Originally posted by umcorian

If, somehow, WoW continues to be the big thing going from 2012 onward with the MoP expansion, I'm not going to blame Blizzard or the people who play WoW. I'm going to blame its competition for being so uninspired and narrowminded that Blizzard BEAT them with Pandas.

"Look at us. We're Blizzard. We can take our companies practical joke from 2003, make an expansion revolved around them - throw in POKEMON for good measure - and STILL beat you."

All I can say... Bioware, Arenanet, Funcom... step up your game. Because, I sure as hell don't want to see what WoW 6.0 has in store. How about, talking multi-colored Dinosaurs, in OUTER SPACE?

 

Orcs....in...SPACE! [...Space...Spa..ace...ace...]

Originally posted by bloodbone

Originally posted by Alalala

Kung Fu Panda is now a kiddie TV series, so WoW players have something to do while the patch is applied.

 

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First off most north american WoW players WILL try SWTOR so WoW is the majority of your player base.  In fact the game was basicly designed for bored WoW kids.

Second: Having tried the game briefly SWTOR seems to be WoW on Super Easy Mode.  If you find Wow easy SWTOR will be a joke.  Thats PvE and PvP complexity

Third: SWTOR also has the most brutal AI and no complexity to the UI whatsoever.  It truely the simplest MMO I've ever tried.  Even a child of 6 could play this game with ease 

 

 

OK, but try to take in note who there target audience is (the masses). SWTOR isn't catering to the niche crowd who wants a revolution in the mmo genre.

There major aim is to turn a profit, which i think they will do but as for longevity thats another matter of time and patience of MMO players...

Originally posted by Abdar

Read again.. he was talking mostly about the lore of the game, and the fact that, there's really no more bad guys anymore.

To people who like lore.. (not one of them myself sadly) that can change everything.

What happened to the Burning Legion and their homeworld?  They just sitting around watching soaps?

Originally posted by Xstatic912

Originally posted by bloodbone

Originally posted by Alalala

Kung Fu Panda is now a kiddie TV series, so WoW players have something to do while the patch is applied.

 

[Mod Edit]

First off most north american WoW players WILL try SWTOR so WoW is the majority of your player base.  In fact the game was basicly designed for bored WoW kids.

Second: Having tried the game briefly SWTOR seems to be WoW on Super Easy Mode.  If you find Wow easy SWTOR will be a joke.  Thats PvE and PvP complexity

Third: SWTOR also has the most brutal AI and no complexity to the UI whatsoever.  It truely the simplest MMO I've ever tried.  Even a child of 6 could play this game with ease 

 

 

OK, but try to take in note who there target audience is (the masses). SWTOR isn't catering to the niche crowd who wants a revolution in the mmo genre.

There major aim is to turn a profit, which i think they will do but as for longevity thats another matter of time and patience of MMO players...

Bad news for you, every MMO company is out to make a profit

Originally posted by asrlohz

Originally posted by umcorian

If, somehow, WoW continues to be the big thing going from 2012 onward with the MoP expansion, I'm not going to blame Blizzard or the people who play WoW. I'm going to blame its competition for being so uninspired and narrowminded that Blizzard BEAT them with Pandas.

"Look at us. We're Blizzard. We can take our companies practical joke from 2003, make an expansion revolved around them - throw in POKEMON for good measure - and STILL beat you."

All I can say... Bioware, Arenanet, Funcom... step up your game. Because, I sure as hell don't want to see what WoW 6.0 has in store. How about, talking multi-colored Dinosaurs, in OUTER SPACE?

 

Orcs....in...SPACE! [...Space...Spa..ace...ace...]

LOL, but i get the feeling this Xpac will have a shorter cycle than the others. Reason being 1) There is no major boss to fight (seems all of them are resting), and 2) Seems pvp is the focus with them mentioning the Alliance & Horde are back at it..

I expect this xpac to get 2 major content patch before they announce another xpac.

Nowadays WoW =garbage.

Blizzard is targeting kids with their Pandas and Pokemen content. On top of this, they're making the game so easy to play, all you need is one finger and one key to play it.

 A once top game reduced to a pre-school kiddie theme park.

How the mighty have fallen.

Originally posted by erikk3189

 

Blizzard is targeting kids with their Pandas and Pokemen content. On top of this, they're making the game so easy to play, all you need is one finger and one key to play it.

 

One key play is all the rage.  Rift has taken this concept to the extreme.  

ahhhhh, Warcraft has some of my favorite lore. Though I do have to say this seems rather anti-climatic. Wrath's story telling was amazing though.

Stay on topic guys. Thanks.

"wow is so lame and unimpressive, i am so glad that another company is putting a nearly identical game with a better skin out there, i can feel the immersion already"

the above  ^ 100 = the mmo forum space these days

Originally posted by erikk3189

Nowadays WoW =garbage.

Blizzard is targeting kids with their Pandas and Pokemen content. On top of this, they're making the game so easy to play, all you need is one finger and one key to play it.

 A once top game reduced to a pre-school kiddie theme park.

 

How the mighty have fallen.

I so agree with you!   The new adverts with Chuck Norris are comical only because new players haven't a clue what makes it funny.   It was Blizz's cry out to all the older veteran players that quit.   I'll never go back.  Blizz experienced a true "cataclysm" of the kind they didn't intend!  lol

Greatly looking forward to SW:ToR!

4.3 was crap. But it's all expected. A major patch dedicated to the raiders, and not much else. Just like in all the previous expansions. No surprise.

Btw, I'd say the author lost all cred when claiming this is the last patch pre-Panda. Staffwriters with self-made "facts", not the first time we've seen that on this site.

Originally posted by Netspook

4.3 was crap. But it's all expected. A major patch dedicated to the raiders, and not much else. Just like in all the previous expansions. No surprise.

Btw, I'd say the author lost all cred when claiming this is the last patch pre-Panda. Staffwriters with self-made "facts", not the first time we've seen that on this site.

Well, its the last "content" patch (i.e. dungeon/raid patch) the next 4.4 will be the setup for MoP like they do the last major patch before each expansion.  

Originally posted by Netspook

4.3 was crap. But it's all expected. A major patch dedicated to the raiders, and not much else. Just like in all the previous expansions. No surprise.

Btw, I'd say the author lost all cred when claiming this is the last patch pre-Panda. Staffwriters with self-made "facts", not the first time we've seen that on this site.

Will the major event be with 5.0, or will the major event patch come before 5.0?

I don't consider major events a major patch, but some do becaue it contains content.  From m view a major patch is defined as having balance changes as well.  

So the author can be accurate, but at the same time wrong.

We don't know. But we will find out soon enough. 

Originally posted by Nadia

what I dont like about 4.3

 

with Cata, all under level 60 outdoor heroic quests were changed to solo player

with 4.3, the same was done for BC / LK content  -- there are no more heroic outdoor quests

http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_4.3.0

 

the only heroic quests under level 80 you will find in dungeons now

WOW was never hard, but removing more challenge reduces the fun

You have no imagination, you want quests to be challenging remove all ur gear, only wear green or grey gear, no enchants.

Even though I dont play WoW anymore I do like to watch there cinematics. That one however was awefull. So Now I dont play it anymore due to lack of fun factor and now the cinematics looks like something I could do. I might have to rethink getting D3 with the quality blizzard stuff has had as of late.

A few thoughts ...

I thought the cataclysm was initial breaking out of deathwing?  How is it "over"?  That turn of phrase itches.

Given the land is awash in primordial evils squirming to the surface, don't the dragon aspects seem to take the whole end-of-their-role rather easily ... or am I missing a whole book of lore?

The Age of Mortals tagline  does quite seem to fit the atmosphere of the game itself.  The perception of a player actually going through the questlines is that the world are actually leaving behind any semblence of being mere mortals.  It is the nature of any game that uses level for plot control.

Doesn't it say everything that you have this big elaborate cutscene where the "heroes" are actually cut out completely?  The greatest weakness of imposed stories is that in the end, they sideline the players rather than involving them.

I played up to the first major patch in WOTLK and would say I would resub if they brought back servers based up to Burning crusade.. 2 would work. 1 PVP and other PVE. Let the ol timers play WOW the way we enjoyed it.

Just try any other MMO so you will realise you can't play WoW and pandas anymore :-) For me it was DC Universe online - was better than Cataclysm for me, man if you see how beautiful the models in DCU are you won't go back to WoW even though DC can't offer the full MMO experience (there is no crafting, very limited PvE ect., lack of end-game content) - but DC story is amazing, I've leveled 3 chars ot the end just to go through all the 3 possible story-lines for villians. And yes - I've palyed TOR beta - it looks pretty much like WoW in terms of game system ect. but it is fresh, good looking and easy. I mean it - easy to play. Stupid pointless grinding is still there but in a reasonable ammount and  you enjoy it when taken with the  SW story. You don't have to search for quest solutions ect. - you do them naturally. It's fun. To compare WoW always left me with the feeling of doing some routine (not to say anonismic) dirty job rather than having fun leveling.

I have been playing wow on and off, since the beginning, and have had several characters in the end game of each expansion.  The bottom line is, i play to have fun.  When it is no longer fun, i let my sub expire.. then 3 months.. 6 months etc, or a month or so before a new expansion drops, i hop back on, cause experiencing the new stuff is fun to me.

This time i have been away for quite some time.. prob close to a year... but i came back, checked out the new ZA/ZG, and have been gearing up in the new heroics, and LFR (got a few nice items so far)  Recently joined a new guild.. and hopefully can start hitting the raid content.. but i don't see it being very challenging.. i mean with LFR so accessable, learning the base mechanics of the fights will be pretty easy.  Sure normal and heroic modes will be harder and have a few extra mechanics to learn.. but the moment i step into normal 10/25 for the first time.. i will have a lot more knowledge then i did on the old style of raiding.

Heck i remember when i went into Naxx for the first time,  way back when.. i had no idea what to expect...  but now getting familiar with what is in store will be a lot easier.  Resulting in hopefully a smaller learning curve and quicker results.  but will esentially end up with me getting more even sooner.. but oh well.

bottom line is, play while you have fun, then find something else when your bored.. and come back when new stuff is added, so you can have fun again.  

I was in well of eternity last night, (farming for the dam trinket i want off the final boss) hasn't dropped for me yet..  but heck my mage was blasting out 25k dps and i was loving it. 

4.3 changed things.. and added new stuff, and it's fun to experience it.. but after you've see it for a while it does get old...and boring.  so perhaps the new expansion will be here sooner than later and give us all something else fun to extertain us for a while.