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  scotty899

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12/13/11 4:47:48 PM#181

i will laugh soooo much if that 5 buck deposit was just a scam and yas dont get to play at all AHAHAHAHAH.

  adam_nox

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12/13/11 4:48:31 PM#182
Originally posted by Cthulhu23
Originally posted by Badgered86


Imagine if any other game launched but didn't allow everyone who purchased the game to log in on day one.  People would be raging and gaming media would be all over it.  That's exactly what is happening here, except many gamers and media outlets are buying it hook, line, and sinker because they've used marketing lingo to cover up what they're really doing.

Think critically.  We're being played.

Rift had pre-order early access too, they just didn't stagger it.  And they had unbelievably long queue times and a lot of pissed off people.  

I'm fine with the way they are doing it, as long as people aren't being let in the day before actual launch.

 

 

a queue is at least the ability to eventually play.  this is nothing...

  BizkitNL

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12/13/11 4:54:55 PM#183

I don't think you would be any happier with hours of waiting time or the servers crashing.

That said, they announced an early start of UP TO 5 days (Now 7), so basically they didn't trick anyone. You must have assumed you would get the max amount of days for some reason.

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  youngkg

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12/13/11 5:00:42 PM#184

7 days imo is 2 much time for a head start anyway...

 

considering that bioware is already trying to fix 2 servers that already went down tells me bioware made the right move, Imagine if they didnt... all preoders would be on here giving it a death sentence because the servers are down.

 

  Golomin

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12/13/11 5:08:28 PM#185

[Mod Edit]

  1. You preorder the product.
  2. You will gain preorder bonuses (a lot of games do this)
Problem is: You did not receive the bonsues when you preordered.
 
What is to not understand here? The company gains many benefits from people preordering, and that is why they give you bonsues for doing so.
 
The company is in the wrong for disallowing the customers from accessing their bonus content. The only way to make up for this is to add an additional one week to each player's month that did not get access. I'd be pissed if I didn't get any of my preorder bonsuses too!
 
The people who sides with this unethical movement are either kids and/or people who have access to the game. There's just no logical proof or explanation for such an action.
 
Thanks to EA it's hell trying to rent or buy a used game since they charge an additional $10 for anyone trying to access the online play (we're talking consoles here).
  Doomedfox

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12/13/11 5:12:01 PM#186
Originally posted by Badgered86
Originally posted by Cthulhu23
Originally posted by Badgered86


Imagine if any other game launched but didn't allow everyone who purchased the game to log in on day one.  People would be raging and gaming media would be all over it.  That's exactly what is happening here, except many gamers and media outlets are buying it hook, line, and sinker because they've used marketing lingo to cover up what they're really doing.

Think critically.  We're being played.

Rift had pre-order early access too, they just didn't stagger it.  And they had unbelievably long queue times and a lot of pissed off people.  

I'm fine with the way they are doing it, as long as people aren't being let in the day before actual launch.

 

 

The game has officially launched by their own words.  There was a cut-off point with Rift where you couldn't get into early access IIRC.  You can buy the game from Origin right now and get a "pre-order" code.  This is all just marketing covering up a staggered access launch.

So since its launched already i supose my 30 free days are ticking away already??

Oh no wait i didnt even activate the actuall game launch code that comes with the game in the  package so i suppose my 30 days are save for now....but you just said it is launched already so now i am confused....oh well w/e guess its just another worthless post the what now 100s of this kind today?? lol 

  BarryManilow

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12/13/11 5:14:39 PM#187
Originally posted by Cthulhu23
Originally posted by Badgered86


Imagine if any other game launched but didn't allow everyone who purchased the game to log in on day one.  People would be raging and gaming media would be all over it.  That's exactly what is happening here, except many gamers and media outlets are buying it hook, line, and sinker because they've used marketing lingo to cover up what they're really doing.

Think critically.  We're being played.

Rift had pre-order early access too, they just didn't stagger it.  And they had unbelievably long queue times and a lot of pissed off people.  

I'm fine with the way they are doing it, as long as people aren't being let in the day before actual launch.

 

 

Really long queues?  Jeez I don't remember any queues personally.  I just joined a low/med server and only encounter 1 or 2 queues total all of early access. 

  dubyahite

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12/13/11 5:14:55 PM#188
The difference between launch an this EGA is that you can cancel your pre-order right now and still play. You don't even need to own the game to play in EGA.

On Dec 20th, however, if you don't pay you don't play.

Pretty big difference if you ask me.

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  Kainis

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12/13/11 5:19:46 PM#189

all I see here are sad pandas. Need hugs?

 

edit: yes, this is a reference to all of those WoW players complaining.

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  muchavez

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12/13/11 5:26:48 PM#190

The majority of MMO players are a bunch of nit picking losers.  You all laugh over  people pepper spraying each other on black friday for 2 dollar waffle makers but this thead is the virtual equivalent.

  Angelfire

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12/13/11 5:27:51 PM#191

Hrmm lemme see .. they did say the game launched on the 20th .. which it still is... and they did also say early access POSSIBLY as early as the 15th (when I pre-ordered it was still 15th) .. so I am getting exactly what I expected to get. Holy hell I AM getting played... DOOOOOOOOM..

  Soki123

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12/13/11 5:29:13 PM#192
Originally posted by eccoton
Originally posted by Soki123

If you don t like it cancel your damn pre order and don t play. This is the biggest whinefest I ve seen over absolutely nothing. You would have a right to bitch if they stated otherwise, but they didn t. Get over it, and maybe you wouldn t be so cranky and probably have a headache from refreshing your e mail all day.

Why is this such a big deal. People are to damn spoiled nowadays, they think everyone owes them the world.

Grow up and deal with it.

This is an mmo people do not deal with mmos rationally. I do wonder way EA charge an extra 5 dollars for early access. No other mmo I preorderd has ever done that. I think that makes what EA is doing with a stagger launch suspicous for many players. This is actually an interesting discussion more then it is a whinefest. People have responded to my post as if I am upset, far from it. I just think people don't get it, EA is doing this for money not charity. Nothing wrong with this they made the game to make big big bucks.

Actually it s you that doesn t get it, I m not getting charged 5 extra dollars at all. I m charge that for a pre order fee, and that comes off the total. WTF are you even going on about being charged extra. You need to get some glasses or something.

  Blackrayn

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12/13/11 5:32:59 PM#193

 I did not get into today's early access!

 

 I most likely won't get in to tomorrow's early access!

 

 I might get in on Thursday, but I'm really thinking I will get in on Friday (Pre-ordered Nov. 29th)

 

 And I do not support the OP's post or stance on the matter!

  eyelolled

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12/13/11 5:33:42 PM#194

I think it's a smart move. If you didn't get in as early as some, you should have tried harder. As long as they have all servers up and running for the official launch, then they did their job.  Sorry for all the people that didn't have enough faith to get their preorders in early enough, but apparantly those people that did wanted it more.

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  C1d0s

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12/13/11 5:35:47 PM#195
Originally posted by Blackrayn

 I did not get into today's early access!

 

 I most likely won't get in to tomorrow's early access!

 

 I might get in on Thursday, but I'm really thinking I will get in on Friday (Pre-ordered Nov. 29th)

 

 And I do not support the OP's post or stance on the matter!

It's amazing what people will do when they don't get what they want.

I did't get in either, but I expect perhaps tomorrow or the next as I ordered relatively early.

Fingers crossed!

  dubyahite

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12/13/11 5:38:43 PM#196
We aren't the ones getting played, but the game SWTOR is definitely vein played right now. Which wouldn't be the case if all the servers melted and burned down the datacenter.

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  Requiamer

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12/13/11 5:40:36 PM#197

Imo they put this in place because it look "better" to them than having moronic queues, and that's all. From a server load point of view, staggering make no sense at all, or they can handle the load or they don't. And i hope they already know how much their server can handle, so they know very well how much they need. But its always the same for any mmo launch, why they don't have enough server, huge queues and all this crap. Its because those company have the % of player that will quit after the first few month, and they don't want to pay server for those guys and have to merge them later, that's all. They want the players to deal with it, not them. I think the Aion launch was obvious, the community literally screamed for new servers that they did give very soon, but you could just feel the resistance from NCsoft, it was obvious they didn't wanted to put new server. And for the record NC did gave new server knowing they will have to shut them down shortly. Most if not all company never did that, they just keep the QQ going.

  Kainis

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12/13/11 5:42:01 PM#198
Originally posted by dubyahite
We aren't the ones getting played, but the game SWTOR is definitely vein played right now. Which wouldn't be the case if all the servers melted and burned down the datacenter.

If they melted, I have a mission critical team that can bring it up again within 3 days :)

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Playing- EVE, Black Prophecy, TOR

Waiting for- Tera, Jumpgate Evo, WH40K, WWE, WOD, TSW
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  dubyahite

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12/13/11 5:43:34 PM#199
One thing Requaimer. The server can handle a lot more people than they let in, but the starting zones can't. That's why you see complaining that the server list shows low or med pop. Each planet is probably on separate hardware, so overall a server can handle a lot more people, but they are limiting based on the early zones.

That's why they stopped inviting. Thosenpeople née to get to planet 2 or 3 before the starter zones clear up a bit.

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  dubyahite

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12/13/11 5:48:11 PM#200
Originally posted by Kainis
Originally posted by dubyahite
We aren't the ones getting played, but the game SWTOR is definitely vein played right now. Which wouldn't be the case if all the servers melted and burned down the datacenter.

If they melted, I have a mission critical team that can bring it up again within 3 days :)

Holy crap. could you imagine what these forums would be like if the game was down for 3 whole days? lol

 

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