I'm slightly confused, they have 100-ish servers. like 70+% are currently "Full" and they have gained access to 5 waves. who pre-ordered the game sometime in july, right? How'd they expect rest of of us who want to play to fit on a server, if they have almost already filled all servers, By ppl who pre-ordered in july? 

Is it like 500 pop limit per server or what?

someone who can enlighten me?

Originally posted by mbd1968

Originally posted by PLAIN

Originally posted by MindTrigger

Originally posted by DexterMMO

Really? It's 12:06 CST and theres only one more wave to go out today? When you have 106 mostly medium to low pop servers? Really? Gotta say thats a little disappointing. This is the first time Bioware made me /sadface

The whole "stick and carrot" marketing move of talking people into pre-ordering early is ridiculous.  Those of us who opted to learn more about the game before we blindly handed our money over to Lucas and Bioware are forced to wait, while mouth-breathing fanboys are rewarded with extra play time.  Sounds about right for a modern corporation.

I also don't like this 'second class citizen" BS with the Collectors Edition.  It's one thing to shell out $150 and get some in-game extras, and a cool box filled with collectables.  It's entirely another thing to create an exclusive VIP section and VIP vendor  permanently in the game.

I don't like this new trend at all, but I suppose it fits well with the current state of real-world society and politics.

 

I swear we are living in the most whiny generation in the history of mankind! You people will never accept any responsibility  for anything you do and you will complain about anything. So you wanted to wait before pre ordering. Great! Thousands of peopple like me ordered within minutes of the game being available. You think you deserve to get into the game early just like the people who ordered months before you? You seem to think you should get equal consideration even though you ordered after millions of people.Amazing.

 

I told my buddy multiple times on the 21st so order and enter is code but he was too lazy and left it a week. Now he's whining like a little girl... and of course I'm txting him every 10mins asking if he's got the email... reminds me of a Tshirt I own that says "Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional..."

I fail to see what anything I said has to do with whining.  I'm not even planning to play the game this week as I don't have time, so that shoots your whole theory down right there.  Bioware is more than welcome to add a financial class system based on how much money people spend on their game if they want, and I'm welcomed to my opinion on such a matter.  Nothing to do with whining at all.  In fact, I'm quite certain you are the one whining here.

And speaking of responsibility, I see my decision to wait to learn more about the game before I dropped the cash on it to be far more responsible than buying the game a year or six months early before I knew much about it.  People on this site whine about "getting burned" by game purchases all the time.  I don't get burned.   I make all of my buying decisions with prior due diligence, not knee-jerk buying when I see something shiny.  

Originally posted by ikarrian

I'm slightly confused, they have 100-ish servers. like 70+% are currently "Full" and they have gained access to 5 waves. who pre-ordered the game sometime in july, right? How'd they expect rest of of us who want to play to fit on a server, if they have almost already filled all servers, By ppl who pre-ordered in july? 

Is it like 500 pop limit per server or what?

someone who can enlighten me?

I assume the starter areas have a set capacity and due to this being a story game it's taking a bit longer for people to get through the start zones. Games like Rift utilized this zone by zone and on launch when too many players were within a starter area the login would say full. If this is not the case statistics say 277k pre-ordered in July... or something like that so that means they'll need like 500 servers for US alone... rofl...

Originally posted by ikarrian

I'm slightly confused, they have 100-ish servers. like 70+% are currently "Full" and they have gained access to 5 waves. who pre-ordered the game sometime in july, right? How'd they expect rest of of us who want to play to fit on a server, if they have almost already filled all servers, By ppl who pre-ordered in july? 

Is it like 500 pop limit per server or what?

someone who can enlighten me?

They got more servers for one. But the current servers might also fit like 4-5 times as many as are in right now, it's just that the starting areas are "full" whilst the other parts of the content doesnt have that many players yet. So as people level up and move to other areas the servers might be going down to medium or even low again. 

Originally posted by ikarrian

I'm slightly confused, they have 100-ish servers. like 70+% are currently "Full" and they have gained access to 5 waves. who pre-ordered the game sometime in july, right? How'd they expect rest of of us who want to play to fit on a server, if they have almost already filled all servers, By ppl who pre-ordered in july? 

Is it like 500 pop limit per server or what?

someone who can enlighten me?

Did you see the starting areas?  They are tiny, and instanced.  At any given time you may see a maximum of about 10 people in any given space.  That was my experience during both large beta weekends.  My guess is that they can only fit so many people into the starting areas, and then they can only spawn so many instances of those areas to handle the players.

Personally I found the starting areas clear up to level 10 to be small, on-rails, and boring.  I'm giving the game a try to see how it plays out in higher levels before I make the decision to play it a while or delete it.

I would rather have a global pop status if thats the case.

Originally posted by ikarrian

I'm slightly confused, they have 100-ish servers. like 70+% are currently "Full" and they have gained access to 5 waves. who pre-ordered the game sometime in july, right? How'd they expect rest of of us who want to play to fit on a server, if they have almost already filled all servers, By ppl who pre-ordered in july? 

Is it like 500 pop limit per server or what?

someone who can enlighten me?

They can very easily bring more servers online if necessary.  Chances are they're already up and running, they just want to wait and see if they are needed.

Originally posted by MindTrigger

Originally posted by ikarrian

I'm slightly confused, they have 100-ish servers. like 70+% are currently "Full" and they have gained access to 5 waves. who pre-ordered the game sometime in july, right? How'd they expect rest of of us who want to play to fit on a server, if they have almost already filled all servers, By ppl who pre-ordered in july? 

Is it like 500 pop limit per server or what?

someone who can enlighten me?

Did you see the starting areas?  They are tiny, and instanced.  At any given time you may see a maximum of about 10 people in any given space.  That was my experience during both large beta weekends.  My guess is that they can only fit so many people into the starting areas, and then they can only spawn so many instances of those areas to handle the players.

Personally I found the starting areas clear up to level 10 to be small, on-rails, and boring.  I'm giving the game a try to see how it plays out in higher levels before I make the decision to play it a while or delete it.

They way the Hero Engine handles sharding, they could have a million players in the same starting area, all in different instances. (No, I'm not exagerating).

Indeed, unless they use Ultima Online's servers from 1996.

Originally posted by NMStudio

Originally posted by MindTrigger

Originally posted by ikarrian

I'm slightly confused, they have 100-ish servers. like 70+% are currently "Full" and they have gained access to 5 waves. who pre-ordered the game sometime in july, right? How'd they expect rest of of us who want to play to fit on a server, if they have almost already filled all servers, By ppl who pre-ordered in july? 

Is it like 500 pop limit per server or what?

someone who can enlighten me?

Did you see the starting areas?  They are tiny, and instanced.  At any given time you may see a maximum of about 10 people in any given space.  That was my experience during both large beta weekends.  My guess is that they can only fit so many people into the starting areas, and then they can only spawn so many instances of those areas to handle the players.

Personally I found the starting areas clear up to level 10 to be small, on-rails, and boring.  I'm giving the game a try to see how it plays out in higher levels before I make the decision to play it a while or delete it.

They way the Hero Engine handles sharding, they could have a million players in the same starting area, all in different instances. (No, I'm not exagerating).

Millions huh?  And how would that work?  "LFG"  Meet me in shard 7,353,634 for a hero instance!  Open areas and zero shards are a much more impressive feature to me.

I would like to say there are probably several people (probably in the 1,000s) like me who got their invite today and have been at work. If they let out another wave it would probably be a mess with people coming home from work logging in along with the new invites. Seems like Bioware thought ahead on this one.

Originally posted by MindTrigger

Originally posted by NMStudio

Originally posted by MindTrigger

Originally posted by ikarrian

I'm slightly confused, they have 100-ish servers. like 70+% are currently "Full" and they have gained access to 5 waves. who pre-ordered the game sometime in july, right? How'd they expect rest of of us who want to play to fit on a server, if they have almost already filled all servers, By ppl who pre-ordered in july? 

Is it like 500 pop limit per server or what?

someone who can enlighten me?

Did you see the starting areas?  They are tiny, and instanced.  At any given time you may see a maximum of about 10 people in any given space.  That was my experience during both large beta weekends.  My guess is that they can only fit so many people into the starting areas, and then they can only spawn so many instances of those areas to handle the players.

Personally I found the starting areas clear up to level 10 to be small, on-rails, and boring.  I'm giving the game a try to see how it plays out in higher levels before I make the decision to play it a while or delete it.

They way the Hero Engine handles sharding, they could have a million players in the same starting area, all in different instances. (No, I'm not exagerating).

Millions huh?  And how would that work?  "LFG"  Meet me in shard 7,353,634 for a hero instance!  Open areas and zero shards are a much more impressive feature to me.

The engine could handle it, I never said it would work well :)

For this game sharding works well.  It will save them from having to open up extra servers to accomodate the huge onrush of players, only to have to consolidate later when people calm down and aren't playing 10 hours every day, causing the doomsayers to go on and on about how the game is bleeding subs because servers are closing.

Originally posted by Struggs

I would like to say there are probably several people (probably in the 1,000s) like me who got their invite today and have been at work. If they let out another wave it would probably be a mess with people coming home from work logging in along with the new invites. Seems like Bioware thought ahead on this one.

I think there are quite a few people in the same situation, either at work or at school.  I, too, am wasting my time at work wishing I were home playing :)

Originally posted by MindTrigger

Originally posted by mbd1968

Originally posted by PLAIN

Originally posted by MindTrigger

Originally posted by DexterMMO

Really? It's 12:06 CST and theres only one more wave to go out today? When you have 106 mostly medium to low pop servers? Really? Gotta say thats a little disappointing. This is the first time Bioware made me /sadface

The whole "stick and carrot" marketing move of talking people into pre-ordering early is ridiculous.  Those of us who opted to learn more about the game before we blindly handed our money over to Lucas and Bioware are forced to wait, while mouth-breathing fanboys are rewarded with extra play time.  Sounds about right for a modern corporation.

I also don't like this 'second class citizen" BS with the Collectors Edition.  It's one thing to shell out $150 and get some in-game extras, and a cool box filled with collectables.  It's entirely another thing to create an exclusive VIP section and VIP vendor  permanently in the game.

I don't like this new trend at all, but I suppose it fits well with the current state of real-world society and politics.

 

I swear we are living in the most whiny generation in the history of mankind! You people will never accept any responsibility  for anything you do and you will complain about anything. So you wanted to wait before pre ordering. Great! Thousands of peopple like me ordered within minutes of the game being available. You think you deserve to get into the game early just like the people who ordered months before you? You seem to think you should get equal consideration even though you ordered after millions of people.Amazing.

 

I told my buddy multiple times on the 21st so order and enter is code but he was too lazy and left it a week. Now he's whining like a little girl... and of course I'm txting him every 10mins asking if he's got the email... reminds me of a Tshirt I own that says "Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional..."

I fail to see what anything I said has to do with whining.  I'm not even planning to play the game this week as I don't have time, so that shoots your whole theory down right there.  Bioware is more than welcome to add a financial class system based on how much money people spend on their game if they want, and I'm welcomed to my opinion on such a matter.  Nothing to do with whining at all.  In fact, I'm quite certain you are the one whining here.

And speaking of responsibility, I see my decision to wait to learn more about the game before I dropped the cash on it to be far more responsible than buying the game a year or six months early before I knew much about it.  People on this site whine about "getting burned" by game purchases all the time.  I don't get burned.   I make all of my buying decisions with prior due diligence, not knee-jerk buying when I see something shiny.  

My theory is that my buddy is upset, and whining, that he can't get in agreeing with the part of your post highlighted in red. Step back, take a deep breath and calm down.

Come On BIOWARE .... One more Wave !!! :-)

This must be the most crap launch day for a mmo.

So realistically speaking today wasnt the release day, it was more like a pre release day? release will be when this ridiculous wavecrap goes away?

Does anyone have any idea what date they got up to?

Originally posted by Misfiter

Does anyone have any idea what date they got up to?

Honestly it doesn't even look like they are doing it based on that. Because a TON of people I know who reserved it on day 1 didn't get in. So either they are just letting in 5 people at a time or they are doing it in such little amounts that they won't get through everyone by the release. I hope they just cave and let us all in. That would be nice.

Have fun stress testing (beta testing) their servers, you all paid $60 to stress test their servers lol. Game is a horrible themepark with voiceovers and cutscenes. I feel asleep playing the beta . 

I pre-ordered on July 27th and got my invite to log in today. Doesn't really do me much good though since I cancelled my pre-order two days ago.