to me polished isnt just bug free. It is an immersive, living, breathing world. How can this game be constantly heralded as "Polished" when it doesnt have the basic stuff, like rain and other weather patterns, or even the basic of all -- A night/day cycle. I am sorry but polished would have to include these as well. EQ in 1999 had all this -- now in 2011, we get games that dont even have the level of immersion as an MMO that came out in.... 1999 ? really ??? and people want to call it "polished?"

sorry, not in my book.

Originally posted by Tyvolus

to me polished isnt just bug free. It is an immersive, living, breathing world. How can this game be constantly heralded as "Polished" when it doesnt have the basic stuff, like rain

It's getting harder and harder to tell who's joking and who's serious when it comes to the SWTOR bashing.

Polished in my opinion is an entertaining and mostly bug free game.

Weather is fluff not polish

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Originally posted by obii
Polished in my opinion is an entertaining and mostly bug free game.
Weather is fluff not polish

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the little things like weather effects, night/day cycles, etc are what help create a living/breathing world. otherwise, you have a static, sterile, soulless world that some of todays MMOs are pushing out the door...including swtor. Although you dont care for these basic elements that add a polished look and feel to a game, many do. One of the coolest parts of Skyrim are the intense weather patterns throughout the game, especially the harsh and unforgiving mountain ranges. It adds a polished very real feel to a game. shows the devs care about their craft.

They might still implement weather. Remember it took WOW a few years to add weather too and we played it nevertheless.

Originally posted by Tyvolus

 

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Originally posted by obii
Polished in my opinion is an entertaining and mostly bug free game.
Weather is fluff not polish

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the little things like weather effects, night/day cycles, etc are what help create a living/breathing world. otherwise, you have a static, sterile, soulless world that some of todays MMOs are pushing out the door...including swtor. Although you dont care for these basic elements that add a polished look and feel to a game, many do. One of the coolest parts of Skyrim are the intense weather patterns throughout the game, especially the harsh and unforgiving mountain ranges. It adds a polished very real feel to a game. shows the devs care about their craft.

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Skyrim is a bug infested pos game utterly unoptimized for ANY platform. The interface is an abortion of the nth degree even for the shitbox 360 controller much less the PC. How bout that always set to 360 controller default for the PC????. Texture bugs, your npc bugs, dragons bugged out main quest line fukd up, absolute JOKE inventory management system.... on and on..

Skyrim is FUN but its far from polished. After about a fucking year or two of modding will skyrim be "polished"

You dont like star wars becuase you dont like star wars fine. But to compare it to Skyrim in the "polish" department  {mod edit}

That was a minor gripe with me how ever my one of my biggest gripes was the NPCS, those guys look ready to stuff, but never did it or hell the leader of the groups of people kept walking back and forth saying nothing, it was weird as hell. Then killing 2 of the renegade soldiers, the Renegade leader standing the middle, killed me, and then went back to talking(wasn't really saying aything) to himself :/.

I don't know if it's intended to have stale azz npcs but I guess that is well polished.

SWTOR is less polished than an Elder Scrolls game.

Relative to other MMORPGs (its peers), SWTOR is fairly polished for a newly released game.

It is lacking a lot of features that people expect though.

you need to spend mroe time in game because EXCUSE ME but it RAINS!

Originally posted by Creslin321

Relative to other MMORPGs (its peers), SWTOR is fairly polished for a newly released game.

It is lacking a lot of features that people expect though.

Basically this. TOR released with the same auction house as Aion released with back in 09' that made you want to kill a furry rabbit. Some of the stuff proves the devs have been a bubble for the past 4 years as the mmo genre changed around them. They have come out of the bubble and can not figure out why people are pissed.

These guys are talking about a legacy system when everyone is asking about dual spec, ability delays, or character customization. I seriously doubt they expect people to see a Full server and roll there, so they never considered transfers being needed or hell making them free.

Polish isn't about the feature set.  It's about doing well what the game set out to do.  If what the game set out to do is really boring, then the game can be highly polished and still terrible.

Originally posted by obii

Polished in my opinion is an entertaining and mostly bug free game.

Weather is fluff not polish

All "fluff" is a form of polish. Polishing is about fixing/smoothening out the small details in bigger systems.  Bug fixes are therefore often a form of polish, since although the large systems are set, they may still have a number of small bugs which need to be smoothened out. 

Adding "fluff" is a way to smooth out a larger system as well and thus falls under the category of polish.

Ever traveled to Dromund Kaas?

Bring a rain coat.

one thing it has is pvp zone (lot of them)i remember we had those in wow before they got thorn down!i am happy there are pvp zone now only thing missing is that each of those zone can be owned and once a month or so they can change hand !

Lot's of people have heralded SWTOR as a very polished product, in some ways it is, but in other ways it is buggy as crap.  A lot of the main game systems are polished. They work as intended. Game is very playable.  

The launch was relatively smooth, despite the occasional forum freak out over queues, a maintenance that went over schedule by 2 hours, credit cards, and staggered Early Access.

However, there are an absolute crapton of bugs in this game. Some of them are very minor, some of them are very major. I think it would be hard to call this game "very polished" right now.  

I love the game, don't get me wrong, but there are some really freaking annoying bugs out there. The interface bugs are the worst. Sometimes in Huttball my raid frames don't accurately report anyone else's health. The health bar shows full, but they are actually half dead. I'm a freaking healer and THIS DRIVES ME ABSOLUTELY INSANE. 

Anyways, for me, a polished game has to be relatively bug free.  Bugs, this game has lots of them.  Lots.

Originally posted by DarkPony

Ever traveled to Dromund Kaas?

Bring a rain coat.

bet this is one of those guys who just watched some previews (doesnt have game). And is fan boy of another game.

Originally posted by leumasx7

Originally posted by DarkPony

Ever traveled to Dromund Kaas?

Bring a rain coat.

bet this is one of those guys who just watched some previews (doesnt have game). And is fan boy of another game.

darkpony has beeen playing swtor for a while. sooner or later you'll have to face the facts.

Polished means that it is well coded.

The life like world thing is also important but not the same thing as polished.