The mere mention of *whispers* World of Warcraft causes some to immediately begin to sweat, set teeth to chattering and to cause copious amounts of froth to being spewing from oral cavities. Why the hate? Today we feature a new article to examine this particular phenomenon and why exactly it is that *whispers* World of Warcraft causes such high emotion of the negative sort. Read on and then give vent to your emotions in our comments section.

I am not here today to talk about Cyber Creations' plans to dominate the world however. I am instead here to analyse a certain bugbear that most of our readership hold dear like a very abused teddy bear. Of course I am talking about World of Warcraft; El Diablo, The MMO That Must Not Be Named, The Anti-Christ, Hell Bitch, World of Poop-Faces, That Dirty Popular One - and finally - World of Warcraft? More like World of Gay Craft. Because that’s totally not offensive.

Read more of Adam Tingle's World of Warcraft: Why Knock It?

Sigh, this topic is so 27 seconds ago.... 

But you are correct, there is some validity behind each of your points.

There is also some validity to the counterpoints to each topic as well.

For every reason to love WOW there's a reason to not like what it brought to the genre depending on what you are looking for in your MMORPGs.

But never got to level 90 even once? Last time I did it from scratch at the launch of Catacombs and took me about a month (of not so hardcore playing)

It's sort of telling that the title didn't hold your interest long enough to get to the end game even one time.

Nice write up, and the "World of Glee" is funny and scary at the same time.

You are on point with alot of what you said, for me, "World of Warcraft" will never be as good as "Dark Age of Camelot" was. DAOC was my first MMO so everything was new and different and it was a grind but that was OK because once you hit 50 RvR was there and it was fantastic, until the TOA expansion hit.

After that it was easy to give a new game a try and there was "WoW" almost perfect timing for me. I have been subbed off and on for the last 7 years and the one thing I can always say about it is there is fun to be had, sometimes you have to go through some contortions but you will eventually find it.

We are spoiled with our choices of games these days and I have tried many and am always on the lookout for the next really good one so until then I will probably keep play "WoW" off and on and also "Global Agenda" and occasionally "STO".

I dont hate any game but only have time to play a few.

I for one never said WoW is a bad game, but I do hate it.  I've done my time in Azeroth and I fully believe that were I new to the game, I'd still find it pretty exciting.

I was over in the WoW forums reading the SW:TOR threads... the most common remark about it is that it's not revolutionary... just more of the same old WoW mechanics.  What made me laugh the most is that they feel it's not worth the money or time to buy because it is so much like WoW.  Really?  And yet you still keep playing/subbing for WoW?  I'd bet every last one of those... I won't be buying SW:TOR... will be there on release day in the starter zones along with everyone else.

Everyone is looking to leave WoW.  The only ones who aren't are the ones that never even try other games out at all.  Most everyone gave Rift a spin.  They will do the same for SW:TOR.  Saying otherwise would be a lie.

Some people truly don't like WoW. For whatever reason(s). That's cool. But most who say WoW sucks are only doing so because it's the top dog. If SW:TOR, or anything other game suddently dethrones WoW... guess what? That game will become the #1 target of people who like to talk shit.

I LOVED playing a fire mage solo. Now, the only sensible solo option is frost mage.

So in one move, WoW went from a good game to $#!+

If someone could explain how a solo fire mage can equal a solo frost mage, I would return to WoW today.

Reason number 5 is the biggest one i think.

It's considered "the in thing" to bash on WoW.  And if you dare to say you like WoW, well then, you must not be a "serious" gamer. 

People on forums Bash stuff.  that's all they know to do and  let's face it, that's the only posts that get attention.

For example, on the TOR site I posted my impressions of TOR, listing the things that I like and the things I'd like to see added or changed.  But it wasn't edgy, it didn't flame anything.  So what do you think happened?  Yep, it got one response, then disappeared.

Another guy posted a "5 reasons why TOR will fail!"  where he proceeded to bash the game but interestingly didn't actually mention anything at all.  Just how much he hated the game.

How many responses did he get on his post do you think?  (you know the answer)

I don't knock WoW. I knock the envy of WoW's success by post-WoW developers. I knock the fact that I've played WoW in Age of Conan, Warhammer Online, Aion, Star Trek Online, RIFT, and SWTOR.

The games of old differed from one another. It doesn't mean they were ALL good games, but it meant that I had extreme options. These days? I have the option to play WoW 1, WoW 2, WoW 3, etc.

I just couldnt bear the graphics/visual style... thought it was relatively fun otherwise for the few months i played.

Originally posted by precious328

The games of old different from one another. It doesn't mean they were good games, but it meant that I had extreme option.

To be fair, that just meant "they all sucked in different ways".  What WoW did best originally was dump the worst ideas from other developers, and run with the good ones.

If we launched an AO clone with updated graphics (and didn't give you the title), you'ld be ripping it apart for months.

I don't hate WoW... I'm just tired of it... I'm not going to defend a game that no longer provides me with the entertainment it once used to.  Problem is, you can topple the giant so long as the blind sheep continue to worship it.  That's why WoW is unbeatable... not that it is a game worthy of your loyalty but rather the fact that they feel so much investment in it that to squash it would some how mean the last 7 years of their lives was a lie.

In some respects, the fact that players are jumping to new games quicker than they can reroll, change factions/races, et al may actually be a good thing for gaming as a whole... we need to instill in the developers that our dollar is not going to them because we can't bare to delete our beloved toons, but rather because they offer us something new and exciting... if that means WoW dons space suits and we all board intergalactic battleships, so be it.

Time for a shakeup... not a shakedown.  Take a page from Apple... instead of status quo.. be the guy that comes up with the new ideas that everyone else tries to copy.  Problem is with the competition is that they still think a copy, be it free or otherwise, is what we are looking for.  It's not.  Thus they fail purely by trying to give us what we aren't looking for.

To the OP: Everone is saying they are "tired of WoW".

I think they are right, but not being specific enough with their description for it to carry weight - "tired" is too general a term.

More specifically, the PvE bots are very stupid and repetative in WoW. A lot of the bots are the same with slightly different skins, e.g. - Fighter types that rush up to you or casters at range.

Originally posted by pmiles

That's why WoW is unbeatable... not that it is a game worthy of your loyalty but rather the fact that they feel so much investment in it that to squash it would some how mean the last 7 years of their lives was a lie.

 

 

I think you're way off here. I'm currently taking a break from WoW, as I do quite often. I don't feel invested in it at all. I play it because every other MMO I've tried feels subpar to me. Hell, I wish something equal or better would come out. I really really do.

I am jealous of a company that can house itself in Hawaii. Just sayin'.

I think number 6 on your list should be "Shame - Played it and liked it". All those players who played it and enjoyed it for years, but then 'saw the light'. It's a redemption story and it's very attractive to the human mind. You didn't just get tired of playing, you've heroically bested the demon that was possessing you, and now you have to warn everyone else about it so they don't make the same mistake you did. Above all, they should listen to you.

It is a common human fallacy to categorize everything with regard to themselves at the center of the world.  A game/movie they don't like sucks, absolutely.  So what if it made $400 mil at the box office opening weekend, it still sucks and those people are idiots.

I don't like WoW, ergo WoW sucks, because it is not possible for me not to like something that is awesome.  I don't like it, so it must suck.  It's not that *I* don't like it, it's that it is not likeable.  Any evidence to the contrary is dismissed.

Much like religion.  This is my religion.  It is *THE* truth.  Anyone who doesn't follow it is an idiot, anyone who follows a different religion is an idiot.

And any argument to support WoW usually ends up looking like an argument about religion anyway :)

there seems to exist a belief where since it has 10 million players, and has a lot of polish- that it is unconceivable people can dislike or hate it? Eg, there will be people that dislike it- same for any movie, any game- some people may dislike Tekken or Soul calibur- even if they're quality or played a lot by people- there's also a lot of people that don't go on them.

However, I digress. I think the main problem is the lack of quality mmorpgs at the moment. That is probably part of irritation. Hopefully with these new ones around the block- maybe this will be change. So people can talk about other mmos, than be resentful of WoW being the only A+ one.

Always the in thing to bash on the bigger more popular thing. Course I play WoW still mostly since every other MMO that has came out has done nothing to draw me away from WoW. Why exactly should I stop playing WoW to play the same thing in another game? ToR and Rift for example are basically WoW with prettier graphics and different settings (voiceacting isn't that big of a deal). I honestly have no interest in any game coming out until GW2 and since GW2 is F2P I'll just play both.

Or maybe some of the people who "hate" on WoW are people who previously played and loved the game, but have grown tired of it due to the direction Blizzard has taken the game. They continue to voice their displeasure because they're passionate about the game, and deep down they long for WoW to be the way it was in it's "golden" period for them, and lament the fact that the game has become to X, Y, and/or Z compared to what it once was.

That's the reason I "hate" on WoW, anyways.