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  adamkoolkid2

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Joined: 12/15/11
Posts: 1

12/20/11 4:51:45 AM#101

Why is it every time a game is released some troll always has to say its a WoW copy? Point forr you WoW wasnt the first MMO to be released and not every game is a copy of it. Besides WoW kinda sucks ass anyways...its mediocre and just....terrible, so saying every game is a WoW copy is basically saying every game sucks ass.


 


Nuff Said.


  Norden

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Joined: 1/26/06
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Hexagonically challenged

12/20/11 5:37:19 AM#102

This branch is no longer bleeding, we reached rigor mortis...


Norden

  Puremallace

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12/20/11 8:42:35 AM#103



Originally posted by Antemortem



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



Thanks for the laugh.


2010 sucked.

2011 sucked.


I have hopes in GW2 and maybe TSW.

SWTOR, RIFT, WOW, EQ, EQ2, AOC, ETC, ETC ARE ALL THE SAME.


The genre is bleeding and I don't believe in it anymore.

 

Yet you are hyped for a game made by FUNCOM(lol) and launching pay to play with a cash shop from day 1?


Your idea of the future of the genre is completely flawed. Lets see GW2 do updates atleast once every 6 months because they sure as hell can't now if Guild Wars is any indication.


 


If TOR is the best rpg why is Rift even bothering with wedding for rp'rs?


http://forums.riftgame.com/lore-telara/role-play-forums/286811-rp-town-hall-wedding-feedback.html#post3478410



 

  Azzuritain

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Joined: 1/18/10
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12/20/11 2:38:57 PM#104

Good list. Not sure why some peeps think World of Tanks should have beat League of Legends when LoL is currently the LARGEST online game. When WoW dropped to around 10 mil active LoL was stated as having 11.5 mil active. Obviously they are doing something right if they are atracting that large portion of the market.


Also LoL does fit the description of an MMO. I believe that the hybrid description was most accurate though. I see that people seem to think that if it doesn't look like Everquest used to (or whatever popular mmo they started with) then it isn't an MMO. MMO is a description. In LoL you can interact with tons of people online all at the same time, but we don't have to put up with general spam.


Whether or not you think LoL is an MMO is pointless though as the term hybrid-mmo has yet to have a solid description set in place. You can argue it isn't an mmo, but hybrid-mmo might be a perfect description.


For those interested in game statistics, LoL's stats are here http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1495692


  Razeekster

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Joined: 7/09/11
Posts: 1881

May the game be ever in your favor.

12/20/11 2:49:08 PM#105

Another thing to add is that I'm pretty sure RIFT spammed emails the most heavily for people to vote for them. I got so many "Vote For Rift Best Game of 2011!" that I finally blocked RIFT's mailing address. Way to spam.


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  uncletoma

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Joined: 7/28/03
Posts: 158

12/20/11 5:07:20 PM#106

Originally posted by Razeekster

Another thing to add is that I'm pretty sure RIFT spammed emails the most heavily for people to vote for them. I got so many "Vote For Rift Best Game of 2011!" that I finally blocked RIFT's mailing address. Way to spam.





 


Those GOTYs aren't from readers but only from MMORPG.com


  wesleyarts

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Joined: 5/19/10
Posts: 58

12/20/11 6:36:40 PM#107

Originally posted by Razeekster

Another thing to add is that I'm pretty sure RIFT spammed emails the most heavily for people to vote for them. I got so many "Vote For Rift Best Game of 2011!" that I finally blocked RIFT's mailing address. Way to spam.





 


I m a Rift happy player and I got not spammed, neither my friends did. You accusation is totally a flaw.


  wesleyarts

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Joined: 5/19/10
Posts: 58

12/20/11 6:39:31 PM#108







Originally posted by Kyleran














Originally posted by Master10K


























Originally posted by ActionMMORPG



















Grats Trion.
















Question now becomes how to keep a playerbase happy enough to stay subscribed.

















Who knows. What I know is that my sub ran out this morning and I have no real desire to resub, having suffered through Rift's terrible PvP and grinded my way to RoS Raid content on 3 classes and HK on my main. I feel like I've done all that Rift has to offer and with my main's server going from High pop to Low pop in a matter of 2 months, means there's even less reason for me to return.









While Rift deserves its award, it's a shame that the year they win it appears they've never found a way to staunch the bleeding sub issue no matter how much they improve it.








Right now since most standard theme park MMO's are so similar there's really no reason for a person to not just try the next flavor of the month and then move on once the core content is consumed, especially if one is not a raider.








The era of MMORPG's holding people's attention for a year or more is probably long over.








 








 















 








IN 3 months from now people will be returning from SWTOR to Rift. I will be here to say "I told you so".











 




 

  Ozmodan

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Joined: 2/27/07
Posts: 6588

12/20/11 9:24:45 PM#109
Originally posted by Azzuritain

Good list. Not sure why some peeps think World of Tanks should have beat League of Legends when LoL is currently the LARGEST online game. When WoW dropped to around 10 mil active LoL was stated as having 11.5 mil active. Obviously they are doing something right if they are atracting that large portion of the market.


Also LoL does fit the description of an MMO. I believe that the hybrid description was most accurate though. I see that people seem to think that if it doesn't look like Everquest used to (or whatever popular mmo they started with) then it isn't an MMO. MMO is a description. In LoL you can interact with tons of people online all at the same time, but we don't have to put up with general spam.


Whether or not you think LoL is an MMO is pointless though as the term hybrid-mmo has yet to have a solid description set in place. You can argue it isn't an mmo, but hybrid-mmo might be a perfect description.


For those interested in game statistics, LoL's stats are here http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1495692

No avatar development in LOL hence it is NOT a MMO in any shape or form.

  mysticalspam

Novice Member

Joined: 8/20/10
Posts: 68

12/21/11 12:47:51 AM#110

 


 


sad this site is run by RIFT and SWTOR fanboys so of course they would win...








GW2 been #1 on hype list for long time SWTOR #3 most the time and they share the #1 spot for most anticipated game..... were supose to believe that? o.0




i demand a recount lol


  Aori

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Joined: 1/28/06
Posts: 1763

12/21/11 1:09:49 PM#111

Originally posted by Azzuritain

Good list. Not sure why some peeps think World of Tanks should have beat League of Legends when LoL is currently the LARGEST online game. When WoW dropped to around 10 mil active LoL was stated as having 11.5 mil active. Obviously they are doing something right if they are atracting that large portion of the market.




Also LoL does fit the description of an MMO. I believe that the hybrid description was most accurate though. I see that people seem to think that if it doesn't look like Everquest used to (or whatever popular mmo they started with) then it isn't an MMO. MMO is a description. In LoL you can interact with tons of people online all at the same time, but we don't have to put up with general spam.




Whether or not you think LoL is an MMO is pointless though as the term hybrid-mmo has yet to have a solid description set in place. You can argue it isn't an mmo, but hybrid-mmo might be a perfect description.




For those interested in game statistics, LoL's stats are here http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1495692





 


LoL does not fit any discription of MMO, you cannot have more than 10 players on any given map.  Every freaking FPS game released in the last 5 years has more MMO qualities than LoL.


Also the MMO market and MOBA market are two COMPLETELY different beasts. Refrain from comparing them.


LoL is only good if treated like a LAN game where you hook up with friends. Jumping in solo will usually leave you scrubbing your eyes by time you hit level 30 from the filth flung at you.


  Belgue

Novice Member

Joined: 9/04/05
Posts: 42

12/21/11 1:13:21 PM#112

Agree on every pick, well done MMORPG staffs.


  Aryas

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Joined: 1/21/08
Posts: 344

12/22/11 4:26:02 AM#113

I'd like to see a category for 'Biggest Loss of the Year', for games that were shut-down or the dev folded, despite being good. I think these games deserve recognition.


 


Sometimes these games disappear because of fundamental design flaws or other issues, which is fair enough. I think Chronicles of Spellbourne fell into this category a fews years back. I loved the basic ideas of the games but in many ways it was just too weird in terms of art direction, etc.


 


Late last year, Earth Eternal went offline as Sparkplay went bust (?). This for me was a tragedy as it was a damn good game that appeared to be thriving. It wasn't my regular haunt but I really enjoyed playing the game in certain situations (at work :), on trips, etc) when I didn't have a higher spec PC to hand. I think this game went in it's prime and if TurnOut Ventures are going to bring it back, they'd better get moving before it's too dated.


 


Next I think we'll see Vanguard put to sleep. SOE appears to be letting this one die a slow death and gradually letting it slip out of peoples memories. However, I think this is another wasted opportunity in MMO world.


 


Can't think of anything that died this year that I cared too much for, but I'm sure the MMORPG.com staff could name something.


 


Aryas


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  binary_0011

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Posts: 539

Use your common sense.

12/24/11 11:16:16 PM#114

LOL  ??


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  bestever

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Joined: 12/26/11
Posts: 569

12/26/11 6:46:36 PM#115

Lol to funny. All they rift haters out in full effect. I find rift to be one of the best mmo's in a longtime and sorry its better then swoter.


Played swoter long enough to know its not that good of a game and in no way does it get close to winning over rift.


Pvp in rift is one hell of a ride but when you get above T6 then its not as bad and I'm a warrior.


Rift has more to do in it then most mmo's and its not even a year old.


Grats to trion and Rift. Still playing it, love it and will play it for a longtime to come.


Rift earns this more then swoter any day of the week because they tried far harder then BW to make and innovate a mmo.


GFX=Rift


World=Rift 


group play and team work=Rift ten fold


So you can sit here saying swoter is better but I don't see it. GFX are nothing great (even on max)


The world is mhh and feels dead.


They all have the same game play but adding quest cut scenes doesn't make it any better and sorry that does not make it even close to being innovate, its just more of a mask.


oh and swoters pvp is mhh, I have far more fun playing rifts pvp.


So hate it all you want Rift is mmo of the year and even if swoter came out in time, they still wouldn't have won. Simply put rift has more to it then swoter, So its time to pick it up BW and make a good mmo for once.


Like someone said take the star wars out and you got a flop on your hands.


If swoter won, it would be a sad day in the life of mmo's. The better game won so all that would show is $$$$$$$ rules it all, Oh and if you have a IP named star wars.


  bestever

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Joined: 12/26/11
Posts: 569

12/26/11 6:51:43 PM#116

Originally posted by wesleyarts
















Originally posted by Kyleran































Originally posted by Master10K























































Originally posted by ActionMMORPG








































Grats Trion.
































Question now becomes how to keep a playerbase happy enough to stay subscribed.

































Who knows. What I know is that my sub ran out this morning and I have no real desire to resub, having suffered through Rift's terrible PvP and grinded my way to RoS Raid content on 3 classes and HK on my main. I feel like I've done all that Rift has to offer and with my main's server going from High pop to Low pop in a matter of 2 months, means there's even less reason for me to return.

















While Rift deserves its award, it's a shame that the year they win it appears they've never found a way to staunch the bleeding sub issue no matter how much they improve it.
















Right now since most standard theme park MMO's are so similar there's really no reason for a person to not just try the next flavor of the month and then move on once the core content is consumed, especially if one is not a raider.
















The era of MMORPG's holding people's attention for a year or more is probably long over.
















 
















 































 
















IN 3 months from now people will be returning from SWTOR to Rift. I will be here to say "I told you so".























 










 




 


Agree and I don't think its subs are droping as bad as they were. I've seen more and more people getting on and getting their 6month and one year sub achievement. So will see how it goes but I'll be playing rift for a longtime.


  troublmaker

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12/28/11 3:33:55 AM#117

I smell some foul play.  There were far more categories in previous years, many of them have evaporated and the open format for it has also changed.


I especially don't understand the comment "stellar sales record."  Do you really want to go there?  Rift gave out what 500,000 free copies on launch?  The game was offered for free during Black Friday.  According to Gamrreview Rift hasn't broken 500,000 sales yet.  I was offered a free month, I logged on and got my one year subscription reward... which at this point I have not paid a dime for the game.


The game is horribly bland and although you may want to reward the developers for trying to paint a bland room with a bland color over and over.... it's a nice sentiment for hard work but it's not going to be representative of quality.


If the award was "Developers of the Year" I'm sure more people would agree, but there are so many better MMOs out there.


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  Seduce1

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Joined: 12/28/11
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12/28/11 9:43:41 AM#118

{mod edit}


 


You listed only the first 10 weeks of sale.  No one has received 1 year rewards with out paying for it.  I found no information on the giving away of 500k in free copies.  Does the sales figures show digital downloads?  Appears to be in units, which would be copies sold to vendors.


{mod edit}


From a players point of view...


Rift Pros


1.  Soul System


2.  No flying mounts


3.  Difficult content


4.  Attunement instead of raising level cap


5.  World content with decent rewards


Rift Cons


1.  PvP has no viable end game (I'm first world R8 mage, second world R8)  No ranking system to keep people playing the game for the PvP.


2.  Changes made in patches that the desired affect is for PvP usually affects PvE in a negitive way.


3.  Shard Tranfers for entire guilds.  Has a huge impact on world events for PvP servers.  One Faction can control all the new world content.


4.  The much needed inscribed source stones can only be received from World Events, Instant action and rift quests.  Makes it difficult for Raiding guilds whom only want to raid the 20 man content.


I agree with the "Game of the Year" award. 


SW:tOR - Had many players in my guild get the game, play for almost two weeks, and returned to Rfit.  Biggest complaint Graphics, and laggyness with player input response.  Next complaint, appears the game has no viable endgame and that makes for a slow grind to the top to have nothing waiting for you once you get there (What happens whe you get there to fast, I don't consider it a viable complaint yet).  I haven't played, I've never enjoyed the sci-fi genre for mmorpgs.


When it comes to the population issue in Rift, I know some players that have quit the game, however I notice most of the population problems occur when Server Transfers take place.  Guilds chasing each othe around all the PvP servers.  Players traveling from guild to guild across servers.


 


 


  bestever

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12/28/11 12:06:12 PM#119



Originally posted by troublmaker



I smell some foul play.  There were far more categories in previous years, many of them have evaporated and the open format for it has also changed.








I especially don't understand the comment "stellar sales record."  Do you really want to go there?  Rift gave out what 500,000 free copies on launch?  The game was offered for free during Black Friday.  According to Gamrreview Rift hasn't broken 500,000 sales yet.  I was offered a free month, I logged on and got my one year subscription reward... which at this point I have not paid a dime for the game.








The game is horribly bland and although you may want to reward the developers for trying to paint a bland room with a bland color over and over.... it's a nice sentiment for hard work but it's not going to be representative of quality.








If the award was "Developers of the Year" I'm sure more people would agree, but there are so many better MMOs out there.











 








Lol love when someone trys to make dumb crap up. Yeah you got a year SUB achievement for not even subing makes a lot of since. My friend got 3 days free for the password change and guess what he couldn't even use it till he re-subed and guess what when he re=subed he only got his 3 month achievement. So yeah keep the far from the truth crap to yourself.





I would really like to know what mmo is better?  Not wow and its static world thats forsure. They may still hold the most subs and be king but that because people have a lifetime invested in that game and can understand why they don't walk away. So whats this better mmo?

  bestever

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12/28/11 12:10:00 PM#120

Hey whats this better MMO been looking forever and nothing has done better then Rift. So when you find this mmo let me know.





 

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