Yes, they are not dead.  

Only the people I murder in UO are dead ;)))

Originally posted by jairus

Originally posted by rrashintoast

MMORPGS are not dead, 

 (*goes back to playing UO cus its Still the only Good online rpg out)

 

your playing mmorpg from 1997 and your saying mmorpgs aren't dead?

UO was my first MMO and i think MMO genre is doing great and is alive and kicking. I will enjoy every MMO that is to release 2012 and beyond.

Originally posted by Supersoups

Originally posted by jairus

Originally posted by rrashintoast

MMORPGS are not dead, 

 (*goes back to playing UO cus its Still the only Good online rpg out)

 

your playing mmorpg from 1997 and your saying mmorpgs aren't dead?

UO was my first MMO and i think MMO genre is doing great and is alive and kicking. I will enjoy every MMO that is to release 2012 and beyond.

same man, I like em all.

 Even WoW. :P    (tho i think they need more Real physics like Vindictus n such.)

Originally posted by Supersoups

Originally posted by PukeBucket

Well OP like you I appreciate what World of Warcraft was and did for the genre.

I'm also disappointed that developers only put any real effort into this ONE bland and over done style.

It's like beer. People think of fizzy yellow piss water in general as beer. Yeah Bud Light is pretty ubiquitous and yeah it's beer.

But why not try an IPA? Or a different style of stout? Why not just order a Guinness every once and a while. "Well it doesn't look like beer." It's beer too, just done in a different style.

SWTOR just changed the label and presented it in a clear glass bottle rather than a dark one.

What gets me, and makes me sad that most humans can breed, is the fact that there's fools who say "this iz so mech better dan WoWs" rather than saying "I enjoy WoW style game play in a Star Wars setting."

That I can handle. Admit it, and that's it.

So let me guess if someone finds SWTOR to be different than WOW and better... he is a fool and shouldn't breed? that is borderline flaming there. But can't accept much from an individual who likes to associate himself with 'puke'. 

It's not like that. There's a reason why he phrased it in noob lingo.

"I find SWTOR more enjoyable than WoW"

"I like SWTOR better than WoW"

"SWTOR is better than WoW"

"SWTOR is sooo much better than the crap that is WoW"

It's easier to accept the first three but the last one screams of foolishness/brainwashing. With the two games playing almost the same I couldn't understand the people who disses WoW so badly but praises SWTOR.

Originally posted by KhinRunite

Originally posted by Supersoups

Originally posted by PukeBucket

Well OP like you I appreciate what World of Warcraft was and did for the genre.

I'm also disappointed that developers only put any real effort into this ONE bland and over done style.

It's like beer. People think of fizzy yellow piss water in general as beer. Yeah Bud Light is pretty ubiquitous and yeah it's beer.

But why not try an IPA? Or a different style of stout? Why not just order a Guinness every once and a while. "Well it doesn't look like beer." It's beer too, just done in a different style.

SWTOR just changed the label and presented it in a clear glass bottle rather than a dark one.

What gets me, and makes me sad that most humans can breed, is the fact that there's fools who say "this iz so mech better dan WoWs" rather than saying "I enjoy WoW style game play in a Star Wars setting."

That I can handle. Admit it, and that's it.

So let me guess if someone finds SWTOR to be different than WOW and better... he is a fool and shouldn't breed? that is borderline flaming there. But can't accept much from an individual who likes to associate himself with 'puke'. 

It's not like that. There's a reason why he phrased it in noob lingo.

"I find SWTOR more enjoyable than WoW"

"I like SWTOR better than WoW"

"SWTOR is better than WoW"

"SWTOR is sooo much better than the crap that is WoW"

It's easier to accept the first three but the last one screams of foolishness/brainwashing. With the two games playing almost the same I couldn't understand the people who disses WoW so badly but praises SWTOR.

Two games playing the same necessarily doesn't mean they are the same. What i find foolish and brainwashing is that SWTOR has a lot of features to distance itself from WOW but people conveniently ignore that and only focus on what is similar.

However, thanks for coming to his defence even though his post was one giant flame bait.

There isn't much use for the 'other' people in an MMO anymore... other than to fill your Instance Queue or be window dressing bunny hopping around the town.

The main purpose of the MMO model is to be able to charge you an additional $15/mo.

Hopeful that the success of Minecraft and maybe a truly massive game like Planetside 2 claims to be, will lead some developers off in a new direction and actually try and innovate vs. just slapping a new coat of paint on the same game we've been playing since WoW arrived.

Originally posted by PukeBucket

Well OP like you I appreciate what World of Warcraft was and did for the genre.

I'm also disappointed that developers only put any real effort into this ONE bland and over done style.

It's like beer. People think of fizzy yellow piss water in general as beer. Yeah Bud Light is pretty ubiquitous and yeah it's beer.

But why not try an IPA? Or a different style of stout? Why not just order a Guinness every once and a while. "Well it doesn't look like beer." It's beer too, just done in a different style.

SWTOR just changed the label and presented it in a clear glass bottle rather than a dark one.

What gets me, and makes me sad that most humans can breed, is the fact that there's fools who say "this iz so mech better dan WoWs" rather than saying "I enjoy WoW style game play in a Star Wars setting."

That I can handle. Admit it, and that's it.

i agree with your point but damn am i thirsty now hehehe

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Originally posted by Supersoups

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Originally posted by KhinRunite

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Originally posted by Supersoups

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Originally posted by PukeBucket

Well OP like you I appreciate what World of Warcraft was and did for the genre.
I'm also disappointed that developers only put any real effort into this ONE bland and over done style.
It's like beer. People think of fizzy yellow piss water in general as beer. Yeah Bud Light is pretty ubiquitous and yeah it's beer.
But why not try an IPA? Or a different style of stout? Why not just order a Guinness every once and a while. "Well it doesn't look like beer." It's beer too, just done in a different style.
SWTOR just changed the label and presented it in a clear glass bottle rather than a dark one.
What gets me, and makes me sad that most humans can breed, is the fact that there's fools who say "this iz so mech better dan WoWs" rather than saying "I enjoy WoW style game play in a Star Wars setting."
That I can handle. Admit it, and that's it.

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So let me guess if someone finds SWTOR to be different than WOW and better... he is a fool and shouldn't breed? that is borderline flaming there. But can't accept much from an individual who likes to associate himself with 'puke'. 

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It's not like that. There's a reason why he phrased it in noob lingo.
"I find SWTOR more enjoyable than WoW"
"I like SWTOR better than WoW"
"SWTOR is better than WoW"
"SWTOR is sooo much better than the crap that is WoW"
It's easier to accept the first three but the last one screams of foolishness/brainwashing. With the two games playing almost the same I couldn't understand the people who disses WoW so badly but praises SWTOR.

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Two games playing the same necessarily doesn't mean they are the same. What i find foolish and brainwashing is that SWTOR has a lot of features to distance itself from WOW but people conveniently ignore that and only focus on what is similar.
However, thanks for coming to his defence even though his post was one giant flame bait.

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Okay "soup", I'm certain your dignified name and butt hurt opinions matter more so than the obvious blaring truth.

Sandbox mmorpgs are cool in theory, but the problem is that the devs (and a vocal part of the sandbox loving playerbase) want a sandbox game to be "hardcore".

Unfortunately what you fail to realize is that UO did well because it was like the only major MMORPG for while.  You can't keep going back to the arguement that UO WAS SUCCESSFUL WE SHOULD HAVE A GAME LIKE IT AGAIN!!!  If you release a pretty UO now a days I'd predict a vanguard style flop.

Vanilla is awesome till you realize there are other flavors.

WoW and SWTOR are just the generation of MMO's out now, the 3rd and future 4th/5th generation is on the Horizon, when the bulk of houses will have FTTH 100MB/s : servers will be 100.000 x "more servery liak", no GCD look at Tera and see a glimpse of what the next MMO will look like Oops and GW2 ofc. 

Originally posted by PukeBucket

 

Okay "soup", I'm certain your dignified name and butt hurt opinions matter more so than the obvious blaring truth.

Yeah you are such a shining torch of obvious truth and dignity..Mr. puke. I am not even arguing. 

When I quit WoW cause I couldn't take it anymore, I would always say, how can 10 million people like this game. Well, it wasn't because the game sucked that I quit, but rather the community. So, just like WoW is still a good game, SWTOR is as well, despite what we all think. Rift is another example of not knowing whats popular, cause I didn't care for it, but how many people are playing that one? 2-3 million?

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Originally posted by Angier2758
 
Sandbox mmorpgs are cool in theory, but the problem is that the devs (and a vocal part of the sandbox loving playerbase) want a sandbox game to be "hardcore".
 
 
Unfortunately what you fail to realize is that UO did well because it was like the only major MMORPG for while.  You can't keep going back to the arguement that UO WAS SUCCESSFUL WE SHOULD HAVE A GAME LIKE IT AGAIN!!!  If you release a pretty UO now a days I'd predict a vanguard style flop.
 
Vanilla is awesome till you realize there are other flavors.

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Well you covered chocolate and vanilla, why just a dichotomy? I mean I realize MMORPGs over all are young. What we're calling gen 2.5 will be apart of the alpha wave in the future I'm certain.

But praising these games that just follow someone else's success is pointless.

I'd play TOR if it were a buy to play game. Just because there is a a good Star Wars story to be told.

15 bucks a month for a mediocre MMORPG clone? That's too generous for a lack of innovation.

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Originally posted by Supersoups

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Originally posted by PukeBucket
 

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Okay "soup", I'm certain your dignified name and butt hurt opinions matter more so than the obvious blaring truth.

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Yeah you are such a shining torch of obvious truth and dignity..Mr. puke. I am not even arguing. 

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Exactly, you're being soup. Water that's been slightly flavored by something more worthwhile. So contribute or quit trolling.

Originally posted by PukeBucket

 

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OExactly, you're being soup. Water that's been slightly flavored by something more worthwhile. So contribute or quit trolling.

If by contribution you mean generalising and insulting people for enjoying something you don't..i rather not. 

Soup over Puke any day though ;)

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Originally posted by CityHam
WoW and SWTOR are just the generation of MMO's out now, the 3rd and future 4th/5th generation is on the Horizon, when the bulk of houses will have FTTH 100MB/s : servers will be 100.000 x "more servery liak", no GCD look at Tera and see a glimpse of what the next MMO will look like Oops and GW2 ofc. 

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Three dimensional server RAM is coming along as well and it'll make all the MMO-action games that much sweeter because it offers a 100x upgrade.

http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2011/12/ibm-racetrack/

IBM's the only one moving hardware configuration to make it at the moment. And it's all industry side and will be for awhile.

But 12 channel chips and stacked memory will finally make servers that can do what we're wanting them to do.

Dramaqueens

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Originally posted by Supersoups

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Originally posted by PukeBucket
 

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OExactly, you're being soup. Water that's been slightly flavored by something more worthwhile. So contribute or quit trolling.

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If by contribution you mean generalising and insulting people for enjoying something you don't..i rather not. 
Soup over Puke any day though ;)

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You're brothy at best.

Originally posted by PukeBucket

 

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Originally posted by Angier2758
 
Sandbox mmorpgs are cool in theory, but the problem is that the devs (and a vocal part of the sandbox loving playerbase) want a sandbox game to be "hardcore".
 
 
Unfortunately what you fail to realize is that UO did well because it was like the only major MMORPG for while.  You can't keep going back to the arguement that UO WAS SUCCESSFUL WE SHOULD HAVE A GAME LIKE IT AGAIN!!!  If you release a pretty UO now a days I'd predict a vanguard style flop.
 
Vanilla is awesome till you realize there are other flavors.

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Well you covered chocolate and vanilla, why just a dichotomy? I mean I realize MMORPGs over all are young. What we're calling gen 2.5 will be apart of the alpha wave in the future I'm certain.

But praising these games that just follow someone else's success is pointless.

I'd play TOR if it were a buy to play game. Just because there is a a good Star Wars story to be told.

15 bucks a month for a mediocre MMORPG clone? That's too generous for a lack of innovation.

 

That's your opinion... *shrug*  I happen to think it's fun and fairly polished.  Is it everything I want out of an MMORPG?  No... and there will never be one till I incorporate my own dev studio and make my own.

Originally posted by PukeBucket

 

 

You're brothy at best.

zzzzzzzz