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  Vesavius

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11/28/11 8:15:46 AM#61
Originally posted by Zenjinx
Originally posted by vesavius
 

hehe classic weekend tester gushing.

In 5 months he will be pretending he always knew this game was a medicore, even boring, experience once past the gimmicks of VO and the IP.

Still, it's a stable adequate game at the heart of it, like Rift, and is worth the box price for amonth any which way if average quest grinder MMOs are your thing. This kind of hyperbole is ridiculous though.

 

As is yours'.

Give us a break please.

 

You really support his assertion that this is the 'greatest MMO ever'?

I mean... simplistic and silly 'hater' and 'fanboi' camps aside, you really stand by that statement?

  Precusor

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11/28/11 8:21:10 AM#62
Originally posted by vesavius
Originally posted by Zenjinx
Originally posted by vesavius
 

hehe classic weekend tester gushing.

In 5 months he will be pretending he always knew this game was a medicore, even boring, experience once past the gimmicks of VO and the IP.

Still, it's a stable adequate game at the heart of it, like Rift, and is worth the box price for amonth any which way if average quest grinder MMOs are your thing. This kind of hyperbole is ridiculous though.

 

As is yours'.

Give us a break please.

 

You really support his assertion that this is the 'greatest MMO ever'?

I mean... simplistic and silly 'hater' and 'fanboi' camps aside, you really stand by that statement?

For what it is.. id say yes.

  Zenjinx

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11/28/11 8:22:48 AM#63
Originally posted by vesavius
Originally posted by Zenjinx
Originally posted by vesavius
 

hehe classic weekend tester gushing.

In 5 months he will be pretending he always knew this game was a medicore, even boring, experience once past the gimmicks of VO and the IP.

Still, it's a stable adequate game at the heart of it, like Rift, and is worth the box price for amonth any which way if average quest grinder MMOs are your thing. This kind of hyperbole is ridiculous though.

 

As is yours'.

Give us a break please.

 

You really support his assertion that this is the 'greatest MMO ever'?

I mean... simplistic and silly 'hater' and 'fanboi' camps aside, you really stand by that statement?


I support his right to say it in addition to his right to feel that way.

It is not up to you, me, or anyone else to determine if one persons' opinion is wrong or right, but you tried to argue it anyway.

  Supersoups

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11/28/11 8:25:06 AM#64
Originally posted by vesavius
Originally posted by Zenjinx
Originally posted by vesavius
 

hehe classic weekend tester gushing.

In 5 months he will be pretending he always knew this game was a medicore, even boring, experience once past the gimmicks of VO and the IP.

Still, it's a stable adequate game at the heart of it, like Rift, and is worth the box price for amonth any which way if average quest grinder MMOs are your thing. This kind of hyperbole is ridiculous though.

 

As is yours'.

Give us a break please.

 

You really support his assertion that this is the 'greatest MMO ever'?

I mean... simplistic and silly 'hater' and 'fanboi' camps aside, you really stand by that statement?

If someone is entitled to their opinion of calling any X game crap or garbage why can't a person say game is great or brilliant if he is enjoying it?  why he needs to prove to you or anyone else that he is having fun with it?

  Zenjinx

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11/28/11 8:29:28 AM#65
Originally posted by Crazylike
Originally posted by Zenjinx
Originally posted by Crazylike
Originally posted by Zenjinx
Originally posted by Crazylike
 

Would you pay $15 to have someone spill 3 coke's over your head? If you do, then ok, I understand why you would pay $15 to play this game.

What is that supposed to mean? You don't like the game, so anyone who does "would pay to be abused".

Well, he didnt understand why people wouldnt pay $15 for this game, since its "only" $15. Well, why would anyone pay $15 for something they think sucks? I agree, $15 is nothing for me, I have a job, I have a ton of money I could spend on games, but why would I pay even $1 for this piece of crap?

Why are you here asking that? You don't like it, move along to what you do like. No harm / no foul. You added your opinion, but then continued to question why anyone else would pay. No one here is going to try to convince you, so your effort is in vain. Pointless to belittle anyone for liking what you do not.

Not my fault that you didnt see the first post in the quote, because someone was bad at quoting. I was simply asking why anyone who was not entertained by the game, to pay money to play it regardless.


I read all the quotes before responding. Your question is pointless really, because no one stated they would pay for anything they did not like. That is the basis of your argument or question "why would you pay for something you do not like". Well who is this fictional person you speak of?

You stated you wouldn't pay for it. I'm sure there are things in your life, that others would not pay for. It's not a great mystery, just called personal preference.

  Vesavius

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11/28/11 8:34:41 AM#66
Originally posted by Zenjinx
Originally posted by vesavius
Originally posted by Zenjinx
Originally posted by vesavius
 

hehe classic weekend tester gushing.

In 5 months he will be pretending he always knew this game was a medicore, even boring, experience once past the gimmicks of VO and the IP.

Still, it's a stable adequate game at the heart of it, like Rift, and is worth the box price for amonth any which way if average quest grinder MMOs are your thing. This kind of hyperbole is ridiculous though.

 

As is yours'.

Give us a break please.

 

You really support his assertion that this is the 'greatest MMO ever'?

I mean... simplistic and silly 'hater' and 'fanboi' camps aside, you really stand by that statement?


I support his right to say it in addition to his right to feel that way.

It is not up to you, me, or anyone else to determine if one persons' opinion is wrong or right, but you tried to argue it anyway.

 

I didn't argue with his right to feel that way. I said the statement, obviously in MY opinion, was ridiculous and that he was, in MY opinion, a classic weekend tester gushing.

As much as he has a right to express how he feels, so have others. If you support his, I asume you support mine? Or do you only support rights to views that are on your 'side'?

But this is really beside the point I think... you are obviously posting what you have here as a sidestep dodge to not answer the quetion... do YOU think this is the 'greatest MMO ever'? Do YOU think the statement is sensible?

 

 

  Scorchien

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11/28/11 8:37:04 AM#67

Thats quite a pedestal to put a game on that hasnt even launched yet....

 

   But for now i can think of several others i would put in front of it "for now"..

 

  UO

  AC

  DAoC

 

              Time will tell tho .. it is a fun game ........

  Vesavius

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11/28/11 8:40:31 AM#68
Originally posted by Supersoups

If someone is entitled to their opinion of calling any X game crap or garbage why can't a person say game is great or brilliant if he is enjoying it?  why he needs to prove to you or anyone else that he is having fun with it?

 

Ofc he can, he can say what he wants, within forum rules.

Just as I can, in turn say want I want about what he has said, within forum rules.

Thats the nature of forums, and their rules.

 

He is entitled to have an opinion, and I am entitled to have an opinion about his opinion. See how this works?

 

 

 

  Zenjinx

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11/28/11 8:43:52 AM#69
Originally posted by vesavius

 

You really support his assertion that this is the 'greatest MMO ever'?

I mean... simplistic and silly 'hater' and 'fanboi' camps aside, you really stand by that statement?


I support his right to say it in addition to his right to feel that way.

It is not up to you, me, or anyone else to determine if one persons' opinion is wrong or right, but you tried to argue it anyway.

 

I didn't argue with his right to feel that way. I said the statement, obviously in MY opinion, was ridiculous and that he was, in MY opinion, a classic weekend tester gushing.

As much as he has a right to express how he feels, so have others. If you support his, I asume you support mine? Or do you only support rights to views that are on your 'side'?

But this is really beside the point I think... you are obviously posting what you have here as a sidestep dodge to not answer the quetion... do YOU think this is the 'greatest MMO ever'? Do YOU think the statement is sensible?

 

 

You argued that his opinion was hyperbole. I pointed out you were doing the same. That is the issue, not whether or not, the game is the best ever.

If you want my opinion, here it is: Played it, had lots of fun, only game I have ever preordered, need I say more?

Sidestep dodge, I mean really man, what do I have to fear? Your joking right?

  Metentso

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11/28/11 8:50:05 AM#70

Same as saying "Crappiest MMO Ever Crated", simply pointless and meaningless, to be kind.

  hikaru77

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11/28/11 8:50:16 AM#71
Originally posted by sgel

Exagerate much?

The world feels persistent?.. in what way?... it's persistent in the way that the NPCs and Mobs are in one position ALL THE TIME and never move?... sure.. it's very very persistent then :)

SWTOR is far far behind WoW/Lotro/Rift in all the aspects you mentioned.

See you in a few weeks when you are bored.

What are you talking about? Rift?, seriously?. and for what i saw you gonna need a few Months to play all the content in swtor, and im not talking about making alts, in rifit you can beat the game in a few weeks. and swtor bored?, lol, as a pvper is the 1st MMO where the pve is actually really fun. wihtout a single doubt, swtor is the best MMO in the market and is still in beta.

 

  Zenjinx

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11/28/11 8:54:11 AM#72
Originally posted by Metentso

Same as saying "Crappiest MMO Ever Crated", simply pointless and meaningless, to be kind.

Just like posting what you just did. So let's all have a pointles post party shall we. This one is mine

  Vesavius

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11/28/11 8:55:12 AM#73
Originally posted by Zenjinx
Originally posted by vesavius

 

You really support his assertion that this is the 'greatest MMO ever'?

I mean... simplistic and silly 'hater' and 'fanboi' camps aside, you really stand by that statement?


I support his right to say it in addition to his right to feel that way.

It is not up to you, me, or anyone else to determine if one persons' opinion is wrong or right, but you tried to argue it anyway.

 

I didn't argue with his right to feel that way. I said the statement, obviously in MY opinion, was ridiculous and that he was, in MY opinion, a classic weekend tester gushing.

As much as he has a right to express how he feels, so have others. If you support his, I asume you support mine? Or do you only support rights to views that are on your 'side'?

But this is really beside the point I think... you are obviously posting what you have here as a sidestep dodge to not answer the quetion... do YOU think this is the 'greatest MMO ever'? Do YOU think the statement is sensible?

 

 

/edited to remove waffle

Sidestep dodge, I mean really man, what do I have to fear? Your joking right?

Your doing it again... feel like answering the actual question I have asked?

Do you agree that the statement that this is the 'greatest MMO ever' is extreme to the point of being ridiculous, or do you support it? I am only aking you for your clear opinion here on the statement he has made.

 

  Xzen

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11/28/11 8:59:03 AM#74

It's a slightly above average theme park mmo. I give it a B+ or A.

  Supersoups

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11/28/11 9:05:39 AM#75
Originally posted by vesavius
Originally posted by Supersoups

If someone is entitled to their opinion of calling any X game crap or garbage why can't a person say game is great or brilliant if he is enjoying it?  why he needs to prove to you or anyone else that he is having fun with it?

 

Ofc he can, he can say what he wants, within forum rules.

Just as I can, in turn say want I want about what he has said, within forum rules.

Thats the nature of forums, and their rules.

 

He is entitled to have an opinion, and I am entitled to have an opinion about his opinion. See how this works?

 

 

 

As long as you do not ridicule a person for his opinion that is fine. Arguing about opinions of a person is not same arguing about pro and cons of a game. How can you prove a persons lies and dislikes wrong? you can not. Now if someone tries to spread wrong information about a game in name of an opinion,  that is debatable.

 

  Zenjinx

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11/28/11 9:20:00 AM#76
Originally posted by vesavius
Originally posted by Zenjinx

/edited to remove waffle

Sidestep dodge, I mean really man, what do I have to fear? Your joking right?

Your doing it again... feel like answering the actual question I have asked?

Do you agree that the statement that this is the 'greatest MMO ever' is extreme to the point of being ridiculous, or do you support it? I am only aking you for your clear opinion here on the statement he has made.

 

You edited out the important parts of my post to suit your agenda. Nice one.

I answered your question, but you still fail to see that it is not about whether the "greatest ever" statement was true or false (because it is completely subjective, even though you are ignoring that). I responded to your method of disregarding the OPs' opinion. You can't seem to get beyond "the greatest game ever" statement though, and continue to ignore that the OP was expressing an opinion.

  Classicstar

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11/28/11 9:28:04 AM#77

@OP and your topic, are you serious or for real? How can you call the worse mmo ever in history of mmorpg's become suddenly the greatest, pls explain becouse this is beyond me to be honest;)

People should just have fun enjoy the game they like, instead of vomit untruth's on the forums:P

 

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11/28/11 9:36:44 AM#78

I wouldn't say that it's the "Greatest MMO", because that is really dependent on each individual, and their tastes.

I would say that it is the "best themepark MMORPG that I have ever played".

Although I have enjoyed dabbling in other themepark games, none of them have managed to hold my interest for long. SWTOR, for me, has what they lacked: the RPG part. A good story that hooks me and makes me want to see it develop. A REASON to go questing, besides just XP and lewt.

IMO, SWTOR is the first themepark MMO to actually try to be an RPG, and this makes all the difference in the world to me.

  Vesavius

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11/28/11 9:44:14 AM#79
Originally posted by Zenjinx
Originally posted by vesavius
Originally posted by Zenjinx

/edited to remove waffle

Sidestep dodge, I mean really man, what do I have to fear? Your joking right?

Your doing it again... feel like answering the actual question I have asked?

Do you agree that the statement that this is the 'greatest MMO ever' is extreme to the point of being ridiculous, or do you support it? I am only aking you for your clear opinion here on the statement he has made.

 

I answered your question, but you still fail to see that it is not about whether the "greatest ever" statement was true or false (because it is completely subjective, even though you are ignoring that).

And I am asking you a question now thats beyond that, one based on your subjective opinion; Do you agree that the statement that this is the 'greatest MMO ever' is extreme to the point of being ridiculous, or do you support it?

And, no, you still have not answered it.

You should have been a politician lol :)

You can't seem to get beyond "the greatest game ever" statement though, and continue to ignore that the OP was expressing an opinion.

Not true. We have established repeatedly that it's an opinion of his, it has not been ignored. That's been accepted from the very start. I am now, clearly, asking for your view on it's merit.

 

  Zenjinx

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11/28/11 9:49:07 AM#80
Originally posted by vesavius
Originally posted by Zenjinx
Originally posted by vesavius
Originally posted by Zenjinx

/edited to remove waffle

Sidestep dodge, I mean really man, what do I have to fear? Your joking right?

Your doing it again... feel like answering the actual question I have asked?

Do you agree that the statement that this is the 'greatest MMO ever' is extreme to the point of being ridiculous, or do you support it? I am only aking you for your clear opinion here on the statement he has made.

 

I answered your question, but you still fail to see that it is not about whether the "greatest ever" statement was true or false (because it is completely subjective, even though you are ignoring that).

And I am asking you a question now thats beyond that, one based on your subjective opinion; Do you agree that the statement that this is the 'greatest MMO ever' is extreme to the point of being ridiculous, or do you support it?

And, no, you still have not answered it.

You should have been a politician lol :)

You can't seem to get beyond "the greatest game ever" statement though, and continue to ignore that the OP was expressing an opinion.

Not true. We have established repeatedly that it's an opinion of his, it has not been ignored. That's been accepted from the very start. I am now, clearly, asking for your view on it's merit.

 


You fail to see that mine or your opinion on whether or not the OPs opinion is valid, has no bearing on the truthfulness to the claim for the OP. To answer your question yes or no, would be playing into your hands, and give you something else to argue about.

All you are doing now is deflecting the conversation away from the fact that you had no basis in your hyperbole argument except your own hyperbole. That is all I pointed out.

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