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  wowfan1996

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12/17/11 10:13:03 PM#21


Originally posted by wormywyrm
If it makes you feel any better, SWTOR and Rift share a similar fate, the fate of LOTRO and NGE SWG and any other MMO that sought after the casual gamer base.  But these games can survive as LOTRO has shown it is doing well :-)


BTW, according to XFire LoTRO, unlike other MMOs, wasn't affected by SW:TOR release at all.

P.S. I really hope that SW:TOR will go the way of dinosaurs. The sooner, the better.

MMORPG genre is dead. Long live MMOCS (Massively Multiplayer Online Cash Shop).

  Acidon

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12/17/11 10:20:11 PM#22
Originally posted by BACONX

Doom and gloom abound about rift (a lot of it justified) but I just wanted to throw in my positive opinion of the game in this huge, swirling storm of "The end is nigh" chatter. I still like you Rift and I will still play you until the pop dries up. True, instant adventures and the fae yule crap may not have been the best thing to put up against a TOR release but I'll still stick by you, for now. Hopefully enough people stick by as well so that server merges won't happen too quickly. I just wanted to voice my support for Trion and their game that I still like.

I know, time to put my body armour on...incoming!

 

Yeah i'm with ya.  Want to know something interesting?  I know 99.9% said no.  But I don't care.  Rift is the first game since DAoC (and EQ preceding that) to hook me longer than a month, maybe two. 

I've been playing rift since the betas and then headstart.  I'm thoroughly enjoying myself and there seems to be no end in sight for me. 

I was beginning to think I would be on a never-ending road of trying out former MMOs again, leaving, trying the next one again, leaving, etc.

Thier CS is top-notch in the industry.  They push out quality content at an amazing rate.  They fix problems very quickly.  They listen to their fan-base (not the whining minority). 

For me, and my play-style, I can't see anything taking me away.  Except of course, WoD .... I'd leave for WoD even if it meant leaving <insert hot female actress> at the same time.

Point is, I love Rift.  People can dog it all they want.  I really don't care.  I'm in it for the long haul.

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  Acidon

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12/17/11 10:25:44 PM#23
Originally posted by vesavius
Originally posted by BACONX

Doom and gloom abound about rift (a lot of it justified) but I just wanted to throw in my positive opinion of the game in this huge, swirling storm of "The end is nigh" chatter. I still like you Rift and I will still play you until the pop dries up. True, instant adventures and the fae yule crap may not have been the best thing to put up against a TOR release but I'll still stick by you, for now. Hopefully enough people stick by as well so that server merges won't happen too quickly. I just wanted to voice my support for Trion and their game that I still like.

I know, time to put my body armour on...incoming!

 

Stay true to what YOU like, don't get swept along with mindless hype, see short term excitement as the blip it is.

Your doing it right :)

 

Just had to say that's one of the wisest comments I have seen on these forums.  I can only hope it was sincere, i can't really tell these days (no offense meant).  He is, indeed, doing it right.  A lot goes along with that.  I am doing it right as well.  I got off -track for a couple-few years, but I grounded myself and things have never been better between me and MMO gaming.

Anyway. =)

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  Mythios11

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12/17/11 10:31:32 PM#24

I definitely support Trion and think that their approach to development should be a lesson to all publishers, however, the time has come to seriously raise the bar for the MMO genre and unfortunately, Rift will seem very obsolete once players experience SWTOR.

  Puremallace

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12/17/11 10:38:05 PM#25
Originally posted by Mythios11

I definitely support Trion and think that their approach to development should be a lesson to all publishers, however, the time has come to seriously raise the bar for the MMO genre and unfortunately, Rift will seem very obsolete once players experience SWTOR.

Unfortunately this list is going to keep growing

 

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=43267

 

Add vendor buy back button to that list. As entertainment(there is a lot of it on TOR forums) I have been watching just to see exactly what Rift was expected to launch with compared to TOR. Also add grace period in queue times. Trion solved this issue in less then a day after launch.

 

Lets just say TOR is winning the story/big world race, but losing very badly everywhere else.

  User Deleted
12/17/11 10:42:10 PM#26
Originally posted by wormywyrm

If it makes you feel any better, SWTOR and Rift share a similar fate, the fate of LOTRO and NGE SWG and any other MMO that sought after the casual gamer base.  But these games can survive as LOTRO has shown it is doing well :-)

Yeah. LOTRO is what im playing again. I played RIft for about 6 weeks and its not a bad game, but for me, LOTRO is better. WOW is no longer an option and I have no interest in TOR right now. Maybe when the offer a trial or it goes F2P.

  Puremallace

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12/17/11 10:46:48 PM#27
Originally posted by Rusty715
 

Yeah. LOTRO is what im playing again. I played RIft for about 6 weeks and its not a bad game, but for me, LOTRO is better. WOW is no longer an option and I have no interest in TOR right now. Maybe when the offer a trial or it goes F2P.

Yeah with oh so great patches like Isengard yeah I am so envious of you guys. LOTR proves that the virus that is Free to play does not work in the United States and will result in sub par content releases exactly like it did in Korea.

 

In my view it is simply a payment model that does not work. Although I could imagine a Rift F2P announcement would devsatate WoW's sub number more then anything TOR could do. LOTR went f2p for a reason. People are almost trying to force Rift to go into a payment model it was never designed for.

 

If it does go F2P then monthly content updates will go away without a doubt. TOR for sure no chance in hell can ever support F2P because of the voice acting and production team required. F2P is not some magical solution.

 

 

  User Deleted
12/17/11 10:53:06 PM#28
Originally posted by Puremallace
Originally posted by Rusty715
 

Yeah. LOTRO is what im playing again. I played RIft for about 6 weeks and its not a bad game, but for me, LOTRO is better. WOW is no longer an option and I have no interest in TOR right now. Maybe when the offer a trial or it goes F2P.

Yeah with oh so great patches like Isengard yeah I am so envious of you guys. LOTR proves that the virus that is Free to play does not work in the United States and will result in sub par content releases exactly like it did in Korea.

 

In my view it is simply a payment model that does not work. Although I could imagine a Rift F2P announcement would devsatate WoW's sub number more then anything TOR could do. LOTR went f2p for a reason. People are almost trying to force Rift to go into a payment model it was never designed for.

 

If it does go F2P then monthly content updates will go away without a doubt. TOR for sure no chance in hell can ever support F2P because of the voice acting and production team required. F2P is not some magical solution.

 

 

Could I ask what game you are playing?

  asyndeton

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12/17/11 10:53:27 PM#29
Originally posted by wowfan1996

 



Originally posted by maddhatter44
(raid finder) ... ruining the genre.



...because it's fun to spam LFG macros for hours, especially when you don't get a full group in the end.
 
/facepalm

 

because dungeon finder tools always make successful balanced groups with people who care enought to stick around longer than 10 minutes...

  Cik_Asalin

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12/17/11 10:59:22 PM#30
Originally posted by wormywyrm

If it makes you feel any better, SWTOR and Rift share a similar fate, the fate of LOTRO and NGE SWG and any other MMO that sought after the casual gamer base.  But these games can survive as LOTRO has shown it is doing well :-)

There is something to be acknowledged here.  Rift is by far a more superior massively-multiplayer game that encourages community involvement and commeraderie around an open environment effect with their game-play features.  That while TOR is undoubtedly a single-player game with a multi-user component for cooperative small-party instanced play with a rich cinematic feature.

 

Neither game is going to die, however, the casual gamer community should be rejoicing with what they have access to, while we've watched 60-70% of the remaining subscriber base leave said games 3-6 months post launch out of sheer boredom and bewilderment as to why their paying $15/month for something so rudimentary.

  Puremallace

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12/17/11 10:59:44 PM#31
Originally posted by Rusty715

Could I ask what game you are playing?

Rift.

 

My only big thing against F2P is I saw the type of market dilution it caused in Korea with one terrible game after another. ONLYYYYY way Rift could ever even consider it would be with a hybrid model like AoE, but in AoC you can buy gear out of their cash shop which is like the worst thing possible.

 

The big thing of Rift is we give them 15$ a month and they give us content basically every month and not just fluff. No other dev can claim that. F2P that goes away and it turns into 4...5...6...7 months for new content??

 

In my opinion next logical step for Rift is to drop the next raid and Planetouched wilds which was already in production, so that is like 1.7 and 1.8. Then just throw housing out there, but do it right. Make every other mmo on the market envious of the housing system that you make.

  User Deleted
12/17/11 11:09:09 PM#32
Originally posted by Puremallace
Originally posted by Rusty715

Could I ask what game you are playing?

Rift.

 

My only big thing against F2P is I saw the type of market dilution it caused in Korea with one terrible game after another. ONLYYYYY way Rift could ever even consider it would be with a hybrid model like AoE, but in AoC you can buy gear out of their cash shop which is like the worst thing possible.

 

The big thing of Rift is we give them 15$ a month and they give us content basically every month and not just fluff. No other dev can claim that. F2P that goes away and it turns into 4...5...6...7 months for new content??

 

In my opinion next logical step for Rift is to drop the next raid and Planetouched wilds which was already in production, so that is like 1.7 and 1.8. Then just throw housing out there, but do it right. Make every other mmo on the market envious of the housing system that you make.

LOTRO offers a lot of variety in leveling 1-50. I have an alt that is level 46 and seeing places my main didnt. Of course after I reach Moria I will be covering the same ground which is the nature of expansions but its the best MMO for me that ive found. EQ2, WOW, Rift, AOC, DDO, Warhammer, Aion (beta) STO, ive seen them all and LOTRO is what I like. Best community ive found too although I will say Rift has a good community as does EQ2, at least before F2P.

  Puremallace

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12/17/11 11:19:02 PM#33
Originally posted by Rusty715

LOTRO offers a lot of variety in leveling 1-50. I have an alt that is level 46 and seeing places my main didnt. Of course after I reach Moria I will be covering the same ground which is the nature of expansions but its the best MMO for me that ive found. EQ2, WOW, Rift, AOC, DDO, Warhammer, Aion (beta) STO, ive seen them all and LOTRO is what I like. Best community ive found too although I will say Rift has a good community as does EQ2, at least before F2P.

Rift is a bit of a different animal. I looked at the LOTR model. I guess Rift coulddddd possibly do it, but what do they charge for? ok Maelforge raid is coming up pretty soon do they charge for that to be able to enter it?

 

Rift is much much closer to WoW then LOTR. It would have to go like EQ2 possibly which would be a hybird.

 

  wowfan1996

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12/17/11 11:58:31 PM#34



Originally posted by asyndeton
because dungeon finder tools always make successful balanced groups with people who care enought to stick around longer than 10 minutes...


I'll rather take my chances, thanks. Never takes long to see that a group is bad. On the other hand chat-based LFG is a tremendous waste of time and you can end up in a bad group anyway.

MMORPG genre is dead. Long live MMOCS (Massively Multiplayer Online Cash Shop).

  MurlockDance

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12/20/11 4:31:29 AM#35

Ah, I feel bad now. I do like Rift, quite a bit. I played it for 4 months a month after release and enjoyed it a lot. I still prefer EQ2 and WoW so I am not playing Rift at the moment. If I had more money and time I would give Trion support for the good job they are doing and have done.

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