Pretty impressive numbers.  The ratio of swtor to wow is about 40%.  Not a wow killer but better then any other game I can recall.  Will be interesting to see how it looks in the coming week.

Or 7 years from now, like WoW.

Looks like SWTOR just overtook the top spot in total  minutes played for the day:  http://www.xfire.com/

I don't see it in top spot... It is number 4 overall and wow is still number 3 for all games.  So it is still trailing on minutes played but that isn't the key stat as any new game will have a real high number minute played relative to numbers of users.  The ratio yesterday for users is closer to 50% of wow which is still amazing compared to any other mmo game launch in history.

Here is the URL I look at http://www.xfire.com/genre/mmo/massively_multiplayer_online/

Originally posted by ethion

I don't see it in top spot... It is number 4 overall and wow is still number 3 for all games.  So it is still trailing on minutes played but that isn't the key stat as any new game will have a real high number minute played relative to numbers of users.  The ratio yesterday for users is closer to 50% of wow which is still amazing compared to any other mmo game launch in history.

Here is the URL I look at http://www.xfire.com/genre/mmo/massively_multiplayer_online/

 

It was literally at the top spot last night.  The thing fluctuates throughout the day.

Originally posted by Satarious

Originally posted by ethion

I don't see it in top spot... It is number 4 overall and wow is still number 3 for all games.  So it is still trailing on minutes played but that isn't the key stat as any new game will have a real high number minute played relative to numbers of users.  The ratio yesterday for users is closer to 50% of wow which is still amazing compared to any other mmo game launch in history.

Here is the URL I look at http://www.xfire.com/genre/mmo/massively_multiplayer_online/

 

It was literally at the top spot last night.  The thing fluctuates throughout the day.

Im not for either game, but I would wait a month til you start talking about hours played and number of players. The game just came out, of course their will be loads of people playing. Can the same thing be said in 1-2 months? That is when we will find out if the game is good enough to survive, or if its just not good enough for people.

Honestly I hope it survives and gets millions of subs. Anything that can derail WoW and make other companies have to re-think how they do MMOs is a great thing for the future of them.

Originally posted by Teala

Originally posted by Satarious

Originally posted by ethion

I don't see it in top spot... It is number 4 overall and wow is still number 3 for all games.  So it is still trailing on minutes played but that isn't the key stat as any new game will have a real high number minute played relative to numbers of users.  The ratio yesterday for users is closer to 50% of wow which is still amazing compared to any other mmo game launch in history.

Here is the URL I look at http://www.xfire.com/genre/mmo/massively_multiplayer_online/

 

It was literally at the top spot last night.  The thing fluctuates throughout the day.

 

It hasn't hit #1 yet, if it had xfire would indicate it. Xfire tracks a games ranking. SWTOR hasn't gotten past #4. With that said, I'd like to remind you and others that according to some we cannot use xfire ad a way to measure how good a game is doing. In the past when I and others brought it up as a measure of a games health we were told we couldn't use it. Also anyone that uses xfire knows that new games always rank high at first. Rift hit pretty high at first, ad did many new MMORPG titles, then over a 3 month period the game declined. SWTOR may do the same.

Exactly.  No one knows the percentage of the gaming population that actually uses xfire.  Therefore, using xfire figures for a basis of "statistics" to describe the total gaming population is beyond flawed and should be taken with a grain of salt.  However, usage of xfire figures as a basis to describe the xfire population is acceptable.

TOR is like the most expensive MMO ever created... it better get some decent early numbers!

Let's see how it's doing a couple of months from now and we'll know more.

Originally posted by fadis

TOR is like the most expensive MMO ever created... it better get some decent early numbers!

 

Let's see how it's doing a couple of months from now and we'll know more.

Yeah. From buzz I've been hearing it should have been much more polished, more meat, etc.

Originally posted by Teala

Originally posted by Satarious

Originally posted by ethion

I don't see it in top spot... It is number 4 overall and wow is still number 3 for all games.  So it is still trailing on minutes played but that isn't the key stat as any new game will have a real high number minute played relative to numbers of users.  The ratio yesterday for users is closer to 50% of wow which is still amazing compared to any other mmo game launch in history.

Here is the URL I look at http://www.xfire.com/genre/mmo/massively_multiplayer_online/

 

It was literally at the top spot last night.  The thing fluctuates throughout the day.

 

It hasn't hit #1 yet, if it had xfire would indicate it. Xfire tracks a games ranking. SWTOR hasn't gotten past #4. With that said, I'd like to remind you and others that according to some we cannot use xfire ad a way to measure how good a game is doing. In the past when I and others brought it up as a measure of a games health we were told we couldn't use it. Also anyone that uses xfire knows that new games always rank high at first. Rift hit pretty high at first, ad did many new MMORPG titles, then over a 3 month period the game declined. SWTOR may do the same.

I think all games spike up initially but thats what you would expect with a new game and the real measure of success is how it is doing after several months.  

But that aside it is still fun to watch to see if any game will pass wow in numbers.  Keep in mind that the primary stat xfire shows is how many hours xfire player play.  That number isn't the best to look at but if you click on the game it shows how many unique xfire users played the game in that day.  Thats a better number to compare since with a new game everyone tends to play a lot more than normal.

Originally posted by Vato26

Originally posted by Teala

Originally posted by Satarious

Originally posted by ethion

I don't see it in top spot... It is number 4 overall and wow is still number 3 for all games.  So it is still trailing on minutes played but that isn't the key stat as any new game will have a real high number minute played relative to numbers of users.  The ratio yesterday for users is closer to 50% of wow which is still amazing compared to any other mmo game launch in history.

Here is the URL I look at http://www.xfire.com/genre/mmo/massively_multiplayer_online/

 

It was literally at the top spot last night.  The thing fluctuates throughout the day.

 

It hasn't hit #1 yet, if it had xfire would indicate it. Xfire tracks a games ranking. SWTOR hasn't gotten past #4. With that said, I'd like to remind you and others that according to some we cannot use xfire ad a way to measure how good a game is doing. In the past when I and others brought it up as a measure of a games health we were told we couldn't use it. Also anyone that uses xfire knows that new games always rank high at first. Rift hit pretty high at first, ad did many new MMORPG titles, then over a 3 month period the game declined. SWTOR may do the same.

Exactly.  No one knows the percentage of the gaming population that actually uses xfire.  Therefore, using xfire figures for a basis of "statistics" to describe the total gaming population is beyond flawed and should be taken with a grain of salt.  However, usage of xfire figures as a basis to describe the xfire population is acceptable.

it isn't rocket science and it isn't going to give you any accurate measurements.   However if one assumes that the xfire user  population is randomly distributed amoung all MMO players then it will give you a relatively good measure of relative populations.  I think for games like MMOs thats reasonable.  Of course for small games the relative error likely increases.  

It probably isn't as reasonable for other games genres compared to mmos since xfire does offer some services that make it more useful to players playing peer to peer strategy type games.  Although I'm not sure how useful that is anymore since I don't play those types of games.

The top games right now from xfire are League of Legends, call of duty 4, wow, swtor.  These are the hours and number of players.

Name                                                        Hours    Players

As to what xfire is, it generally provides functionality like ventrilo without the need for a server.  So you can get your friends in xfire and setup a voice chat room to talk for free.  You can also do text chats.  upload pictures.  stream live video.  download patches automatically.  And of course track your game usage over time and have a cute xfire signature like mine ;)  It tends to integrate reasonably well with most games.  It runs in the backgrounds and starts when your computer does so it is generally always running.

Using xfire to provide any sort of statistical information is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of...  Do people even use that junk anymore?  Like seriously...

Originally posted by Sephros
Xfire. Lol.

I heard of Xfire somewhere...

Is it me or are the peaks during EA the same as the peaks since launch? Where is the influx of launch day players people speak of  and resulted in hour long queues?

Comparing the WoW numbers to the TOR numbers on XFire, I'd say that TOR very easily has 4.5 million players at the moment.

I think the only thing it would take for TOR to hit it out of the park right now is a new huge content/new game features update every month for the next three to four months and then regular large content updates every four to six months.

I don't use Xfire anymore since Aion, so Its really not that reliable since I know 7 other people that don't too. My brother, who took a week off just to try the game before we are preoccupied with the Holidays, spent so much time w/ the game w/o Xfire. Others are some of my friends that play the game and have zero knowledge of Xfire.

whatever the xfire number is triple it because yall xfire users are the minority