I cant say i care much for the pve in wow.........and im probably missing out because people say pve is a strong point of the game...... I do however love to pvp .Even though its pretty carebear and like a FPS more so than a hardcore pvp mmo ...its still very fun. Some people hate the art direction and the glowing big shoulder pads.....imo these are strong factors and things i like about the game.

When it comes to swtor.......i am absolutely blown away by how i was thrown into an epic story when questing.... I usually dont care for story in games i just want to level so i can pvp but bioware really have made questing what wow or any other mmo never could

I will still play wow...and lineage 2....and eve.......and now swtor.

All very different games for very different reasons....... I dont see why because swtor is born you have to hate on another game and say it will be doomed . People are obviously playing it for a reason....and i will continue to play wow because no other game will ever be wow no matter how many clones exist.

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Originally posted by Thane
actually they are jumping of cliffs, not to kill themselves tho, but to get into the water for migration purposes (eg, when a population grows too big)

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Originally posted by Thane

 

Originally posted by Zezel

Originally posted by obii

Because I dislike Star Wars.

The movies are fairy tales for children and that is what I associate with Star wars.

Give me Grimm and Grittty Science Fiction, like Blade Runner, Aliens, Neuromancer.

 

Huh?  The whole MMORPG genre is a fairytale.

AFI was Star Wars as 15th for top US movies in history. It must really suck to have the 15th best movie in US history.

 

 

 

 

make that top 4 :)

Thanks for the update, last I knew it was 15th and to lazy this morning to look.

Originally posted by lizardbones

 

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Originally posted by Thane
actually they are jumping of cliffs, not to kill themselves tho, but to get into the water for migration purposes (eg, when a population grows too big)

 

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How long do you think it would take to make this discussion about lemmings? Do you think the people who like SWToR would argue for lemmings jumping off of cliffs, or would the opposite be true?

 

I move to have peta intervene on behalf of the lemmings so that they can save them from themselves.

Because WoW is much better? ToR has slightly better graphics, thats it

Everybody will play swtor and here's why:

in WoW:

"The enemy has item x,y,z and we need it! go get it" (text)

in Swtor:

"The enemy has item x,y,z and we need it! go get it" (voice)

in WoW:

Tab, 1, 2, 1, 4, 1, 3

in Swtor:

Tab, 1, 2, 1, 4, 1, 4

See? those significant differences clearly make Swotor the much superior game.

Originally posted by returnintor

Originally posted by Sovrath

Probably becaus some people don't like the art designg or the voice overs or the story.

The things that you are touting as virtues are also things that others have decried.

Personally SWToR is more my speed for a themepark game (never got into wow) but I can easily see why others wouldn't want to play it.

LO, if you didn't get into WoW, you will never, ever get into SWTOR. For all your enthusiams and mad support for this game, I give you two months before you uninstall.

 

if he plays for two months then he has got good value out of it. people wont play an mmo for 6 years ever again.

Originally posted by mithoss

Everybody will play swtor and here's why:

in WoW:

"The enemy has item x,y,z and we need it! go get it" (text)

in Swtor:

"The enemy has item x,y,z and we need it! go get it" (voice)

in WoW:

Tab, 1, 2, 1, 4, 1, 3

in Swtor:

Tab, 1, 2, 1, 4, 1, 4

See? those significant differences clearly make Swotor the much superior game.

I C wat you did thar

Originally posted by mindw0rk

Because WoW is much better? ToR has slightly better graphics, thats it

star wars is a better more widely know IP than warcraft, most people don't know anything about warcraft but everyone knows what star wars is.

Originally posted by mithoss

Everybody will play swtor and here's why:

in WoW:

"The enemy has item x,y,z and we need it! go get it" (text)

in Swtor:

"The enemy has item x,y,z and we need it! go get it" (voice)

in WoW:

Tab, 1, 2, 1, 4, 1, 3

in Swtor:

Tab, 1, 2, 1, 4, 1, 4

See? those significant differences clearly make Swotor the much superior game.

Ha ha ha. That was a good a good one and I'm not being sarcastic.

Originally posted by nerovipus32

Originally posted by mindw0rk

Because WoW is much better? ToR has slightly better graphics, thats it

star wars is a better more widely know IP than warcraft, most people don't know anything about warcraft but everyone knows what star wars is.

SW universe sucks, plain and simple. Stupid jedies and wookies

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Originally posted by Blasphim

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Originally posted by lizardbones
 

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Originally posted by Thane
actually they are jumping of cliffs, not to kill themselves tho, but to get into the water for migration purposes (eg, when a population grows too big)
 
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How long do you think it would take to make this discussion about lemmings? Do you think the people who like SWToR would argue for lemmings jumping off of cliffs, or would the opposite be true?

 

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I move to have peta intervene on behalf of the lemmings so that they can save them from themselves.

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3-6 months from now all you TOR fangirls will be jumping ship to GW2 saying the same crap you all say when a new game comes out and nothing will change. You all are too funny.

Originally posted by nerovipus32

Originally posted by mindw0rk

Because WoW is much better? ToR has slightly better graphics, thats it

star wars is a better more widely know IP than warcraft, most people don't know anything about warcraft but everyone knows what star wars is.

Can you be any more ignorant?

Originally posted by Smitty88

Originally posted by nerovipus32

Originally posted by mindw0rk

Because WoW is much better? ToR has slightly better graphics, thats it

star wars is a better more widely know IP than warcraft, most people don't know anything about warcraft but everyone knows what star wars is.

Can you be any more ignorant?

I think he means in comparison to Star Wars. Outside the gaming community people may have heard of Warcraft, and thats all whilst absolutely everyone knows what Star Wars is.

Originally posted by lizardbones

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That would interfere with their innate free will. You'll get darkside points for sure.

You do not know the POWER of the dark side.....

Originally posted by returnintor

Originally posted by Malckiah

Or

1. TOR has way more and larger zones to explore than wow.... at any time.

Ho ho. No it doesn't not by a long, long shot. SWTOR is tiny.

2. TOR has an individual story for each class that you get to decide how it goes through your choices.... in wow there basically is no story unless you want to READ about killing rats to save the planet...lol.

Exactly. ONE story you HAVE to do. And millions of other people have exactly tghe same one. And there are plenty of excellent stories in WoW. It helps of course if you can read but many of the later stories are now animated and voiced.

3. In TOR you can click past the dialogue if you wish, but why would you....it's amazing.... at least if your not a drone.

The dialogue is not amazing at all. It's incredibly bad TVM dialogue. Really, clunky and embarrassing. The NPC animations while they're saying it make it even more risible.

4. TOR has an incredible endgame indeed.

LOL. Oh dear oh dear.

5. TOR is set up with the social aspect in mind and will start out with several million people to get it going.

I sure am looking forward to playing Pazaak in those cantinas or maybe dancing in a band or just cooking some nice food or maybe even sitting down in a chair... Oh wait. You can't do any of those things.

6. My cute jawa companion is just that.... a companion. But in wow you actually will be the kung fu Po panda.....lol

Exactly. In SWTOR you can be one type of differently coloured-human. In WoW you can be a werewolf, a zombie, a minotaur, a gnome...

7. Wow is already afraid!

Yes. Afraid you might self-harm when you realise exactly what you've got after five years of mad hopes and dreams.

 

Completely clueless. Tell me, which of WoW's heroic 5mans have bosses with strict enrage timers? And how exactly is WoW's endgame "incredible"?  Maybe because a semi decent guild on a semi dead server (my guild) killed Cataclysm's final boss in 2 resets ?! Incredible indeed. 

Of course you can skip endgame and go down this route: 1)activate the dungeon finder 2)get ported inside a 5man or a raid together with 4 or 9 or 24 strangers from different realms 3)faceroll over your keyboard till the bosses are down 4)get your shiny purples 5)port out back to SW or Orgrimmar. Rinse and repeat. WoW sets new standards in the social aspect. 

Enjoy your pandas and pokemon battles in the next expansion.

This thread proves why you should play neither.  The community in both is going to be horrid with a bunch of 4 yr olds spouting insults every 5 seconds.  Both games have strong and weak points but other than burn out I cannot see why anyone would leave Azeroth for TOR.  TOR makes WOW look like EVE in terms of depth right now 8 yrs old or not.

Originally posted by parrotpholk

This thread proves why you should play neither.  The community in both is going to be horrid with a bunch of 4 yr olds spouting insults every 5 seconds.  Both games have strong and weak points but other than burn out I cannot see why anyone would leave Azeroth for TOR.  TOR makes WOW look like EVE in terms of depth right now 8 yrs old or not.

Actually this proves that you are just another hater jumping in every ocassion to bash TOR. Just like 8 year olds.

I especially liked your comment regarding WoW's depth.

Ive played far too many MMOs to count, and WoW is by far the only one to hold my interest for long. To me the graphics are beautiful still, but I love the art direction and the level of polish. The combat is fast and fun, and the lore and races feel really well done and unique.

I havent played SWTOR yet, but from what i've seen it looks rather slow combat wise. I also do not care for the big single player story line part of the game. I think that is taking the whole quest hub concept a tad bit too far. But thats just my opinion...