Originally posted by gessekai332

i am an original star wars fan and all this game did was remind me of how crappy the new stars wars franchise is and how much of a sellout george lucas is.

Yeah, unfortunately this^.   oh well...  moving on...

Originally posted by Benthon

Originally posted by Herodes

I am not old enough. :(

 

I must be the exception. This old-timer didn't like it. :\

If your profile is correct about your age, then you aren't old enough to call yourself an old timer.

Originally posted by Tyvolus1

Originally posted by Baikal

 

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Originally posted by Tyvolus1

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Originally posted by Baikal
 

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Originally posted by Tyvolus1
 EXACTLY...Bioware did what they do best, in fact what they ONLY know how to do, and thats make a great single player RPG.  EA basically decided to label it an "MMORPG" and get people to pay a $15 month sub fee for a single player RPG.  Best part (for them) is that its going to work.  For now at least.

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I'm sorry, I just wanted to check...in the post just before this, arent you the guy who said he had not played and had no intention of playing? So basically your opinion you are sharing here is based on pretty much nothing other than hot air, and we should take it for what it is?
Just checking.

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 Actually it is more comparable to a reasoned opinion based off of many articles, blogs, beta impressions, forum posts, and dev diaries about said game.  If you think someone cant come to an informed opinion on if a game suits their tastes as obtained from the many mediums of information we have at our fingertips you are sorely mistaken.
Next thing you will be telling people at a restaurant they have never been to before, that they have no idea what they might like or dislike since they havent tried the offerings -- you read the darn description guy and then make a decision...make sense ?  i sure hope so.
 

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I'll be generous.

I do believe that people are capable of doing pretty much what you said, but as evidenced by what you have said, I think it's pretty obvious that you arent one of those people. No shame in that.

Ever hear the adage: "The true test of a man's intelligence is to the degree to which he agrees with you."? It sure seems like that's exactly what you've done, sought out opinions that happen to agree with you, and to validate what you are feeling, even if those opinions arent based on fact. See the problem with your train of thought here? If the people you are relying on arent basing their opinion on facts, how sound is yours, and why should any take, value, or listen seriously to where you are coming from?

As far as taste, fair enough, I've always said games arent for everyone, and you should play something that suits you. However some of the more amusing claims, like it being really a single player RPG instead of an MMO could not be farther from the truth, but...to each his own. I definitely respect someone not liking it for what it is, but to dislike something for a perception that isnt accurate sounds more than a little foolish.

 To say I sought out people who agree with me is a bit of a stretch...unless you think biowares own assessment of story driven gameplay is where you are steering your ship.  The fact the game uses extensive cut scenes, and loads of voice acting akin to their DA and ME titles, is not a result of me desperately seeking out those who agree with me, rather it is based off of factual data that relates to gameplay.  I think you are trying far too hard to come across as witty and clever. 

Just want to chime in here real quick.

Yes SWTOR has cut scenes, VO, interactive dialog etc. But...why on earth would that define it as a single player rpg? It's true that it can be played as if it were a single player game. The same can be said for World of Warcraft for example... Is WoW an MMO? Yes. In fact, being able to play SWTOR solely for its story elements is a feature, not a detriment.

If you really have read articles and reviews etc, then you must be disregarding absolutely everything aside from the questing system. How can you not see that this game is a full-blown MMORPG? It has all the standard features. The fact that it has a more in depth, immersive questing system does not suddenly cancel out everything else.

When it comes down to it... Yeah it's your opinion, but your opinion is most definitely incorrect. I could say that in my opinion, the sun is a giant fruit cake, but I would still be wrong.

I agree with the original post. I had a ton of fun this weekend. I was also very surprised at how well the game drew me in and made me feel like I was part of the story! It has been a long time for me to, in having that feeling!!! There were some annoying things that really bugged me a little but I think that was because I was pressed for time and was trying to get things done quickly lol. Looking forward to this one!

Agreed OP.

If people cant get the retail box value out of this game, regardless of whether they choose to stay and subscribe, .... they probably shouldn't count themselves as lovers of the mmorpg genre.

I'm shocked @ this thread. I doubt any of you were actually SWG fans, or true StarWars fans.

As a whole the game is completely fail to appease "Old School" players. My ENTIRE table top, and online, StarWars group has dropped SWTOR completely from our list. It's not even worth being called "Star Wars" unless you like 3D flip-books. Sorry :(

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

I'm shocked @ this thread. I doubt any of you were actually SWG fans, or true StarWars fans.

 

 

As a whole the game is completely fail to appease "Old School" players. My ENTIRE table top, and online, StarWars group has dropped SWTOR completely from our list. It's not even worth being called "Star Wars" unless you like 3D flip-books. Sorry :(

I lol'ed. Your ENTIRE table top star wars group? THIS IS AN OUTRAGE!!

Yes I was into it totally. I am an old Everquest player April 1999 my first MMORPG and I love SWTOR so far. Also am a huge Star Wars fan and I loved the beginning cinematic.

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

I'm shocked @ this thread. I doubt any of you were actually SWG fans, or true StarWars fans.

 

 

As a whole the game is completely fail to appease "Old School" players. My ENTIRE table top, and online, StarWars group has dropped SWTOR completely from our list. It's not even worth being called "Star Wars" unless you like 3D flip-books. Sorry :(

LOL, they said they were "fans" of the original movies/lore, not "fanatics" which I think you and your friends likely fall into.

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

I'm shocked @ this thread. I doubt any of you were actually SWG fans, or true StarWars fans.

 

 

As a whole the game is completely fail to appease "Old School" players. My ENTIRE table top, and online, StarWars group has dropped SWTOR completely from our list. It's not even worth being called "Star Wars" unless you like 3D flip-books. Sorry :(

Oh my shut down the servers!!!!

Originally posted by Teala

 

OK, I was just curious to see if maybe there was something different about playing a BH than say an Imperial Agent, or a Smuggler - something that allowed you to play the role you are titled after.

There is something very very different the skills and playstyle. Simple point but something you should consider.

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

I'm shocked @ this thread. I doubt any of you were actually SWG fans, or true StarWars fans.

I can send you a HD full of my screen shots if you like. What a completely ignorant thing to say. You have no idea what level of fandom anyone in here has.

SWG was riddled with bugs. Please tell me how this is wrong? SWTOR is more stable in beta than SWG was years after release. Don't doubt my experience please because I played it long enough to have an Elder Jedi, a second account, and so on.  I was skeptical on SWTOR through its' whole development, but once I played it, I was back in the Star Wars universe, and really enjoying it.

Do you actually think that your view of the Star Wars universe is the only one? I'm not sure you realized, but the era this game is set in, has very little to do with luke and his ewok buddies.

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

I'm shocked @ this thread. I doubt any of you were actually SWG fans, or true StarWars fans.

 As a whole the game is completely fail to appease "Old School" players. My ENTIRE table top, and online, StarWars group has dropped SWTOR completely from our list. It's not even worth being called "Star Wars" unless you like 3D flip-books. Sorry :(

And I think for every hater you will have a lot of people liking what Bioware have done; Great game that can be fully enjoyed with friends if you have any semblance of immagination.

Sad to hear SWG doesn't have enough of a fan base for it to survive.

The bounty hunter ability you are talking about is called, Death From Above and is widely considered one of the best area of effect damaging abilities in the game same as trooper's Mortar Volley.  While the Sorceror version(force storm) isn't quite as powerful, it is very impressive looking.

Originally posted by Zenjinx

I had low expectations for SWTOR, but was suprised again and again by the games ability to suck me in. This has not happened to me in a long time (and a long list of tried games).

+1

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

I doubt any of you were actually SWG fans, or true StarWars fans.

Son, I am disappoint.

V_V

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

I'm shocked @ this thread. I doubt any of you were actually SWG fans, or true StarWars fans.

 

 

As a whole the game is completely fail to appease "Old School" players. My ENTIRE table top, and online, StarWars group has dropped SWTOR completely from our list. It's not even worth being called "Star Wars" unless you like 3D flip-books. Sorry :(

They are lying to you.

Originally posted by Precusor

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

I'm shocked @ this thread. I doubt any of you were actually SWG fans, or true StarWars fans.

 

 

As a whole the game is completely fail to appease "Old School" players. My ENTIRE table top, and online, StarWars group has dropped SWTOR completely from our list. It's not even worth being called "Star Wars" unless you like 3D flip-books. Sorry :(

They are lying to you.

I doubt it.. i am not in contact with many of the players i used to know in SWG, but what few i am in touch with, have shown little if any interest in SW;TOR, though i must admit, quite a few of them have moved on from all MMO's entirely. SW;TOR, despite its name, is not really a Starwars game, its Kotor online at best, and at worst.. well.. we'll see... 

Originally posted by Phry

I doubt it.. i am not in contact with many of the players i used to know in SWG, but what few i am in touch with, have shown little if any interest in SW;TOR, though i must admit, quite a few of them have moved on from all MMO's entirely. SW;TOR, despite its name, is not really a Starwars game, its Kotor online at best, and at worst.. well.. we'll see... 

I am going to venture to say curiosity will get the better of the SWG fanatics that I know.  I'm not saying they will stay in SWTOR beyond the free 30 days, but I'm guessing they will come at some time.  Kinda like the EQ crowd went over and hung out in WoW for a bit, some stayed and some left...  

You are correct though, I'm not seeing much interest among pre-CU SWG players in SWTOR at the moment.  

I will say that among the "old-school" pre-CU players I know (me included), we have little hope for a genuine game like pre-CU to ever reappear in a form that isn't just an emulator including all the lame bugs and rediculousness that resulted in SOE feeling they needed CURB.

Originally posted by Phry

Originally posted by Precusor

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

I'm shocked @ this thread. I doubt any of you were actually SWG fans, or true StarWars fans.

 

 

As a whole the game is completely fail to appease "Old School" players. My ENTIRE table top, and online, StarWars group has dropped SWTOR completely from our list. It's not even worth being called "Star Wars" unless you like 3D flip-books. Sorry :(

They are lying to you.

I doubt it.. i am not in contact with many of the players i used to know in SWG, but what few i am in touch with, have shown little if any interest in SW;TOR, though i must admit, quite a few of them have moved on from all MMO's entirely. SW;TOR, despite its name, is not really a Starwars game, its Kotor online at best, and at worst.. well.. we'll see... 

Meh, SWTOR felt closer to old-skool Star Wars than those new fangled episode 1-3 movies to me, but to each his own!