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  77lolmac77

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OP  12/12/11 4:44:38 PM#1
I dont know about everyone else but I was severely dissapointed by MW3. Not so much by thr gameplay itself considering it hasnt changed much over the years but more about the little things. First of all, every map is ridiculously open ended. And by that I mean theres so many different routes and viewpoints to take its hard to keep someone from shooting you in the back. The original CoD maps on the PC were the perfect mix of bottlenecks and different paths IMO. Also, the text on the customization screen is really small and hard to read. I have good vision so thats not the issue. And last but not least the maps all looks similiar and you cant jump on things like you could in previous games. Everything feels like its blocked off by barriers. That was part of the fun of the original Call of Duty, being able to platform yourself into a unique spot to shoot from. Now its just "stay along these set paths and try to cover the 57 different ways a person could shoot you from". Maybe I'm just a jaded classic CoD player but I feel like Infinity Ward really droppedmthe ball on thos one and everyone still plays it simply because its new, and the name Modern Warfare is on it.
  Lafinatu

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12/12/11 4:49:25 PM#2

About your complaints I don't know but I don't think it's much of a issue most people. So, what happened? Nothing Activsion is bring in the cash.

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/call-of-duty-2011-project/1214557p1.html 

 

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  8BitAvatar

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12/12/11 4:52:35 PM#3

The better question is what happened to CoD?

Bobby Kotick happened.

He turned it into a Madden-esque franchise that spits new games out on an annual basis with incremental improvements over the last version.

  77lolmac77

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OP  12/12/11 4:59:52 PM#4
Thats what makes me sad, that a game can go downhill and earn MORE revenue. Same thing happened to Madden, EA got the lock on NFL licensing and once NFL 2k got shut down(which was a better game in every aspect IMO) they just sent out the same game every year but with updated rosters and some different skins and soundtracks. Kind of sad that Modern Warfare is going down that route @8BitAvatar Im on mobile so I didnt see your post til after mine but yes thats exactly what Im mad about. If you ever notice a lot of CoD maps are the same layout just different skins (Wasteland from MW2 = Brecourt from CoD classic)
  Muerte_X

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12/12/11 5:10:14 PM#5

I agree completely with the OP. They negated any ability to cover flanking, which they have been trending towards for the past few COD's. I was bothered by the fact you can't climb on much as well. Spawning in all the maps is terrible. I cannot count the number of times I have litterally watched someone spawn directly in my sights... pull the trigger and they are dead. And of coarse when I spawn in someone's sights it pisses me off. The franchise is headed downhill, although I don't think that will show in thier sales. Makes me mad I bought COD instead of Battlefield 3 :/ Of coarse, I wouldn't play either if I could find a decent sandbox, but that is for another thread.

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  David_Lopan

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"There is no progress. Everything is the same as it was. Form changes. The essence does not." RLS

12/12/11 5:15:39 PM#6

IMO BF3 is so much better than MW3 and I was really looking forward to MW3!! (Mainly the multi player but the single player is a bit better in BF3 too). I still play and enjoy both though

  uohaloran

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12/12/11 5:17:19 PM#7

Uh, Infinity Ward didn't make this one did they?

Thought it was Sledgehammer games or something.

  Warmaker

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12/12/11 8:54:28 PM#8

I'm just simply amazed that for three times, people paid for full price for the same game.

"I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)

  Talonsin

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12/12/11 9:00:51 PM#9

MW3 is a map pack.  I just watched an amazing video of BF3 today where a guy in a jet is being followed by another jet, he heads straight up in the air, jumps out, hits the pursuing jet with a rocket launcher and then falls back into the jet and keeps on flying.  He loaded it on youtube to the theme of the A Team.  You dont have awesome moments like that in MW3.  BF3 didnt outsell MW3 but it is gaining and more people are getting tired of paying $60 for a map pack so I dont see them breaking any records on the next one.

  Soraksis

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12/12/11 9:03:22 PM#10
Originally posted by Talonsin

MW3 is a map pack.  I just watched an amazing video of BF3 today where a guy in a jet is being followed by another jet, he heads straight up in the air, jumps out, hits the pursuing jet with a rocket launcher and then falls back into the jet and keeps on flying.  He loaded it on youtube to the theme of the A Team.  You dont have awesome moments like that in MW3.  BF3 didnt outsell MW3 but it is gaining and more people are getting tired of paying $60 for a map pack so I dont see them breaking any records on the next one.

I want that link!

  Juggerz

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12/12/11 9:05:02 PM#11

Kids multiplied.

Thats what happenz...

  Sourd420

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12/12/11 9:26:59 PM#12
Originally posted by Soraksis
Originally posted by Talonsin

MW3 is a map pack.  I just watched an amazing video of BF3 today where a guy in a jet is being followed by another jet, he heads straight up in the air, jumps out, hits the pursuing jet with a rocket launcher and then falls back into the jet and keeps on flying.  He loaded it on youtube to the theme of the A Team.  You dont have awesome moments like that in MW3.  BF3 didnt outsell MW3 but it is gaining and more people are getting tired of paying $60 for a map pack so I dont see them breaking any records on the next one.

I want that link!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOaGhE_sejI Pure Epic Kill

  marinrider

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12/12/11 9:32:35 PM#13
Originally posted by uohaloran

Uh, Infinity Ward didn't make this one did they?

Thought it was Sledgehammer games or something.

Correct, still published by ActiBlizz though, which is where the problem lies.  Its still running on the same engine as all the previous games of the series, so ActiBlizz just gave them that.

Actually, according to the Wiki, sledgehammer was working on an action adventure, third person shooter under the CoD name but was forced to cancel the project (they were working since 2009) and help IW make MW3 because so many of IW's staff quit (around 50 people).

So, basically, they were doing something kid of new, and Activison said no.  Bout sums up the whole situation.

  tank017

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12/12/11 9:38:18 PM#14

It is amazing how a company can put out virtually the same product and have people gobble it up like revenous animals..

 

MW3 has reached the 1 BILLION DOLLAR mark...its ridiculous..

 

 

  David_Lopan

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12/12/11 9:40:33 PM#15
Originally posted by tank017

It is amazing how a company can put out virtually the same product and have people gobble it up like revenous animals..

 

MW3 has reached the 1 BILLION DOLLAR mark...its ridiculous..

 

 

   Your right, same with the Halo series and GoW

  ForTheCity

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12/13/11 1:17:35 PM#16
Originally posted by Sourd420
Originally posted by Soraksis
Originally posted by Talonsin

MW3 is a map pack.  I just watched an amazing video of BF3 today where a guy in a jet is being followed by another jet, he heads straight up in the air, jumps out, hits the pursuing jet with a rocket launcher and then falls back into the jet and keeps on flying.  He loaded it on youtube to the theme of the A Team.  You dont have awesome moments like that in MW3.  BF3 didnt outsell MW3 but it is gaining and more people are getting tired of paying $60 for a map pack so I dont see them breaking any records on the next one.

I want that link!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOaGhE_sejI Pure Epic Kill

that is ridiculous....

as i've posted in other posts, its not that i don't want to try bf3, its not that i prefer mw3 over bf3, its just that all my friends play mw3. the time i enjoy playing most is with my friends online. so i don't see why i would buy a game that 0 of my friends have. 

  twodayslate

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12/13/11 2:05:39 PM#17

The better question is what didn't happen.  Yet again, the prayers of millions of gamers go unanswered, and the Activision crew skates by another year without developing canceraids.

  ScalperOne

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12/14/11 11:09:02 PM#18

COD became a milking cow, each year a new one and the consumers keep buying it. Soon you be paying the full price for a game and only getting new levels, or worse you would end up paying a monthly fee of $9.99... + cost of game + map packs.

  Serelisk

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12/14/11 11:33:40 PM#19
Originally posted by Aquazen
Originally posted by tank017

It is amazing how a company can put out virtually the same product and have people gobble it up like revenous animals..

 

MW3 has reached the 1 BILLION DOLLAR mark...its ridiculous..

 

 

   Your right, same with the Halo series and GoW

What?

None of the Halo games were completely identical to the previous game, each coming with new weapons, new tools, and new mechanics. From Halo Combat Evolved to Halo 2's streamlined multiplayer support and new weapons- to Halo 3's forge, new vehicles, and support weapons- to Reach's armor abilities, Forge World and firefight (taken from ODST but still notable).

And at least they updated the graphics and polygon count of the game considerably with each sequel. Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 looks like DLC for MW2. It looks and plays like the exact. Same. Engine.

 

I would argue that Gears of War had substantial upgrades through it's series, but I feel like it'd be a lost cause. If a SEQUEL isn't doing something completely new and detached from it's predecessors in every feasible way, it's just another mindless, generic rehash. At least, that's how way too many think. You can go ahead and call me a fanboy, but comparing the level of difference between MW2-MW3 to Gears and Halo series is reeaalllly stretching it.

  Lexin

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12/14/11 11:41:35 PM#20

What happened? Judging from what I see in videos nothing... (Nothing has changed it's the same exact game.)

 

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