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  Puremallace

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12/08/11 11:09:47 AM#41

Next gen means something people will copy...hey sort of like Master Modes in WoW in Panda......or hey those dynamic scaling events GW2 is doing...oh wait GW2 is like a year from release

 

hmmmz instant adventure...I can think of a game set in a galaxu far far away with no reason at all to return to planets that might benefit from this...Isn't Murder Ball being copied from Black garden in WoW!!

 

Hey didn't WoW literally just copy the ability of the person first in the x-server LFG queue to be put back in first if another person declines....I wonder what game had that first, but hey details smetails right!?!?

 

Those Deathwing tentacles sureeee do look familair to a certain squid boss in Hammerknell.

 

hmmmz AOE loot in TOR....wonder where they got the idea for that!?!?!?!?!?!?

 

YES OBVIOUSLY NOONE is copying any of Rifts features.

  Cthulhu23

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12/08/11 11:15:12 AM#42
Originally posted by Puremallace

Next gen means something people will copy...hey sort of like Master Modes in WoW in Panda......or hey those dynamic scaling events GW2 is doing...oh wait GW2 is like a year from release

 

hmmmz instant adventure...I can think of a game set in a galaxu far far away with no reason at all to return to planets that might benefit from this...Isn't Murder Ball being copied from Black garden in WoW!!

 

Hey didn't WoW literally just copy the ability of the person first in the x-server LFG queue to be put back in first if another person declines....I wonder what game had that first, but hey details smetails right!?!?

 

Those Deathwing tentacles sureeee do look familair to a certain squid boss in Hammerknell.

 

hmmmz AOE loot in TOR....wonder where they got the idea for that!?!?!?!?!?!?

 

YES OBVIOUSLY NOONE is copying any of Rifts features.

 

Are you serious?  Do you know how many years GW2 has been in development.  And you actually think their dynamic events are being copied from Rift's rifts? 

And you actually think that WoW is copying ANYTHING from their LFG function when they were the ones who created it?  

Or that Deathwing's actual appearance was copied from a Rift raid boss?  

And you are lauding Instant Adventure as anything other than the single-worst idea in the history of MMOs?  

Simply incredible.  

  Yamota

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12/08/11 11:18:26 AM#43

I dont agree. Being polished is not enough to get best game of the year award and the only truly unique it has are Rifts which are basically just WARs Public Quests which spawn random mob spawns. A novelty which gets old quick.

Dont get me wrong, the game is a solid one but the only reason for it getting best MMORPG of the year award would be if there are no other games which are good and I would say that even SW:TOR is better than Rift.

  gbooster

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12/08/11 11:25:32 AM#44

They should win the award for the worst macro system ever implemented in an online game.

  gbooster

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12/08/11 11:29:20 AM#45
Originally posted by Yamota

I dont agree. Being polished is not enough to get best game of the year award and the only truly unique it has are Rifts which are basically just WARs Public Quests which spawn random mob spawns. A novelty which gets old quick.

Dont get me wrong, the game is a solid one but the only reason for it getting best MMORPG of the year award would be if there are no other games which are good and I would say that even SW:TOR is better than Rift.

I thought the Rifts were much better than the PQs.

 

But what I really wanted to say is...

That is the most awesome Sig Pic ever!

  Puremallace

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12/08/11 11:37:29 AM#46
Originally posted by Cthulhu23

Are you serious?  Do you know how many years GW2 has been in development.  And you actually think their dynamic events are being copied from Rift's rifts? 

And you actually think that WoW is copying ANYTHING from their LFG function when they were the ones who created it?  

Or that Deathwing's actual appearance was copied from a Rift raid boss?  

And you are lauding Instant Adventure as anything other than the single-worst idea in the history of MMOs?  

Simply incredible.  

First to the party! Sorry GW2 is now copying Rift. Go tell ArenaNET to live up to their expected release date then if they want credit. YES WoW copied from Rift. You mean to tell me mysteriously TWO YEARS after they put x-server LFG in they magically just now happen to fix that after Rift shows it can be done?

 

How about the mysterious change from? It is too time consuming and technologically not possible to itemize 5man content for more casual mode to "one of our big features in MoP is new hard modes of 5mans"? COME ON MANNNNNN!!!

 

Instant Adventures is where it is going man. It is the perfect solution to the "I want it now" mmo generation. Watch and see if it is does not get copied.

Originally posted by ghettobooste

They should win the award for the worst macro system ever implemented in an online game.

That award goes to TOR for not even trying to put one in the game, but hey double standards and mmo hypocrisy. Rift has to launch with it, but TOR is just fine without it.

 

  popinjay

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12/08/11 11:46:11 AM#47


Originally posted by Puremallace
Next gen means something people will copy...hey sort of like Master Modes in WoW in Panda......or hey those dynamic scaling events GW2 is doing...oh wait GW2 is like a year from release
 
hmmmz instant adventure...I can think of a game set in a galaxu far far away with no reason at all to return to planets that might benefit from this...Isn't Murder Ball being copied from Black garden in WoW!!
 
Hey didn't WoW literally just copy the ability of the person first in the x-server LFG queue to be put back in first if another person declines....I wonder what game had that first, but hey details smetails right!?!?
 
Those Deathwing tentacles sureeee do look familair to a certain squid boss in Hammerknell.
 
hmmmz AOE loot in TOR....wonder where they got the idea for that!?!?!?!?!?!?
 
YES OBVIOUSLY NOONE is copying any of Rifts features.


Actually, he claimed the soul systems were "next gen", not the Instant Adventures. Besides, you just agree with what I said about "next gen"'s definition, but failed to discuss any of the games FOLLOWING Rift and how Rift's "next gen" stuff is changing their games. And you're talking about WoW stealing a mechanic? They steal from EVERYONE, lol! And Rift stole from them first to even make their bloody game so pfft..

I didn't know there was AoE loot in ToR, must be something you have to activate because I looted every mob I killed solo. I'll check that out when I go back next week. But as far as loot selling, Rift can't touch ToR, lol.

Next time you talk to Jarvis (once every TWO hours), tell him you are going to send your purple tiger pet next time to sell all your loot because you'll be to busy PLAYING THE GAME to be be bothered warping back to town or summoning a vendor who sells water just so he can take it. He might be taken aback if he saw a striped purple tiger trying to sell him boar teeth. Even if you could do that, the pet pathing in Rift was so bad I doubt your pet could find his way back from the city to relocate you. ToR, this is all on lockdown already, Pure. Hit a button, companion goes off, you stay and fight. 60 seconds later your companion comes back with your money and starts fighting. THAT is something other games will want; that's next gen even if Bioware is too modest to claim that like Trion.

And honestly, I was reading someone I respect as a gamer's opinion on the Rift forums from my time there and he had to say this about IA:



I dunno, there was a definite sense of adventure and some enjoyment.

But, we have just gotten to Ember Isle after 8 months or w/e of being sick to the teeth of facerolling SS/SM.

The thing is, 20 people doing a one man job in the same old places you've been doing it for 8 months without those other 19 people. It's just the first person to the area gathers everything up and AoE them down while the other 19 run in that direction then stop, turn, and run in the other direction. I'm just not seeing the point tbh.

Btw; the yellow was the MAIN reason I left Rift in the first place. Tank run in, hit AoE taunt. DPS start AoE nuke. Healer start AOE heals. Rinse repeat for whole dungeon/raid/IA/invasion/PvP.. like NO challenging skill needed to play it, just need No Doze pills.

  gbooster

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12/08/11 11:49:08 AM#48
Originally posted by Puremallace

Originally posted by ghettobooste

They should win the award for the worst macro system ever implemented in an online game.

That award goes to TOR for not even trying to put one in the game, but hey double standards and mmo hypocrisy. Rift has to launch with it, but TOR is just fine without it.

 

Better to not have a macro system than one that completely takes out all skill from the game.

Rift.. the game where reactive spells are not reactive. Or also known as 111111111111111.... 2

  Cthulhu23

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12/08/11 11:51:51 AM#49

Having no macro system > Having a macro system that binds all your attacks to one button.  But Rift has always been about ease of gameplay.  I mean, heck, you don't even have to move from your spot to pick up quests anymore.

  hikaru77

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12/08/11 12:11:25 PM#50

We dont even have a discussion, everyone here already know it, that award goes for swtor, anyone have any doubt about that?. Rift is a good game, but thats all. Dynamics events are just an improved version of warhammer pqs, the pvp, well there is not pvp in rift, after 40 min waiting in a queue with a ¨cross shard¨ system i just quit, and im still waiting for the rvr that trion promised, the only good thing was the souls system and still, the system have a lot of problems in pvp.  

 

  BizkitNL

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12/08/11 12:14:21 PM#51

I think Trion deserves credit for what they pulled off. Rift however.......not so much.

My 2 cents.

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  tkoreaper

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12/08/11 12:28:13 PM#52

I REALLY wish people would get off their high horse and try Rift now. I agree it didn't have a whole lot of content at release, but it did have enough for the standard player. More content, and a lot more since then, was quickly pushed out and for some that was too late, but I encourage people to try it now.

Those that only played for a few weeks or even a month just don't understand how much has changed. All they're doing is putting a sour taste in people's mouths that really want to try it. I can agree that the leveling can be better, but it has gotten better and that is the only real negative I have with the game. If people would just give it a chance and see what the game is about at lvl 50 then were wouldn't be the negativity in the air.

People say WoW-clone, but it's not. Maybe to those that didn't give the game an honest try. It offers so much more than WoW does. To me, it's not a wow clone unless you ignore everything the game offers, but even doing that it shouldn't even be really considered a WoW-clone but just another typical MMORPG. Rift IMO is the game WoW should aspire to and not the other way around... it's quickly breaking the mold of the MMORPG genre. And while there are soon to be other games with a few new features, it doesn't change the fact that Rift is a great game.

  User Deleted
12/08/11 12:36:28 PM#53

I say yes to Rift for MMO of the year. I admittedly enjoyed my 3 months in the game. Saying Rift is the MMO of the year the really lets people know how little 2011 had to offer for MMO's, it was good , but nothing to write home about in my personal opinion. For some people I'm sure it's amazing, opinions vary.

  hikaru77

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12/08/11 12:56:29 PM#54
Originally posted by Puremallace
Originally posted by Cthulhu23

Having no macro system > Having a macro system that binds all your attacks to one button.  But Rift has always been about ease of gameplay.  I mean, heck, you don't even have to move from your spot to pick up quests anymore.

"""wahhhhhhhhhh why am I out of energy all the time? I bound 20 attacks into one macro!!""" Trion it is your fault. I see why you quit Rift now.

 

Originally posted by hikaru77

We dont even have a discussion, everyone here already know it, that award goes for swtor, anyone have any doubt about that?. Rift is a good game, but thats all. Dynamics events are just an improved version of warhammer pqs, the pvp, well there is not pvp in rift, after 40 min waiting in a queue with a ¨cross shard¨ system i just quit, and im still waiting for the rvr that trion promised, the only good thing was the souls system and still, the system have a lot of problems in pvp.  

 

You want RvR in a two faction game. Automatically your opinion is mute.

I have Played Daoc (best pvp MMo of the last 10 years), Warhammer for almost 3 years, etc. But you are right i know nothing about RvR.  2 factions RvR is possible, the real problem is when the system fail. You look like an AION veteran, so then yes, in a game like AION, a 100% zerg fest MMO, 2 factions RvR wont work. Rift is not even an RvR MMO, so you cant take that as an example. You need a system where the population balance is not a big deal in the RvR zone, so even if you are outnumbered you still can find a way to fight and even win the battle, Warhammer have great concepts about that, but it was too late, however looks like bw and swtor is in the right track with what they did on Ilum, is a game where the guerrilla warfare works. so let see whats happen in a Month or two with that. Again, if you are an AIon veteran, then plz, dont reply, you have no idea what the PvP is, even worse if you come from Rift. 

  tixylix

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12/08/11 12:59:03 PM#55

What was there this year?

DC Universe

RIFT

SWTOR

 

That it?

 

All suck, there is no winner but SWTOR will probably sell the most.

  CazNeerg

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12/08/11 1:07:31 PM#56

I enjoyed Rift.  But TOR will almost certainly be winning most awards that the two games end up competing for.  Rift is WoW + Rifts.  TOR is WoW + eight fully voiced single player BioWare RPG stories.  Not going to be a contest for most award granting bodies.

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  Madimorga

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12/08/11 1:27:59 PM#57

2011 was a sad year for MMOs.  Earthrise should have been a great sandbox but it turned out there was no sand, Xsyon should have had big budget investors to make the dev's dream a reality but didn't, and Rift was just bland.

 

DCUO is okay.  Actually, I prefer it to Rift, but it still doesn't have that staying power.

 

I did like Rift's soul system okay, but everything else put me to sleep.

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  teakbois

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12/08/11 2:18:45 PM#58
Originally posted by Puremallace

Next gen means something people will copy...hey sort of like Master Modes in WoW in Panda......or hey those dynamic scaling events GW2 is doing...oh wait GW2 is like a year from release

 

 

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Rift's master mode dungeons isnt remotely original or new, its just adding a 3rd layer to heroic.  Oooh, innovative!  hey, lets recycle this dungeon a THIRD TIME.  WoW is adding something called challenge mode, but its nothing remotely like Rift.  Its a very lame concept regardless (who thought spped runs were fun in the first place)

 

 

And we knew about dynamic scaling events in GW2 before Rift.

 

 

But then, you are the person that thinks Rift's population is growing.....

  alexmino

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12/08/11 2:22:35 PM#59
Originally posted by Watface

Rift has lost most of its original subscriber base

Having to release "new" content and heavily discounting your product is not a "success" story.     

On the one hand you have released a game without enough content to keep the original player base playing for more than a month and on the other you are discounting your product so soon after release to attact less afluent players, pushing your product further around the product lifecycle,  away from profitability and towards decline.

 

 

 

What he said.

So many mmos have failed that the definition of success has dropped off a cliff.

  Nethermancer

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12/08/11 2:24:53 PM#60

I like Trion. I just wish they would make a game with even a single ounce of innovation...........why do all the innovative companies have to be so horrible? 

o and ofcoarse it shoudl get game of the year.....this was  the worst years in MMO gaming since........last year

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