I would probably resub again if it wasnt so damn easy. They destroyed the journey to cap, absolutley no challenge in lvling = boring.

If Blizzard had any sense they would make expert server's or something. Bring back some resemblance of challenge.

Originally posted by DarkPony

Originally posted by elocke

Originally posted by Muppetier

why are you both waiting a year or more for more content in a game that you dont play?

A little something called get Diablo 3 and a mount for one year's sub to WoW.  That's why.

Wait ... you are telling me people actually fell for that one?

V_V

Fell for what exactly? For folks who were planning on remaining subbed to WoW for the entirety of the next year, it's a good deal. Considering the amount of annual pass mounts I've seen in Orgrimmar, it's not a small number of folks. Getting D3 on top of it, or 4 month of WoW gametime if you end up purchasing the collectors edition of D3, is quite the incentive.

If you don't play WoW that much, or at all. Then well yeah, you're a sucker, since you effectively have paid $180 for a "free" copy of D3 that you coulda picked up for $50-60 USD.

Back on topic:

4.3 changed quite a bit from a lore perspective, and it's setting up the storyline of MoP, focusing on the mortals, instead of having a giant singular antagonist (and his cronies) that both the Alliance and Horde need to destroy. It'll be a nice change of pace having your main enemy be the enemy faction.

In terms of gameplay, 4.3 changed practically nothing, with the exception of adding the initial steps of "play how you want". Looking For Raid is a decent alternative for folks who don't have enough friends to raid with, or can't raid due to whatever reasons. The mechanics are easy enough where you aren't having to herd cats, but not so faceroll where you can simply brute force everything.

Adding more streamlined Conquest Point gains for doing random battlegrounds is a decent way of shoring up the resilience gap between those who random battleground for pvp and for those who mostly compete in arena or rated battleground, but like to go be pricks in random battlegrounds when they are bored. Unfortunately, the balance in pvp has been extremely out of whack in Cataclysm, even moreso than in previous expansions.

The new 5 mans are entertaining. While it was nice to revisit ZA/ZG in 4.2, they should have added 1-2 completely new dungeons into that mix. As someone who raided ZG and ZA when they were current, I became bored quickly. At least with these new 5 mans, there is a larger gap between inception and them making me want to gouge my eyes out.

The new Darkmoon Faire is quite fun as well. It's a much needed revamp of content that was mostly half done, it's great to see it fleshed out. Transmogrification is also an excellent addition. My main complaint is that Xmog is still far too restrictive than my tastes. Blizzard needs to seriously get over their control complex when it comes to character appearance.

Bottom line: if you are bored with WoW, 4.3 does nothing to entice you to keep playing. At this stage of the game, not much can be changed, unless they go for a NGE style game changing patch. However, if you're still an active player, 4.3 brought in nice changes (Xmog and Darkmoon Faire), additional content, as well as a storyline setup for the pre-xpack event and MoP.

If, somehow, WoW continues to be the big thing going from 2012 onward with the MoP expansion, I'm not going to blame Blizzard or the people who play WoW. I'm going to blame its competition for being so uninspired and narrowminded that Blizzard BEAT them with Pandas.

"Look at us. We're Blizzard. We can take our companies practical joke from 2003, make an expansion revolved around them - throw in POKEMON for good measure - and STILL beat you."

All I can say... Bioware, Arenanet, Funcom... step up your game. Because, I sure as hell don't want to see what WoW 6.0 has in store. How about, talking multi-colored Dinosaurs, in OUTER SPACE?

Originally posted by elocke

Originally posted by Kamandi777

the game is unplayable.  a treadmill.  blizz has missed the FUNDEMENTAL essence of modern marketing.  Variety.  There is not the BEST tomato sauce.  there are 7 best tomato sauces....extra chuncky, spicy, mushroom, extra garlicy, etc.  But with WoW, you get the same thing from every server.  There are two play styles.  Raiding, which is only about memorizing a plan and pushing a button.  Or pvp which is aboput collecting points in sterile little arenas.  THEY DESTROYED the worlds they created.

 

Imagine if a PvE server had roving bosses that appeared in Outlands or Elwynn or Sithius.  And that the best gear available came from these bosses.

 

Imagine if PvP servers had world pvp events.  Capture Gadgetzhan or secure north Stranglethorn.  And that the best gear available came from these events.

 

Imagine if RP servers had constant RP events that only through knowledge of lore, not the ablity to spam a button, gave rewards....the best gear available.

 

I never raid, let alone do heroic dungeons, but I Qed for heroics last night.  Haven't played in months.  Everythging is different, have no idea what rotation to use (which is disgusting that gameplay is broken down into a regimented set of actions repeated over and over----sounds like SCHOOL to me).  I got booted because my dps was weak.  I was booted because I didn't push the buttons they wanted me to push in the order they wanted me to push them.  THIS is the failure of WoW.

That's not WoW, that's PEOPLE.  I've had that issue in Lotro, EQ2, WAR, AoC, FFXI and so on.

Well....from reading his post, he sounds like a troll. He goes on about rotations, which haven't truly existed in Cataclysm, since dps went to a priority system with elements of rotations. Harps on about mechanics (treadmill style play) in WoW that exist in all mmorpgs. Finally, admits that he both doesn't raid or do instances, AND hasn't played in months, but is then surprised when he is removed from groups because of his inability to grasp the mechanics of the game.

Additionally, if he brings his seemingly egotistical, borderline self-righteous attitude into the game, well I doubt he was booted from groups because of his inability to "push buttons in the order they wanted him to".

Originally posted by Naxrius

Mists of Pandaria is coming out Q2 2012 you scrub. Have you never seen Blizzard release an expansion?

Blizzard has in the past taken two years between their expansions, that's why there's an assumption that it will be another year.

Blizzard is not know for getting things done in a timely manner. MoP will probably be delayed past Q2 2012... and if it's not, have fun with all the bugs and/or lack of content.

Originally posted by Ceridith

Originally posted by Naxrius

Mists of Pandaria is coming out Q2 2012 you scrub. Have you never seen Blizzard release an expansion?

Blizzard has in the past taken two years between their expansions, that's why there's an assumption that it will be another year.

Blizzard is not know for getting things done in a timely manner. MoP will probably be delayed past Q2 2012... and if it's not, have fun with all the bugs and/or lack of content.

 

 

It doesn't seem like that big of an expansion, though, compared to the others. How hard is it to whip up some pandas?

Originally posted by Thodra

Glad i don't play this game anymore. SWTOR ftw

LOL, it's like saying, Glad i dont eat red apple anymore, green apple ftw.

Can't hear you over the clicking of my DDE Swtor pre-order.

Originally posted by Kamandi777

the game is unplayable.  a treadmill.  blizz has missed the FUNDEMENTAL essence of modern marketing.  Variety.  There is not the BEST tomato sauce.  there are 7 best tomato sauces....extra chuncky, spicy, mushroom, extra garlicy, etc.  But with WoW, you get the same thing from every server.  There are two play styles.  Raiding, which is only about memorizing a plan and pushing a button.  Or pvp which is aboput collecting points in sterile little arenas.  THEY DESTROYED the worlds they created.

 

Imagine if a PvE server had roving bosses that appeared in Outlands or Elwynn or Sithius.  And that the best gear available came from these bosses.

 

Imagine if PvP servers had world pvp events.  Capture Gadgetzhan or secure north Stranglethorn.  And that the best gear available came from these events.

 

Imagine if RP servers had constant RP events that only through knowledge of lore, not the ablity to spam a button, gave rewards....the best gear available.

 

I never raid, let alone do heroic dungeons, but I Qed for heroics last night.  Haven't played in months.  Everythging is different, have no idea what rotation to use (which is disgusting that gameplay is broken down into a regimented set of actions repeated over and over----sounds like SCHOOL to me).  I got booted because my dps was weak.  I was booted because I didn't push the buttons they wanted me to push in the order they wanted me to push them.  THIS is the failure of WoW.

 

I absolutely love this... The most successfully mmo in gaming history and ths guy is gonna tell them what they did wrong, lol. Why don't you go preach to the 20 or so mmos that have went free to play? They may just need your wisdom. I think Blizzard will somehow survive.....

I don't know what the OP was drinking, but saying this is the last patch before the expansion is ludicrous.  Every previous expansion has come out well over a year after the announcement and since this expansion was not announced until early fall you are trying to tell us that it will be before next winter?  Not likely!  Plus they always have a patch before the expansion.

Secondly, there were no big changes in this patch unless you are an equipment hound and have to have the latest and greatest.  Personally I hate raiding and so do most of my friends.  I don't see that set being a big deal for most of us.

Originally posted by elocke

Originally posted by Muppetier

why are you both waiting a year or more for more content in a game that you dont play?

A little something called get Diablo 3 and a mount for one year's sub to WoW.  That's why.

 

Thats  a WoW player intellect right there for you lol. 180$ to get a 60$ game free. Add in the 25$ mount to to be generous - so you are paying 180$ to recieve 85$ worth of merchandise free and NOT playing the game you paid the 180$ for in the first place.....

Man I am in the wrong bussiness.

Originally posted by MMOtoGO
Wow is still the most developed mmo out there. 4.3 has been refreshing so far. I'm not alone to day the least. The new darkmoon faire us a blast and I'm loving the games and achievements. The same people who day that wow is too casual also say its one dimensional and a gear grind. Make up your mind folks! There is tons of non raiding content. If you choose not to give it meaning that's up to you.

End game is raiding or heroic dungeons, how is that tons of content?

Originally posted by 69Cuda

Originally posted by elocke

Originally posted by Muppetier

why are you both waiting a year or more for more content in a game that you dont play?

A little something called get Diablo 3 and a mount for one year's sub to WoW.  That's why.

 

Thats  a WoW player intellect right there for you lol. 180$ to get a 60$ game free. Add in the 25$ mount to to be generous - so you are paying 180$ to recieve 85$ worth of merchandise free and NOT playing the game you paid the 180$ for in the first place.....

 

Man I am in the wrong bussiness.

Well, be careful not to get involved in any business that requires careful attention to detail  because you missed the OP's follow up reply saying that he still plays WOW when the mood suits him.  So not a waste for him at all.

Playing it a little bit right now, it honestly hasn't changed. You're still going to grind heroics for gear/item levels and then raid a whooping 8 'new' bosses in 3 different modes depending on your playstyle (easy, normal or hard, basically). LFR (the auto-queue easy mode for raids) is a nice addition for people not intrested in joining a raid guild and make it a four-nights-a-week job to play the damn game, and it is probably the only meaningfull addition to the game in this entire expansion as it opens up content to a wider audience.

 

PvP is just a points grind as it always was, nothing changed here.

 

This article title is flat out false on so many levels, the patch changes very little about the game, it simply adds more of the same, a repeating pattern since the game released. It only simplified entry to the content with the LFR feature.

 

I'm honestly getting a bit tired of the seemingly advertisement-like WoW related articles on this site lately. Report on WoW (and any game for that matter) with facts please, not overhyped words.

Originally posted by Ozmodan

I don't know what the OP was drinking, but saying this is the last patch before the expansion is ludicrous.  Every previous expansion has come out well over a year after the announcement and since this expansion was not announced until early fall you are trying to tell us that it will be before next winter?  Not likely!  Plus they always have a patch before the expansion.

Secondly, there were no big changes in this patch unless you are an equipment hound and have to have the latest and greatest.  Personally I hate raiding and so do most of my friends.  I don't see that set being a big deal for most of us.

  While true, Blizzard DID state that they want to move up releases of expansions - no more two years between.  MoP is in limited testing right now, but we'll see how long it takes to go from there to F&F.

  Frankly, the most disappointing part of the patch for me was the new Darkmoon Faire.  On release they tuned down the daily quest rewards from 5 per daily (25 per day) to 1 per, which means that it will take literally years just for the pets/mounts (one mount will now take approximately 5 months)  OTOH they made rep so easy now - the whining from the already insane is hilarious :D!

Originally posted by elocke

Originally posted by DarkPony

Originally posted by elocke

Originally posted by Muppetier

why are you both waiting a year or more for more content in a game that you dont play?

A little something called get Diablo 3 and a mount for one year's sub to WoW.  That's why.

Wait ... you are telling me people actually fell for that one?

V_V

To be fair, I didn't choose to accept it lightly.  I looked back at how often I sub/resub to WoW and it just makes sense to take a deal like that when I would be hopping in and out of WoW like I have been in the last 7 years.  Might as well get something for it.

The minute I signed up for that I regretted it. I currently sub but it's not consistent.  I'm pretty sure it's not 12 months worth or resubbing so it's a waste of money IMO. The other, 'perks', I could of down without really, so there's a lesson there kids: 'NEVER SIGN A CONTRACT WHEN YOUR DRUNK!!' :P

As for the patch itself, generally underwhelming for me.  They can say all they like about having 'limited' resources but we all know most of those resources are going into purchaseable extras like mounts and pets also MOP.  I mean most of the 'new' raid/dungeon content is recycled Wrath areas, (the Deathwing model in the well of eternity instance is laughable as well, when I first saw it I thought Deathwing had come back to the past before someone said it's suppose to be Netharion :P)...who do they think there kidding? The Darkmoon Faire update is welcomed but a bit late and without context.  I mean why all of a sudden has an entire island sprung up for them? 

Blizzard used to pride themselves on quality control it seems these days thats falling by the wayside...

Originally posted by 69Cuda

Originally posted by elocke

Originally posted by Muppetier

why are you both waiting a year or more for more content in a game that you dont play?

A little something called get Diablo 3 and a mount for one year's sub to WoW.  That's why.

 

Thats  a WoW player intellect right there for you lol. 180$ to get a 60$ game free. Add in the 25$ mount to to be generous - so you are paying 180$ to recieve 85$ worth of merchandise free and NOT playing the game you paid the 180$ for in the first place.....

 

Man I am in the wrong bussiness.

You sure are.  If you run your business based on assumptions like that, yikes.  I never said was NOT playing the game, didn't even infer it either.  I plan to hop in every now and again, especially for content patches, so it's not wasted money.  It would only be wasted if they didn't patch the game between now and then as my original comment was aimed at.

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Secondly, there were no big changes in this patch unless you are an equipment hound and have to have the latest and greatest.

the Ops title "4.3 changes everything" primarly pertains to this quote

However with the Dragon Aspects losing their Titan-given powers and becoming mere mortal dragons once more the story-telling landscape of World of Warcraft has been blown wide-open!

beyond lore, I agree, 4.3 changed little -- the ops title is hyped sensationalism with little substance