reviewing game before launch is silly. 'nuff said.

Thats just it its not a grind fest. im sorry but if u played tor beta at all the one thing u realize is that tor is not a grindfest.

Sure u have to do quests its an mmo , no offense in an rpg mmo u have to do quests. They dont feel grindy though. 

Im sorry i dont mind when people post stuff thats actually true. Crappy character creator, no customization for ui , although i liked ui i can see why some didnt, 

There are other things that arent perfect in tor but questing and grind isnt a problem or issue and neither is story

This site isnt a site id trust with any themepark review. its called sandboxer for a reason no themepark is gonna get a good grade here

like i said call me when a site taht actually matters puts out a review not all these off the wall sites people never heard of before.

Originally posted by username509

They seem a bit biased against sandbox games but ultimately they ended up giving SWTOR another horrible review.  Check it out here.  http://sandboxer.org/?p=261

I know it's bad, but 2 out of 10 bad is REALLY friggen bad for an MMO.  

Why......

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHY!!!!

WOW I actually have to take up for TOR on this one. As much as I loathe wow clones, that is no reason to give the game a bad review. Gamestyle doesn't equal game quality. Also a sandbox mmorpg site talking about the graphics of any game is a bit of a stretch, to date Darkfall is the highest level of graphical achievement in sandbox mmorpgs. And I love some sandbox features in my games, but look at the games on the reviewers site, most of them are vaporware honestly and one of them has pixil sprite graphics. So I dont understand the elitist attitude. 

hahaha, the only thing worse than the content of this review is the editing! :D

Originally posted by username509

They seem a bit biased against sandbox games but ultimately they ended up giving SWTOR another horrible review.  Check it out here.  http://sandboxer.org/?p=261

I know it's bad, but 2 out of 10 bad is REALLY friggen bad for an MMO.  

Well after reading silly conclusions and reasoning like this:

"Gameplay: 1/10

The gameplay in Star Wars The Old Republic is absolutely horrible. Just like World of Warcraft, Rift, or any other themepark MMO most mobs will just stand in small groups maybe 30 feet apart from each other and will only agro in those small groups. So you may be killing a mob, but there best friend standing just 30 feet away won’t even notice all the loud blaster fire or screams of there dyeing friends. "

I give to sandboxer.org 0/10.

Oh, and when I see comment like this:

"Innovation: 1/10

It’s a StarWars WoW Clone. "

I can only give to sandboxer.org -10/10.

Wondering how many visitors they have.

I didn't expect this much debate over a simple WoW clone, even a StarWars one.

Awesome review, haven't laughed that hard in a long time :)

As you can see below... this site is setting the world on fire.....

http://www.website2value.com/www.sandboxer.org

This is exactly why I never trust review scores from anywhere.  I know pretty much before I even enter the game what I'm getting into, either from reading information on the game, or watching videos.  Fair score from my beta experiences (i got into all 3 weekends) would be 7.5 out of 10.  Some of the starting areas were bland and not very good, however after the capital city "planet"  the game gets very interesting and the story is really great.  Launch client will probably be a little better, so maybe even an 8.

Shortened version:

Arghlebarghle arghlebargle arghlebargle SWG arghlebargle arghlebargle fanbois arghlebargle arghlebargle sandboxes arghlebargle THEEEMEPARKS!!!!

Originally posted by Distopia

Some highlights from the review.

"The gameplay in Star Wars The Old Republic is absolutely horrible. Just like World of Warcraft, Rift, or any other themepark MMO"

"It’s a StarWars WoW Clone. Starwars games have been done to death"

"One thing that’s sort of an innovation is companions. There very creapy"

"This is not the game your looking for."

 

As an aside: Holy spell-check batman.... Creapy? Your? There? Star Wars one word?

It's pretty hard to take a review seriously when there are that many simple spelling errors, isn't it?  lol   That was more of a red flag to me than the obvious sandbox preference.  At least he didn't try pointing out any grammatical or spelling errors in the game.  That would have been too perfectly ironic.

I'm not sure why, but it truly seems that some people are on a MISSION to convince others not to enjoy SWTOR.  People are so fracking strange and twisted.  What is their investment in it to want to convince people not to play?  What do they gain from that sort of foolishness?

i cant understand 'Engrish'

i wont even read the review.... why is a sandboxer reviewing a thempark in the first place? are they looking for reasons not to become themeparkers? lol jeez....

Who is Sandboxer.org..??

Really, are they even a proper website or just a bunch of monkeys?

I've never even heard of them until today, shows you how much they hit the right market!

After I beta tested SW:TOR I was surprised how good it was. I was not really sure that it was going to be that good, but I can say I was proved wrong.  

I will be playing when it launches, that's for sure.

Originally posted by Ethereal401
I agree with the guys over at sandboxer. The world just doesn't need another wow clone.

The world doesn't need video games at all. Some people would be better off if they acknowledged this fact.

Originally posted by rojo6934

i wont even read the review.... why is a sandboxer reviewing a thempark in the first place? are they looking for reasons not to become themeparkers? lol jeez....

Originally posted by Distopia

Some highlights from the review.

"The gameplay in Star Wars The Old Republic is absolutely horrible. Just like World of Warcraft, Rift, or any other themepark MMO"

"It’s a StarWars WoW Clone. Starwars games have been done to death"

"One thing that’s sort of an innovation is companions. There very creapy"

"This is not the game your looking for."

 

As an aside: Holy spell-check batman.... Creapy? Your? There? Star Wars one word?

I thought you might not be serious, but no, this review is that poorly written.

Originally posted by just1opinion

 I'm not sure why, but it truly seems that some people are on a MISSION to convince others not to enjoy SWTOR.  People are so fracking strange and twisted.  What is their investment in it to want to convince people not to play?  What do they gain from that sort of foolishness?

Actually, I think you're spot on with that observation. There's little 'live and let live' attitude to be seen.

I think it's several reasons, simply boredom for one, people not having any MMO or game to play and bored and frustrated making them vent, what I'd like to call the 'grumpy old men' effect how people complain about current state of things and how back in the days in the glory past of their memories everything was so much better. Then there's the factor that if an MMORPG people dislike ends up to be hugely successful, it might be a continuation of a situation they dislike: 'if more themepark MMO's end up to be hugely successful, then we'll never get the sandbox MMORPG that I really want', that kind of thinking, which has people embark on a crusade to bash the MMO they don't want to succeed.

And then of course you have the people who can't imagine that an MMORPG that they themselves despise can be enjoyable for others, a lack of empathy or understanding of the 'tastes differ' concept which leads those people to believe that there must be something wrong with others who enjoy things that they themselves dislike. Since most people consider themselves and their own tastes - consciously or subconsciously - to be superior to that of others, this leads them to the conclusion that others and their opinion are inferior and thus needs to be corrected.

Anyway, those are my guesses after observing these forums for a while

Of course, with that I don't mean the people who have in their eyes valid criticisms about a game that they like to discuss; it only becomes one of the situations mentioned above when they can't accept that those criticisms might not be the same for other people and might not hinder others in enjoying a game like it does to them.