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  Kappadonna

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Joined: 6/05/11
Posts: 70

12/28/11 10:43:26 PM#41

By maintaining the Bioware experience they must mean linear corridors, tons of instancing, and as always - numerous and long loading screens (even with hardware firepower), right? Because that's what I see a lot of in SWTOR from levels 1-50. Don't see much else.

  Olgark

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Joined: 5/20/10
Posts: 278

12/29/11 4:20:34 AM#42

I like the game so far, but I do think they may have placed a weight around their necks with the full voice and cinematics, I hope they can keep them going and live up to their claims. But reality wise I cant see this happening.


And I have done hammer station and Esseless countless times and still watch the cinematics and love the conversations. For me it never gets dull.


  Talin

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Joined: 5/20/04
Posts: 825

You only live once... make it count!

12/29/11 5:28:12 AM#43

Originally posted by Puremallace


Originally posted by Talin


KOTOR, Mass Effect, and DA games haven't let me down in terms of games and sequels/expansions (although a few of the DLC weren't up to par), so I have a lot of faith in SWTOR at this point.



Dragon Age: Origins  - 2009


Dragon Age II - March 10, 2011


 


If you think for a cold chance in hell mmo players are willing to wait that long for content updates you guys have another thing coming. Bioware is in for a rude awakening when SOME people even thought Trions schedule was slow.


 


Bioware has 2-3 months at most before people start raging hard for new content.



 


Of course people won't wait years, and I agree that 2-3 months is the breaking point for showing a "significant" addition to the game post-release. That said, TOR has (had?) a huge staff involved in the game, and assuming they retain most, may just be able to pull it off.


  Ozmodan

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Joined: 2/27/07
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12/29/11 6:28:22 AM#44

Well the planets are small, so there is little to explore, the crafting is very simplistic and not very useful, the leveling process is far too fast, most will be at end game well before the end of the first month.  The space on rails gets tired really fast.  What is left to keep people in game?  Raiding?

I really doubt we will see much new content any time soon, they spent so much time on the quest process they did not have the time for development elsewhere.  

I see no longevity here.  Most players will be bored before spring.  Reminds me of the Cataclysm update for Wow, of the many who came back to Wow to play it, most were bored by spring.  

It all depends when something new hits, I think there will be a big exodus at that time.

So enjoy your time in SWTOR while it lasts, don't imagine you will see any queues at all after the first month.

  Cameo3

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Joined: 9/19/11
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12/29/11 6:44:42 AM#45


Originally posted by veggie_eater


Originally posted by warbot7777
Look at all these people crying about an amazing game. Just shut up and go play your nasty World of Warcraft. We won't miss you.


You should respect other people free right to speech. What are you doing here? Arent you going to fetch berries and kill rats with your Jedi?

Or kill sith initiates and acolytes. :) Or gather beer as a dwarfman in wow. Or collect crystals as a fegelf in wow. Or try to fix your broken spaceship in wow.

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  zymurgeist

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Joined: 12/24/04
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12/29/11 6:47:44 AM#46
Originally posted by Ozmodan

Well the planets are small, so there is little to explore, the crafting is very simplistic and not very useful, the leveling process is far too fast, most will be at end game well before the end of the first month.  The space on rails gets tired really fast.  What is left to keep people in game?  Raiding?

I really doubt we will see much new content any time soon, they spent so much time on the quest process they did not have the time for development elsewhere.  

I see no longevity here.  Most players will be bored before spring.  Reminds me of the Cataclysm update for Wow, of the many who came back to Wow to play it, most were bored by spring.  

It all depends when something new hits, I think there will be a big exodus at that time.

So enjoy your time in SWTOR while it lasts, don't imagine you will see any queues at all after the first month.

 As mind boggling as you may find it that's what some people like in a game, even over the long term. They're pushing out new content this month. It's flashpoints and battlegrounds.

"Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause" ~Victor Hugo

  zymurgeist

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Joined: 12/24/04
Posts: 5178

12/29/11 6:52:28 AM#47
Originally posted by veggie_eater
Originally posted by warbot7777

Look at all these people crying about an amazing game. Just shut up and go play your nasty World of Warcraft. We won't miss you.

You should respect other people free right to speech. What are you doing here? Arent you going to fetch berries and kill rats with your Jedi?

 Not really. When people resort to relentless bitching in the really real world I hand them a nice warm cup of stfu. I'd get banned for it here. The WoW thing is a bit off the mark though.

"Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause" ~Victor Hugo

  zymurgeist

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Posts: 5178

12/29/11 6:55:58 AM#48
Originally posted by veggie_eater
Originally posted by Cameo3

 


Originally posted by veggie_eater


Originally posted by warbot7777
Look at all these people crying about an amazing game. Just shut up and go play your nasty World of Warcraft. We won't miss you.



You should respect other people free right to speech. What are you doing here? Arent you going to fetch berries and kill rats with your Jedi?

 

Or kill sith initiates and acolytes. :) Or gather beer as a dwarfman in wow. Or collect crystals as a fegelf in wow. Or try to fix your broken spaceship in wow.

/ironic mode/  Like we always see in the movies the proud  Jedis fetching berries for a noname.

This is to show you that swtor is a bit off from the original SW universe. 

 Yoda ate berries all the time. He sent Luke foraging quite often. Probably just to get away from him. The boy was a whiney git just like his father was as a emo teen.

"Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause" ~Victor Hugo

  garry

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Joined: 4/16/05
Posts: 264

12/29/11 9:51:35 AM#49

Thought I would add something besides repeating recycled whines and complaints. Bioware is a savvy company that is fully aware of the wide variety of playstyles and players. They know, for example, that powerlevelers are out there and will do their thing. The rush to endgame players will buy and take off running. Bioware simply bet on a great number of them to BUY the game. The company fully realizes they will not stay and will post away untill the next game. Rinse and repeat but meanwhile Bioware got their  money and maybe a few months sub as well. Good enough.


 


Bioware is counting on more players like myself. I played two preorder betas, early access and now sub for a week. I have one main and he just reached lvl 15 during my first run of Esseles Flashpoint. The only thing that actually reaches the level of a problem is my eagerness to try out the other characters as well, but I intend to stick with my main for now. Bioware knows there are a LOT of players out here just like me. We know that any MMO has things that various players do not like - I found character creation lacking, no appearance tab a bit disappointing, an arcade space game is certainly not my cup of tea and I am still trying to figure out crafting. I am not a "fanboi', nor unmindful of what I believe can be changed or improved.


 


I do like the game, I am having fun playing and will wait and see what is to come. To the OP and others who have already powered to the end - well, thanks for your money and hope the next game (EA's TSW maybe?) will be better for you. In the meantime myself (you know - the lowest common denominator) and a few million others will sub and have fun. Will it last? Have to wait and see, won't we? I hope it does.


  DaddyDark

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Joined: 1/08/11
Posts: 138

1/05/12 4:37:02 AM#50

I want to see the article about the long SWTOR patching times, not properly  anouncing server down times, not following the schedule (when it is anounced), long server queues and game crashes. The game is pretty good (much better than WoW anyway), but do not underestimate the support side of business. WoW was successful not only because of the game mechanics, but also as it was the best supported game ever (and still is, as the SWTOR is not up to the game maintenance standard yet). I bet that players will start quiting if the devs won't improve the support in a month or 2. Having the servers down from 16 to 20 hours (Moscow time) is not funny at all - even during the working days, and we are in the middle of hollidays right now. WTF?! We pay to play, not to wait for the servers to be up and then to get into the queue... 


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