Originally posted by Relentless02

Let me illustrate my point a little better, looking at Star Wars after being exposed to more modern Sci-Fi is kind of like looking at a Camry from the 70's right next to the newer 2012 model, they function the same way but one definitely LOOKS older. you can't be like "Oh they look the same." because they don't and I think majority of people if they were given a choice between the two they would choose the 2012 because it looks better.

 

PS. I have no other issues with Star Wars I too enjoy it from time to time and I think I might buy this game I just find it dificult to get immersed because it looks like it was made in the 70's and it was.

Arguing that any style or aesthetic is "outdated" is silly.

Retro sci-fi 50s look isn't outdated, its just different.

What I would have given if for example Star Trek 2009 would have used the old TOS sets instead of the lens-flare/chrome garbage.

Its a question of preference. Its not "dated". You just don't like it.

If i wanted to make a buddy-cop movie reminiscent of the 80s, id use an earlier 70s camry, not a 2012 one, even if its set in present day.

Originally posted by citan79

Soooo  you expect a story that starts with the line  "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...." and you expect it to look more futuristic than now???  Does that even make sense??   It happened a long time ago..... so it should look dated... it's like viewing a society which was advanced that existed a long time ago.... 

I mean really?? you are going to open with this...

starwars is a fantasy story like a knights wizard story.. with technology udated from horses carriages and metal swords.. added ligth swords, lazers space ships and aliens.  

 

when i first saw star wars i was like wow a long time ago they had some pretty cool stuff.. when we get advance it is going to look way better..... minus the magic stuff.  ie force.

It doesen't matter when it happened what matters is how long the society has had to advance their technology, the argument that it looks old is because it was "a long long time ago" makes no sense since that society has had milenia to advance. But we're arguing semantics right now of a made up society. Im not arguing what the poeple in the Star Wars universe are doing im arguing what the people that made the Star Wars movies did at their time, but honestly I think it would be pointless to comtinue to debate this because anything made 30 years ago will always look dated by modern standards.

Originally posted by Relentless02

Now I am about to say some things which people might consider trolling but I assure you I am not, just pointing out something that turns me off to the entire Star Wars universe. Star Wars was made way back in the 70s and it's visual concept of what is futurisitc is kind of dated by today's standards. Now I know Star Wars is not the future but a galaxy far far away but you get what I mean. These days I would consider Mass Effect futuristic in it's visual style. The fact Star Wars looks so dated makes it dificult to enjoy anything from that universe including this game. Anybody else feel this way or am I just wierd?

Nah your right on. Big part of the reason I'm not playing TOR is because of the world itself. I've no interest in playing a jedi or any of the odd looking characters in the game. We're way past the Star Wars phase but of course Bioware picked it to bring in the cash. EA and Biowares actions are see through...its no wonder both companys are rolling in bling

Originally posted by Relentless02

Now I am about to say some things which people might consider trolling but I assure you I am not, just pointing out something that turns me off to the entire Star Wars universe. Star Wars was made way back in the 70s and it's visual concept of what is futurisitc is kind of dated by today's standards. Now I know Star Wars is not the future but a galaxy far far away but you get what I mean. These days I would consider Mass Effect futuristic in it's visual style. The fact Star Wars looks so dated makes it dificult to enjoy anything from that universe including this game. Anybody else feel this way or am I just wierd?

Well yeah the technology concepts are dated, a lot of things in the originals were based off of burgeoning physics concepts at the time.  The idea of plasma being a viable form of projectile weaponry - presumably the technology behind blasters, seeing as they are fueled by Tibanna gas - has since been found to be largely impractical, particularly in space where physical projectiles are preferable.  Ion engines (TIE fighter propulsion) was thought of back then to be the next big thing.  Come to find out that it is only useful for incredibly long, sustained trips that don't require a lot of speed or maneuverability, because the force produced by the ionization reaction is very low.

There are a number of others that I can't think of at the moment, but the specifics on the impracticality of lightsabers is another one.  That doesn't detract from the universe though, it is still a fun fantasy world with a lot of room for flavoring.

While I'm not a fan of SWTOR, I don't know how logical a complaint this is. You can't have a dated concept of something that was never real to begin with, the game is based on a story which was based on an idea of future technology at the time. If they re-engineered the entire Star Wars world to fit into modern ideals of future technology, fans of the IP would be bitching up a storm, and they would be justified in that. They're not going by what actually is, they're going by a fantasy world that was pulled out of someone's ass. "Dated" is not a concept that fits here.

You are right that it is dated, but I like it. I like retro sci-fi like Star Wars and Dune. It might not be everyone's cup of tea, but it is a distinct visual and thematic style.

Suprised at how others are struggling with the concept behind the OP's observation. SciFi is a guess at what could be, influenced by the culture, beliefs and technology of the author. Aesthetics is a different matter, a futuristic artist may do some concept work and the author follows that.  I think the OP was talking about the former which wasn't an attack on the game merely an observation about using an old IP for a modern game.

Originally posted by gaeanprayer

While I'm not a fan of SWTOR, I don't know how logical a complaint this is. You can't have a dated concept of something that was never real to begin with, the game is based on a story which was based on an idea of future technology at the time. If they re-engineered the entire Star Wars world to fit into modern ideals of future technology, fans of the IP would be bitching up a storm, and they would be justified in that. They're not going by what actually is, they're going by a fantasy world that was pulled out of someone's ass. "Dated" is not a concept that fits here.

They kind of already did re-engineer it to fit in with modern ideals of future technology, they just had the craftiness to change it enough so that the vast majority of Star Wars fans wouldn't notice, and (most of) those that did wouldn't take offense to it.  That has always been my impression of Mass Effect: the storytelling feel of Star Wars, with the aesthetics of Blade Runner, and a modern interpretation of what technology would be like in the future.

Discounting the glaring fantasy elements like Eezo of course, and the assumption that humanity will actually endure to ~2150.

I have frankly no idea what the OP is talking about.

Star Wars is fantasy sf, or space opera. Not even theoretically it is supposed to be a realistic view of our future.

And SW isnt more "retro" than any other SF and SF-like material I know : Star Trek, Babylon 5, Battlestar Galactica, Firefly, Farscape, The Matrix, maybe even Terminator, Stargate ... each of them is very different and, in their way, unrealistic.

I havent played Mass Effect (too shooter-like, I'm a roleplayer), so I dont know about that one, but what little I know of it isnt substantly different.

Nobody for example has forseen the internet before it was there. In that respect, many current time material is already more futuristic than older series.

Originally posted by citan79

Soooo  you expect a story that starts with the line  "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...." and you expect it to look more futuristic than now??? 

Y'know I never actually thought about that. LOL!