or something and yet it just looked generic again.

 

 

I agree 100%.

Nothing we haven't seen in 1000 MMOs in the past few years. Asian, goofy, unrealistic and ANOTHER f**king sword game. How many games like this does the market really need?

Do you want that we should wield kittens? Kittens are realistic. Should we have a world that looks exactly like podunk Alabama? Or should it be space weapons? Kittens with lasers maybe? Or maybe ANet should scrap this whole project and make it so realistic that there is friendly fire and you have to pull down your pants and poo after ingesting too many potions. Maybe even hit the "T" key to sleep for hours so you get a rested bonus. I didn't know Asia spread across to North America. I'm misinformed. This game doesn't have only swords. I think you can use multiple weapons. You obviously did a lot of thinking before posting. And as far as this market needing a game like this, well first you need to look at the market trends and what people are buying. Are they buying Rift, WoW, TOR, Aion, etc.? Hmm, I'd like to think so. But of course I'd only base what I see on facts, realistic statistics. Can you name the thousand MMO's that have the same game mechanics as this new game? Can you even name a thousand that are like WoW or Aion? Or maybe you just like to rant and rave about things you obviously care little about. I think the ladder is the fact. You, sir, are a silly gerbil. Have a nice day. :)

  gainesvilleg

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Joined: 2/27/11
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12/29/11 5:18:18 PM#91

I agree with the OP, I really don't get why the hype meter is so high for GW2.  I thought GW1 was dreadful and had one of the worst game engines since the early 1990's.  No clue why Arenanet is given the benefit of the doubt here as they haven't really shown they can develop a good game engine even.  But I will probably buy GW2 anyway though since I really can't resist playing "the next great game" even though I personally think it will be weak sauce.  You never know where game inspiration will come from, even from a hack-developer like Arenanet.

For instance I also thought SWTOR would be terrible but I bought it anyway and am enjoying it.  SWOTR was very revolutionary in its own way (not in an MMO sense but more in a RPG sense).  Maybe GW2 will be revolutionary in some way as well?

GW2 "built from the ground up with microtransactions in mind"
1) Cash->Gems->Gold->Influence->WvWvWBoosts = PAY2WIN
2) Mystic Chests = Crass in-game cash shop advertisements

  Sector13

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12/29/11 5:24:03 PM#92
Originally posted by gainesvilleg

I agree with the OP, I really don't get why the hype meter is so high for GW2.  I thought GW1 was dreadful and had one of the worst game engines since the early 1990's.  No clue why Arenanet is given the benefit of the doubt here as they haven't really shown they can develop a good game engine even.  But I will probably buy GW2 anyway though since I really can't resist playing "the next great game" even though I personally think it will be weak sauce.  You never know where game inspiration will come from, even from a hack-developer like Arenanet.

For instance I also thought SWTOR would be terrible but I bought it anyway and am enjoying it.  SWOTR was very revolutionary in its own way (not in an MMO sense but more in a RPG sense).

That alone makes your opinion not worth reading.

  Dekarx12

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12/29/11 5:25:01 PM#93
Originally posted by gainesvilleg

I agree with the OP, I really don't get why the hype meter is so high for GW2.  I thought GW1 was dreadful and had one of the worst game engines since the early 1990's.  No clue why Arenanet is given the benefit of the doubt here as they haven't really shown they can develop a good game engine even.  But I will probably buy GW2 anyway though since I really can't resist playing "the next great game" even though I personally think it will be weak sauce.  You never know where game inspiration will come from, even from a hack-developer like Arenanet.

For instance I also thought SWTOR would be terrible but I bought it anyway and am enjoying it.  SWOTR was very revolutionary in its own way (not in an MMO sense but more in a RPG sense).

Not once did u point out your reasons why thing think AN are a *Hack-developer* all u said is i hate this and that and i think this and then u go and defend TOR.. u sir a prime example of a TROLL. AN have sold millionos of copys and your calling them a hack? really? lol

  gainesvilleg

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12/29/11 5:25:54 PM#94
Originally posted by Sector13
Originally posted by gainesvilleg

I agree with the OP, I really don't get why the hype meter is so high for GW2.  I thought GW1 was dreadful and had one of the worst game engines since the early 1990's.  No clue why Arenanet is given the benefit of the doubt here as they haven't really shown they can develop a good game engine even.  But I will probably buy GW2 anyway though since I really can't resist playing "the next great game" even though I personally think it will be weak sauce.  You never know where game inspiration will come from, even from a hack-developer like Arenanet.

For instance I also thought SWTOR would be terrible but I bought it anyway and am enjoying it.  SWOTR was very revolutionary in its own way (not in an MMO sense but more in a RPG sense).

That alone makes your opinion not worth reading.

SWTOR is a very revolutionary RPG.  It is not a revolutionary MMO.  Read more carefully...

GW2 "built from the ground up with microtransactions in mind"
1) Cash->Gems->Gold->Influence->WvWvWBoosts = PAY2WIN
2) Mystic Chests = Crass in-game cash shop advertisements

  Sector13

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12/29/11 5:29:48 PM#95
Originally posted by gainesvilleg
Originally posted by Sector13
Originally posted by gainesvilleg

I agree with the OP, I really don't get why the hype meter is so high for GW2.  I thought GW1 was dreadful and had one of the worst game engines since the early 1990's.  No clue why Arenanet is given the benefit of the doubt here as they haven't really shown they can develop a good game engine even.  But I will probably buy GW2 anyway though since I really can't resist playing "the next great game" even though I personally think it will be weak sauce.  You never know where game inspiration will come from, even from a hack-developer like Arenanet.

For instance I also thought SWTOR would be terrible but I bought it anyway and am enjoying it.  SWOTR was very revolutionary in its own way (not in an MMO sense but more in a RPG sense).

That alone makes your opinion not worth reading.

SWTOR is a very revolutionary RPG.  It is not a revolutionary MMO.  Read more carefully...

I read it perfectly fine. Again, it is not and hasn't been for years. It's the same RPG type that Bioware has been releasing since before WoW. Maybe you should brush up on your RPG history before telling other people what to do.

  gainesvilleg

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12/29/11 5:30:26 PM#96
Originally posted by Dekarx12
Originally posted by gainesvilleg

I agree with the OP, I really don't get why the hype meter is so high for GW2.  I thought GW1 was dreadful and had one of the worst game engines since the early 1990's.  No clue why Arenanet is given the benefit of the doubt here as they haven't really shown they can develop a good game engine even.  But I will probably buy GW2 anyway though since I really can't resist playing "the next great game" even though I personally think it will be weak sauce.  You never know where game inspiration will come from, even from a hack-developer like Arenanet.

For instance I also thought SWTOR would be terrible but I bought it anyway and am enjoying it.  SWOTR was very revolutionary in its own way (not in an MMO sense but more in a RPG sense).

Not once did u point out your reasons why thing think AN are a *Hack-developer* all u said is i hate this and that and i think this and then u go and defend TOR.. u sir a prime example of a TROLL. AN have sold millionos of copys and your calling them a hack? really? lol

I've pointed out the reasons I thought GW1 was terrible in many threads before.  I don't deny it sold copies, but do you want me to list all the problems I had with it again?  Here are a few:

1) Invisible walls EVERYWHERE.  You can't even jump a small fence.

2) In fact, you can't jump at all!?!?!  This game engine was a major step back in functionality even for the time.

3) One of the worst implemented cameras in the history of gaming.  If you were on a small incline, it was literally impossible to lift the camera up enough to see in the distance

4) Default key bindings and mouse settings just screamed "I have no clue how to develop a game engine"

5) All instances no virtual world at all

6) Lifeless environments

7) Very limited abilities that made combat and PVP overly simplistic

 

Need I go on?  And not sure why everybody shouts "troll" so frequently here.  Is everybody so sensitive they can't take criticism of their favorite game?

GW2 "built from the ground up with microtransactions in mind"
1) Cash->Gems->Gold->Influence->WvWvWBoosts = PAY2WIN
2) Mystic Chests = Crass in-game cash shop advertisements

  Enok4Twunni

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12/29/11 5:31:55 PM#97
Originally posted by gainesvilleg

I agree with the OP, I really don't get why the hype meter is so high for GW2.  I thought GW1 was dreadful and had one of the worst game engines since the early 1990's.  No clue why Arenanet is given the benefit of the doubt here as they haven't really shown they can develop a good game engine even.  But I will probably buy GW2 anyway though since I really can't resist playing "the next great game" even though I personally think it will be weak sauce.  You never know where game inspiration will come from, even from a hack-developer like Arenanet.

For instance I also thought SWTOR would be terrible but I bought it anyway and am enjoying it.  SWOTR was very revolutionary in its own way (not in an MMO sense but more in a RPG sense).  Maybe GW2 will be revolutionary in some way as well?

 

Bethesda makes really good game engines...oh wait. For it's time GW 1 was a very good game. Runs smoothly for most, pretty darn good graphics, stability, and at the end of the day, longevity. It's free. I guess you people refuse to watch interviews and the countless hours of gameplay footage, plus the peoples thoughts that have played the game. I haven't played TOR so I can't comment about the RPG elements. It is possible that there are different games with different qualities. Maybe even some different games bring different innovation. That's a surprise. I jest. 

  gainesvilleg

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12/29/11 5:34:09 PM#98
Originally posted by Sector13
Originally posted by gainesvilleg
Originally posted by Sector13
Originally posted by gainesvilleg

I agree with the OP, I really don't get why the hype meter is so high for GW2.  I thought GW1 was dreadful and had one of the worst game engines since the early 1990's.  No clue why Arenanet is given the benefit of the doubt here as they haven't really shown they can develop a good game engine even.  But I will probably buy GW2 anyway though since I really can't resist playing "the next great game" even though I personally think it will be weak sauce.  You never know where game inspiration will come from, even from a hack-developer like Arenanet.

For instance I also thought SWTOR would be terrible but I bought it anyway and am enjoying it.  SWOTR was very revolutionary in its own way (not in an MMO sense but more in a RPG sense).

That alone makes your opinion not worth reading.

SWTOR is a very revolutionary RPG.  It is not a revolutionary MMO.  Read more carefully...

I read it perfectly fine. Again, it is not and hasn't been for years. It's the same RPG type that Bioware has been releasing since before WoW. Maybe you should brush up on your RPG history before telling other people what to do.

Thats funny, I don't remember any Bioware games that had thousands of players playing with you.  Please clue me in on that one pal.  Not sure how many single player or small group RPG's you've played before, but the good ones always had a chorus of "Why couldn't we just play this with our friends" and now Bioware has pulled this off in a pretty slick way.

And if you want to compare gaming knowledge, I've been playing games since pong. Literally.  And as for RPG pedigree I've even got a $5 copy of Baldurs Gate 2 freshly installed on my hard drive of my brand spanking new PC (every PC I've ever owned I've put a copy of it on there).  I think I know a little bit about gaming kiddo.

GW2 "built from the ground up with microtransactions in mind"
1) Cash->Gems->Gold->Influence->WvWvWBoosts = PAY2WIN
2) Mystic Chests = Crass in-game cash shop advertisements

  Siveria

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12/29/11 5:34:17 PM#99

Just like everyone was raving over the overly generic star wars the old warcraft. This is just the next "big but generic" mmo coming out. When it comes time for Pso2's release I bet it won't be as popular, alot of the mmo players introed thru wow don't even know what PSO is. Generic themeparks like wow, rift, swtor and the upcoming gw2 are dying out slowly, people are getting sick of the same game in a new wrapper. I haven't played a mmo in a while, they just aren't intersting like they used to be.

Being a pessimist is a win-win pattern of thinking. If you're a pessimist (I'll admit that I am!) you're either:

A. Proven right (if something bad happens)

or

B. Pleasantly surprised (if something good happens)

Either way, you can't lose! Try it out sometime!

  sazabi

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12/29/11 5:37:05 PM#100

gw 1 was beautiful. it didnt have the extremely memorable character design or whatever... i mean its not nearly simillar as warcraft orcs for example.

the style was functional, not annoying etc.

gw 2 seems like its going to be following the same thing... tho id say some of the races look retarded and not fitting.

 

hmm lets take swtor as a comparison... im huge star wars fan, but swtor style just looks awful. the game has dated graphics also.... and yet people still go for it...

come to think of it - there arent many mmos that have that distinctive 'holy crap' thing going.

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