Originally posted by JthX

Originally posted by Kreedz

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My friend. Looks from your post suggest you would enjoy console gaming. Mmo don't sound right for you. mmos are about work a lot because its suppose to be a real experience. Going out hunting, gathering, doing some daily.task. that's apart of a mmo experience and I really wish that people would get that because people that want. Fast fun are ruining mmos with thier dominate numbers and influence on devs making this once great market crap.

I like Skyrim, so that sort pokes a hole in your Theory.

Yes Skyrim has grinding elements, but the difference is I am not forced to do those grinding elements, I can just go exploring and kill stuff, and the quests and dungeons are quite entertaining.

Then I have my console games, which consists of Uncharted (1,2, & 3), Borderlands, Batman Arkham Asylum & City, Marvel vs Capcom, LA Noire and Assassin's Creed (1 & 2).

Could be that I just do a little more research on my games than others and know how to recognize whats fun for me, and not what I've been told is fun? Hmm?

EDIT: To elaborate, I find most MMO's entertaining because they provide a sense of community, and that what I look forward to most in the genre when I see a new title announced. If you can make resource collection or other meanial tasks seem fun and rewarding by adding a community element to it, so I at least know my efforts are counting towards a greater goal... But if you force me to perform something to become competative or be on par with other players, I will just hate you for it and quit the game.

I know developing a good MMO takes time but in a couple of years it'll be obsolete. And no one wants to get hyped up over a game and be expected to follow it for any more than a year.

Originally posted by Kotatsu

I know developing a good MMO takes time but in a couple of years it'll be obsolete. And no one wants to get hyped up over a game and be expected to follow it for any more than a year.

This maybe true for console games,  but good quality mmo's tend to stick around a long time.

Originally posted by Kotatsu

I know developing a good MMO takes time but in a couple of years it'll be obsolete. And no one wants to get hyped up over a game and be expected to follow it for any more than a year.

Is what a solo player who cares only about himself and his ego would say... (not trying to have a go at you! so settle down!)

Games come and go, MMO come a little slower and go a little slower, and people like the longevity that most MMO's have.

Play MMO's like they're meant to be played; with other people! friends, family and coworkers. Create those fun moments and memories, the strength of your character should come second to the strength of your friendships... It's when MMO's create a rift between the two that I just shake my head and move on.

Yes, the main guy has said the mmo was being made with the west in mind, to bring it to NA.  He said that was a main goal all along, in a video I watched like a year ago.

Originally posted by precious328

ArcheAge seems to be the only game so far that has combined the prominent features of Theme Park and Sandbox. It's great to actually look forward to some innovation or at the very least something different. The only problem is that this is an Asian game.

Did they ever officially say that they will release in NA / The West?

I only see grind, grind and grind, lineage clone and again korean looking paleskinned elves that also appear in about 100 other korean mmo's no thanks hehe.

Gameplay videos said enough for me i must stay away as far as i can from this game.

Originally posted by Kreedz

Originally posted by Kotatsu

I know developing a good MMO takes time but in a couple of years it'll be obsolete. And no one wants to get hyped up over a game and be expected to follow it for any more than a year.

Is what a solo player who cares only about himself and his ego would say... (not trying to have a go at you! so settle down!)

 

Games come and go, MMO come a little slower and go a little slower, and people like the longevity that most MMO's have.

Play MMO's like they're meant to be played; with other people! friends, family and coworkers. Create those fun moments and memories, the strength of your character should come second to the strength of your friendships... It's when MMO's create a rift between the two that I just shake my head and move on.

My point was I'm not gonna keep caring about something over the next two years if it ain't gonna be out any time soon. TERA Online has been in the works how long? By the time it does come out I'll have diverted my interest elsewhere.

You got me. I'm a solo player. I play mostly for PvP reasons.

In any case, hopefully people still have interest in ArcheAge by the time it actually does come out.

It would be a sily mistake not to launch this game in the US cause that where the largest market is. With the total of 307,006,550 millions lazy ass that addicted to computer game.

Originally posted by Kreedz

If you like grind games, may I suggest picking up a copy of "A Job", all Real Life Stores sell it, and all it costs is your time.

 

Seriously what is with this mentality of "I just got home from work, now lets do some more work, but lets call it 'fun' because its in a video game."

I want to play a game for real Fun, something that gets my heart racing or makes me laugh or just leaves me nodding my head thinking "That was cool...".

I dont want to come home and play a game and be left thinking; "I need to farm some ore tomorrow so I can make a suit of armor, so I can be competative in PvP, then I'll farm some gold so I have a huge stockpile of cash so I can buy more ore to make the new armor when the next patch comes out." - That... yeah... thats just dumb, No thanks....

i believe your looking for the console games. there in the next aisle. you have your instant gradifaction games of the week. hell they even added a feature called "Instant Adventure" to the game. im sure you will be happy there. leave the real game play to us. we go it.

I will probaly play ArcheAge if it comes out in English.  I have been learning some Chinese but more so spoken than written so I don't think I would ever be able to play it in Chinese.

Originally posted by Kreedz

Originally posted by Kotatsu

I know developing a good MMO takes time but in a couple of years it'll be obsolete. And no one wants to get hyped up over a game and be expected to follow it for any more than a year.

Is what a solo player who cares only about himself and his ego would say... (not trying to have a go at you! so settle down!)

 

Games come and go, MMO come a little slower and go a little slower, and people like the longevity that most MMO's have.

Play MMO's like they're meant to be played; with other people! friends, family and coworkers. Create those fun moments and memories, the strength of your character should come second to the strength of your friendships... It's when MMO's create a rift between the two that I just shake my head and move on.

it sounds like to me you want a solo type game ( where you can progress by yourself and not fall behind) but you want to play this game with other people. my i sugest taking your laptop to a park or a coffie house and playing skyrim there. youll get to play your solo games with other people that way. like i said. from your posts i can tell that you are a console type of player and this is NOT the game for you. in fact any game like this one is NOT for you. stick to skirim and rift for your solo 20 min gaming fix. im looking for a game to play for YEARS not mouths.

I doubt the official english ArcheAge game website was hosted just for the lulz.

Originally posted by Sukiyaki

I doubt the official english ArcheAge game website was hosted just for the lulz.

plus with the MMOs nowadays, I find far more easy I learn korean then play games like wow.

Originally posted by alkarionlog

Originally posted by Sukiyaki

I doubt the official english ArcheAge game website was hosted just for the lulz.

plus with the MMOs nowadays, I find far more easy I learn korean then play games like wow.

You speak like Eastern MMO's are doing anything different. 

You ingrate children should stop posting and stop wathing so much anime.

Originally posted by Lambon23

Originally posted by alkarionlog

Originally posted by Sukiyaki

I doubt the official english ArcheAge game website was hosted just for the lulz.

plus with the MMOs nowadays, I find far more easy I learn korean then play games like wow.

You speak like Eastern MMO's are doing anything different. 

You ingrate children should stop posting and stop wathing so much anime.

diferently enough for me want to play then western devs, really you should hate less and learn more, but it ok no one cares about what you think :)

Originally posted by kantseeme

Originally posted by Kreedz

Originally posted by Kotatsu

I know developing a good MMO takes time but in a couple of years it'll be obsolete. And no one wants to get hyped up over a game and be expected to follow it for any more than a year.

Is what a solo player who cares only about himself and his ego would say... (not trying to have a go at you! so settle down!)

 

Games come and go, MMO come a little slower and go a little slower, and people like the longevity that most MMO's have.

Play MMO's like they're meant to be played; with other people! friends, family and coworkers. Create those fun moments and memories, the strength of your character should come second to the strength of your friendships... It's when MMO's create a rift between the two that I just shake my head and move on.

it sounds like to me you want a solo type game ( where you can progress by yourself and not fall behind) but you want to play this game with other people. my i sugest taking your laptop to a park or a coffie house and playing skyrim there. youll get to play your solo games with other people that way. like i said. from your posts i can tell that you are a console type of player and this is NOT the game for you. in fact any game like this one is NOT for you. stick to skirim and rift for your solo 20 min gaming fix. im looking for a game to play for YEARS not mouths.

Hes got TOR to play aswell. Thats just as solo oriented as skyrim. All he needs to do is open his FB msg'er with skyrim (assuming hes got more than 2 friends on FB)

Originally posted by Kreedz

Originally posted by JthX

Originally posted by Kreedz

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I like Skyrim, so that sort pokes a hole in your Theory.

Yes Skyrim has grinding elements, but the difference is I am not forced to do those grinding elements, I can just go exploring and kill stuff, and the quests and dungeons are quite entertaining.

Then I have my console games, which consists of Uncharted (1,2, & 3), Borderlands, Batman Arkham Asylum & City, Marvel vs Capcom, LA Noire and Assassin's Creed (1 & 2).

Could be that I just do a little more research on my games than others and know how to recognize whats fun for me, and not what I've been told is fun? Hmm?

 

EDIT: To elaborate, I find most MMO's entertaining because they provide a sense of community, and that what I look forward to most in the genre when I see a new title announced. If you can make resource collection or other meanial tasks seem fun and rewarding by adding a community element to it, so I at least know my efforts are counting towards a greater goal... But if you force me to perform something to become competative or be on par with other players, I will just hate you for it and quit the game.

His theory was you would like single player (non-MMO) gaming more and you proved his point further. People like you wont like MMOs because you think YOUR fun should be everybodys fun. I have several friends who plays Skyrim (doesnt everybody?) and props dead bodys in chairs for like hours. Another spends tons of time gathering food stuffs to cook. Another just goes and kills stuff. Me, I do alot of it, including "grinding" stuff like enchanted alchy items to make stronger enchated alcy items until I make supreme items. I also enjoy playing on the hardest setting.

You probably wouldnt like this and yell an fuss about how its no fun. Also im excited you do research on console games, but the MMO players have YEARS to research the right MMO for them, so even the stupidest of gamers can manage to try only the ones right for them.

Ironically I can even tell you a MMO that might suit your needs, Guild Wars 2. Certain PvP sets players to max level with equal gear, making it 100% fair. You can do this from the very begining.

This game has elements in it that MMO gamers dream about being in an MMO, building huge towns, massive boats, game changing world wars, housing, farming, customizable looks, and much much more.

So while people like you are quick to call it simply another Asian game, I call it an industry changer. If games like AA are successful, other companies far and wide, will start dabbling in this expended type of game play. Its the type of game that you will naysay on but when it comes down to it, there is something "FUN" to do for near every single gaming style. 

Lastly the game isnt super grind forever mode, thats a stereotype of the Asian game market. Good luck and have fun playing borderlands while im enjoying one of the best and most anticipated MMOs to ever be created.

Originally posted by precious328

ArcheAge seems to be the only game so far that has combined the prominent features of Theme Park and Sandbox. It's great to actually look forward to some innovation or at the very least something different. The only problem is that this is an Asian game.

Did they ever officially say that they will release in NA / The West?

NCSoft made titles like Lineage 2, GW1, and now GW2 (AreaNet is owned by NCSoft).  These have all been titles in Western and Eastern markets.  Jake Song used to work for NCsoft on these games until he broke off and made his own company in 2003 called XLGames.  He was the father of Lineage and made Nexus before that... In many interviews, Jake has mentioned that ArcheAge was being developed with western markets in mind.