This is not an MMO, its a lobby game. Zone are instanced.

Thats as much as i read then i just stopped. Because anyone who has played the game knows that this is an outright lie, thats the problem with reviewers, you are allowed to write them without having to prove that you actually played the damn game.

Originally posted by Puremallace

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/star-wars-the-old-republic/user-reviews

 

Someone pissed in those reviewers Cherios because some of them are raging hard lol

Yeah, well...  I wouldn't really put too much stock in the fact that the reviews are mostly negative, since the people who like the game are too busy playing it to care about writing a stupid review.

i stopped reading the reviews on that site when people started posting that the cutscenes were performed terribly and badly done.

Whether you like the game or not you cannot justifiably make that statement.

Obvious blind haters are obvious.

Originally posted by Distopia

Originally posted by Toxia

Originally posted by BlackUhuru

User reviews mean everything to a game.

I agree. Though i havent played SWTOR, if i wanted to and looked at reviews, i always look more towards the User reviews.

Right because the users are typically fair in their reviews.

Posting this again for emphasis. Exactly.

2.1 out of 10 for MW3? I'm not a COD fan at all, never have been but seriously that's just ridiculous, this is agenda not a game review.

The funny thing is that MW3 and SWTOR are amongst the best selling games in history. Probably also 2 of the most played games at this time (i'm guessing here tho).

Haters express their hate more then lovers express their love. Which makes sense. If you love something you're at peace with it and spend your time with what you love. You don't care if others love it as well, you just enjoy it in your time and space. If you hate something you want to hunt it down and kill it. Human nature.

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Originally posted by timtrack

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Originally posted by Distopia

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Originally posted by Toxia

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Originally posted by BlackUhuru

User reviews mean everything to a game.

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I agree. Though i havent played SWTOR, if i wanted to and looked at reviews, i always look more towards the User reviews.

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Right because the users are typically fair in their reviews.
Posting this again for emphasis. Exactly.
2.1 out of 10 for MW3? I'm not a COD fan at all, never have been but seriously that's just ridiculous, this is agenda not a game review.

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The funny thing is that MW3 and SWTOR are amongst the best selling games in history. Probably also 2 of the most played games at this time (i'm guessing here tho).
Haters express their hate more then lovers express their love. Which makes sense. If you love something you're at peace with it and spend your time with what you love. You don't care if others love it as well, you just enjoy it in your time and space. If you hate something you want to hunt it down and kill it. Human nature.

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Originally posted by returnintor

Originally posted by SideTraKd

Originally posted by Puremallace

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/star-wars-the-old-republic/user-reviews

 

Someone pissed in those reviewers Cherios because some of them are raging hard lol

Yeah, well...  I wouldn't really put too much stock in the fact that the reviews are mostly negative, since the people who like the game are too busy playing it to care about writing a stupid review.

He he. I remember Dallas Dickinson saying exactly the same thing abiut six years ago. Of course, then he was talking about SWG. I wonder whatever became of him?

That's funny how the fan of Swtor here try to defend the lack of any value in player review, when in fact exactly the same reason push people to give low score to Swtor as they did with MW3.
They did it because those game contain no advancement in gameplay, this is all over the net, the people that don't get the message are those in denial. Paying for a new game is supposed to give you a new game, not the same one with a slightly different skin, this is just rip off. Just read the net guys, people are fed off clones. And obviously the reason is not because those game company cannot make advancement, but because they start to refuse doing them.

And honestly Swtor do have some story which is maybe the explanation of a slightly better score. Maybe people are fed up of being cash cow? I mean games are now stupidly expensive, with all those on side payment for solo games, the retail price are also the most expensive of all the entertainment industry, yet you don't see any effort from the industry to make anything. In fact they even begin to use the "we make traditional mmo" as an excuse and a valid explanation of their lack of work, like they did with Rift and Swtor. ANd their explanation is WOW is an EQ clone, so we will do clone as well. We all know its commercial bs, WoW did use the same core but damn it its world between EQ and WOW. There is nothing between Rift and Wow, clearly nothing. And the same principle is working for fps games. Then people wonder why they got trashed? Wake up guys. The reason those game get such lower score than what the quality of the game is, is because of an external reason, that reason weight more than the game quality itself. Stop taking people for morons.

Accept it, or deny it, nobody care really. Fact is the score is super low. Company that will keep on denying the player opinion will probably lost sell very soon as well, maybe they wont, and fan boys will be right, nobody knows really. But you can be sure some people in charge will have material for thought.

It's up to 6 on Metacritic now. On top of that it has some very decent critic reviews as well. There are more people who like the game than not, that score will continue to rise over time.

Originally posted by Loktofeit

Originally posted by adam_nox

User reviews mean nothing on metacritic.

Exactly.

 

User reviews are a joke on metacritic.

After reading over 50 of them I get the sense that many of them are from MMO players in other games who want SWTOR to fail. It's a lot of rehashed whining that has no detail, or modern relevance.

I'd give the game a 9/10, which is high for me!

Originally posted by Xondar123

Originally posted by Loktofeit

Originally posted by adam_nox

User reviews mean nothing on metacritic.

Exactly.

 

User AND Critic reviews are a joke on metacritic.

fixt

Millions of people ripped apart Modern Warfare 3 on Metacritic..

Millions of people purchased and continue to play Modern Warfare 3..

Millions of people hate World of Warcraft..

Millions of people play World of Warcraft..

Could we be so sure about what is really the case, based on what people present on the internet?

Basically, it's probably the same ol' Metacritic trolls, trollin you guys..

Originally posted by JonnyBigBoss

After reading over 50 of them I get the sense that many of them are from MMO players in other games who want SWTOR to fail. It's a lot of rehashed whining that has no detail, or modern relevance.

I'd give the game a 9/10, which is high for me!

Aren't you a mmo player who wants to see SWTOR succeed. IRONY!

Originally posted by Xondar123

Originally posted by Loktofeit

Originally posted by adam_nox

User reviews mean nothing on metacritic.

Exactly.

 

User reviews are a joke on metacritic.

You just have to actually read them. For example, user reviews are where I learned that Skyrim is basically unplayable on the PS3, which is something you would never see in a pro review.

Originally posted by lizardbones

On top of that it has some very decent critic reviews as well.

Oh please. The "Critics" scores are just as bad as the Users.

80s, 90s? Seriously?

They are nothing but Fanbois too. Worse even. They are PAID Fanbois.

What Critic is going to risk his job by giving SWTOR an honest review?

None, because the companies they work for get bigtime $$$ for Advertising the game.

The wont bite the hand that feeds.

Originally posted by PyrateLV

Originally posted by lizardbones

On top of that it has some very decent critic reviews as well.

Oh please. The "Critics" scores are just as bad as the Users.

80s, 90s? Seriously?

They are nothing but Fanbois too. Worse even. They are PAID Fanbois.

What Critic is going to risk his job by giving SWTOR an honest review?

None, because the companies they work for get bigtime $$$ for Advertising the game.

The wont bite the hand that feeds.

Yeah...it's all crap.  For comparisons purpose, here are something other MMORPG review averages on metacritic:

WotLK:  91%

WAR:  86%

Rift:  84%

AoC Rise of the Godslayer:  83%

I mean...they gave WAR an 86%.  Come on.  That game had the fastest meteroric decline in subs I've ever seen.

Professional reviews of MMORPGs are notoriously bad and short sighted.

Originally posted by GaryM

 

You just have to actually read them. For example, user reviews are where I learned that Skyrim is basically unplayable on the PS3, which is something you would never see in a pro review.

I'm not so sure about that.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/121/1214971p1.html

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/121/1214016p1.html

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/121/1212792p1.html

Originally posted by Creslin321

Yeah...it's all crap.  For comparisons purpose, here are something other MMORPG review averages on metacritic:

WotLK:  91%

WAR:  86%

Rift:  84%

AoC Rise of the Godslayer:  83%

I mean...they gave WAR an 86%.  Come on.  That game had the fastest meteroric decline in subs I've ever seen.

Professional reviews of MMORPGs are notoriously bad and short sighted.

Most people review on a steep curve that considers average to be bad.  This forces any game that's reasonably playable into the 80-90% range.  On top of that, I think people just don't know what to look for in an MMO, especially within the first 20 hours of gameplay, and even moreso if they're not really MMO fans.  If it seems decent enough, they rate it well, to stay on the safe side.  

They might not be outright payed for reviews, but they don't want to risk panning a game that doesn't deserve it.  They also don't want to be too subjective, like simply, is this a game the reviewer is going to be playing for months to come?  No, that would be unprofessional, except.. seems dishonest to me, not to take that into account. Chances are, with most MMO reviews, no, the reviewer quits as soon as they're done, because much like other regular gamers, the only one that's ever held their attention was WoW.

Btw, noticing the Metacritic score is still climbing, but if you sort the reviews by date, it's 9, 9, 10, 10, 9, 10, 3, 9, 10, 9, 10, 10, 0, 1, 2, 10, 2, 7, 10, 10, 9, 10... fanbois and haters will look at that in two very different ways :)

Originally posted by PyrateLV

Originally posted by lizardbones

On top of that it has some very decent critic reviews as well.

Oh please. The "Critics" scores are just as bad as the Users.

80s, 90s? Seriously?

They are nothing but Fanbois too. Worse even. They are PAID Fanbois.

What Critic is going to risk his job by giving SWTOR an honest review?

None, because the companies they work for get bigtime $$$ for Advertising the game.

The wont bite the hand that feeds.

Yup, every reviewer is paid off, get a clue.

Gamers have unrealistic views on games, they think if its not innovative and 100% new that its garbage that deserves a 1, most have them have played to many games toe ver enjoy anything again.

Even if proff critics are paid off, better than the gamers who ACT exactly like theve been paid off but they do it for free.