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Arbadacarba
Novice Member
Joined: 7/30/07
All men are mortal. Socrates is mortal. Therefore, all men are Socrates. |
12/23/11 5:37:06 PM#21
"Maya inscriptions occasionally reference future predicted events or commemorations that would occur on dates that lie beyond 2012 (that is, beyond the completion of the 13th b'ak'tun of the current era). Most of these are in the form of 'distance dates' where some Long Count date is given, together with a Distance Number that is to be added to the Long Count date to arrive at this future date."
"Despite the publicity generated by the 2012 date, Susan Milbrath, curator of Latin American Art and Archaeology at the Florida Museum of Natural History, stated that 'We have no record or knowledge that [the Maya] would think the world would come to an end' in 2012.[33] 'For the ancient Maya, it was a huge celebration to make it to the end of a whole cycle,' says Sandra Noble, executive director of the Foundation for the Advancement of Mesoamerican Studies in Crystal River, Florida. To render December 21, 2012, as a doomsday event or moment of cosmic shifting, she says, is 'a complete fabrication and a chance for a lot of people to cash in.'[33] 'There will be another cycle,' says E. Wyllys Andrews V, director of the Tulane University Middle American Research Institute (MARI). 'We know the Maya thought there was one before this, and that implies they were comfortable with the idea of another one after this.'[34]" (Wikipedia)
The Mayans measured time in repeating cycles, just like us. Their calendar is cycled through just like ours. The difference is that our calendar is much smaller and is recycled much more frequently compared to theirs. |
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AkaJetson
Novice Member
Joined: 5/10/07
"I was born intelligent but education ruined me." |
12/23/11 6:32:29 PM#22
People are gonna be like OMG END OF THE WORLD everytime a natural disaster happens next year. ? |
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Zindaihas
Novice Member
Joined: 5/07/06
'If you put govt in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 yrs there'd be a shortage of sand'~M. Friedman |
Originally posted by AkaJetson Yeah, well no biggie there. I do that already whenever a natural disaster hits anyway. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tK6YIAX1jg |
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WaldoCorn
Novice Member
Joined: 8/11/11
Find the truith, just beyond grasp, with eyes of steel, and a heart of solid glass. |
12/25/11 5:19:46 AM#24
This will be me on 12/22/12 if it isnt the end http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=uLso0ZBqOi4 See the world and all within it. |
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12/25/11 7:29:09 AM#25
Originally posted by frodus It's the ancient version of Y2K.
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12/25/11 7:34:40 AM#26
Originally posted by Arbadacarba Thanks a lot the world was going to end next year, but thanks to your reasoning it's going to end at the end on Dec. 31st this year!!! Damn you and your brain it's doomed us all!!!! |
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outfctrl
Advanced Member
Joined: 11/16/03
American by Birth |
12/27/11 8:23:10 AM#27
Originally posted by pyrofreak Curious. Why would it end on 2012 and not 2013 or even 4013? Did they run out of time before they disappeared or did the guy making the calendar, croak. Just a thought
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12/27/11 12:06:20 PM#28
I'll be spending my next year working and making money. Too bad I won't get to ever spend it. I like how everyone thought all electronics were going to be down in the new millenium when 2000 hit. Everyone freaked out or something. Still lol at that. |
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12/28/11 7:38:14 AM#29
having read a few books that "tried" covering 2012 and its mayan tag, all I can do is consider possibilities. if the world changes for the better, great. if some "cloud" embraces the earth, I'd wonder what it brought with it(mutation?) beyond that I can't say I care enough at this point since the leaders of the world are total and official wack jobs, and as 1 person there is jack squat I can really do to redirect the decisive direction any country *COUGH*iran*COUGH* is headed. all that said I'm an open mind, so the best and truest policy is to take things 1 day at a time, and keep some resources on hand if shit does hit the fan. |
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12/28/11 11:04:31 AM#30
Originally posted by outfctrl Well a calendar has to end some time... i mean you can't make an infinitely long calendar. There is always a time where the guy says "well this is long enough".
But my main issue would be , what technology did the mayans have that we don't to predict the end of the world? We most certainly exceed on every aspect technology wise, if they managed to find it out we surely should have as well. And unless the people who believe in the end of the world believe in a giant conspiracy where all the governments are hiding that info from us there is no reason to believe in the end of the world. Fere libenter homines id quod volunt credunt. |
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outfctrl
Advanced Member
Joined: 11/16/03
American by Birth |
12/28/11 11:43:07 AM#31
Originally posted by generals3 Wrong! One day our Sun will become a red giant and that is when the end of the world will be. The Sun only has enough fuel for another 5 billion years.
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Ceridith
Novice Member
Joined: 11/24/09
The more you hype an upcoming game in your mind, the more it will fail to meet your expectations. |
12/29/11 10:58:37 PM#32
Phff, you're all wrong. The 2011 calender ends on December 31st, so the world is ending in two days. |
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Zindaihas
Novice Member
Joined: 5/07/06
'If you put govt in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 yrs there'd be a shortage of sand'~M. Friedman |
Originally posted by outfctrl Ok, so I finally did some research into the Mayan Calendar so I would know exactly what all the hub bub is about. It turns out the Mayans had one of the most complex calendars of any civilization. They had two different annual calendars, a 260-day count known as the Tzolkin and a 365-day vague solar year known as the Haab. After 52 Haabs, the two calendars would syncronize to form the Calendar Round. Of course, none of that is really relevent to the 2012 date because those deal with relatively short periods of time. The 2012 date has to do with the entire period of time known as the Long Count. According to Mayan creation lore, the earth "re-cycles" itself every 144,000 days in a period known as a baktun. There has been 12 completed baktuns already and the earth is in the midst of the 13th baktun. The 13th baktun is scheduled to end on Dec. 21, 2012 when the world will re-cycle again. What that means, no one knows I guess, but many have taken it to mean the end of the world as we know it. I guess we'll find out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tK6YIAX1jg |
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Purutzil
Elite Member
Joined: 10/02/11
If you see no good or you see no bad in a game, chances are you are bias. |
12/31/11 11:35:32 PM#34
All I got to say is...
It would be awesome if the world came to an end with the moon slowly closing in and crashing into the planet with a nice evil face on itself, just to make it that much more awesome.
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1/01/12 3:35:07 AM#35
Originally posted by ZindaihasOriginally posted by pyrofreak See this the kind of stuff I fear about 2012! I fear the crazy nut cases that believe this crap will do crazy crap to harm people. History has shown that their were groups who believed the end of the world was near, and caused mass harm because of that!!!! What will we do about this this year?
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1/01/12 3:41:18 AM#36
Originally posted by ZindaihasOriginally posted by outfctrl Well if the shit happen before, yet the world is still here, where did people get this idea that it means the world would end?
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Dewm
Spotlight Poster
Joined: 5/29/09
Players come for the game, but they stay for the people- Most Devs have forgotten this. |
1/02/12 12:28:05 PM#37
Originally posted by outfctrl Pfffff 5 billion? if we an't off this rock by then we never will be.
But back on toppic... If the mayans (sp?) could really see into the future and see that the world would end that day, why couldn't they see into the future and see that they would all die off? ....Seems like they could have done somethign to prevent that. |
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Dewm
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Joined: 5/29/09
Players come for the game, but they stay for the people- Most Devs have forgotten this. |
1/02/12 12:29:59 PM#38
Originally posted by MMOExposed Maybe when it goes to re-cycle the trash dude gets it confuzed and just take the whole thing to the dump? |
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Arbadacarba
Novice Member
Joined: 7/30/07
All men are mortal. Socrates is mortal. Therefore, all men are Socrates. |
1/02/12 1:04:30 PM#39
Originally posted by Dewm The Mayans could not "see into the future." They made a big calendar that ends and starts over on 21 December, 2012. That's it.
The Mayans measured time in repeating cycles, just like us. Their calendar is cycled through just like ours. The main difference is that our calendar is much smaller and is recycled much more frequently compared to theirs.
The Mayans used a bigger, more accurate calendar that starts over in 2012; and, without any more evidence, people erroraneously correlate that to the end of the world. You people are crazy. No wonder stupid shows full of pseudoscience and pseudohistory do so well on network television. |
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Zindaihas
Novice Member
Joined: 5/07/06
'If you put govt in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 yrs there'd be a shortage of sand'~M. Friedman |
Originally posted by Arbadacarba Now when you say "you people", who are you referring to? I don't know if I've seen anyone on here who is taking this seriously, just people who are having a little fun with it. Also, you don't have it quite right. You are saying that Mayan calendar recycles, only over a longer period of time than our calendar. According to the baktun, it's the earth that's supposed to recycle on December 21st. That's a bit more significant. It's just that we don't know exactly what that means and so, some are taking it to mean the end of the world. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tK6YIAX1jg |