Performance is very poor.

Animations are very poor.

Graphics are very poor.

Intro movies are amazing. Absolutely amazing. Guess this is where all the money went?

Incredible.

yea man i have to agree with you, those intro videos were amazing

I dont know why FPS guys keep playing MMOS, just to trolling i guess. Im a MMO veteran, and today was my 1st swtor beta, without a single doubt tor will be the best MMO in the market, the game is just amazing and the PvP is a blast.  i didnt even notice than i was actually grinding, and the combat is fast, fun and dynamic, the game is even better playing with friends. BW did a great job with this game, and the hype will be even bigger after this weekend

Originally posted by Zefire

Hi all im 27 years old and i play games since 1997 i was waiting for this game 2 f years and to tell the truth im very dissapointed.

My system rig 980x watercooled 580 sli latest drivers 12 gigs of ram alienware optx 2310 monitor ssd drive

One word for those who are willing to buy the game "try it before u buy it.It may save u some money especially if u have preordered the collectors just like me.

The only reason i tried the beta was to see if those150 euro really worth it.

I played 2 characters a smuggler and a bounty hunter

What i didnt like about the game:

Character movement animations are awful

graphics are not very good even on ultra

Gameplay is not fun u shoot with guns but it doesnt play like 3rd person shooter it plays like meh...it's not fun

Smugglers cover system is not fun and it doesnt work  well.Furthermore it looks out of action.

it didnt give me the feeling that i was advancing in lvls

Performance of the game is very very very poor even on my system i had 35 fps outdoors.Indoors was better but im not playing the game only for indoors.They may improve that but i dont think there will be much of improvement.

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The only thing they managed to do right is the dialogs but im not playing a game only for dialogs but for it's gameplay.

I conclussion the gameplay of the game was not fun and it didnt gave me the feeling so as to want to play more.It seemed that there were a lot of things missing.

Now ill have to cancel my collectors preorder cause 150 euro for this game doesnt worth it nor my 15 per month.

Back to saints row 3 and waiting for diablo 3

Ps Try the game for your self if u get the chance.You may like it.For me im a very demanding player and if i see some things missing i just abandon it from the beggining.Some things may change but i think i gave them a lot of time to bring it on.This game should have been released by march.Now it releases december and it  still looks like crap.

Peace

 

 

 

Somethings wrong with your PC my friend its a lot more powerful than mine and I was running it at between 80-100 fps on ultra .

I think most of your negativity springs from performance and trying to liken an mmo to single player game .

Originally posted by Zefire

Originally posted by marinrider

I felt the opposite if what you did.  Also, my system is not nearly as good as yours and I ran it fine on ultra with no lag.  Maybe something is up with your system.

Also, I thought the game looked fine on ultra and the animations were good.  The cover system doesn take you out of the action at all, just press f and you roll into cover, imo it feels more actiony then just standing around shooting.

No mate my system is very well i play battlefield 3 with 80-120 fps.

If u think the cover system is good then good for u enjoy the game im used to play more action games.

About the movement animation it seems u havent played good animation games yet.Try some saints row 3 and see what  good animation looks like.

Need I say ANYTHING???

I don't see how you could have been "waiting on this game for 2 years", when it was only a couple of weeks ago that you posted on this forum that these MMO games are boring, and that you were waiting on Skyrim and Diablo 3.  You keep jumping into MMORPG threads to promote Diablo 3. If you dislike MMORPG's so much, avoid them.  If Diablo 3 is what you want to play so badly, wait for it.  

I'm not sure why you expected a MMORPG to play like a shooter.   Most people that are looking to play this will be expecting typical MMORPG type game play.  Comparing an MMORPG to a FPS (or even TPS) game is like comparing apples to oranges.  They are nothing alike. 

My system is nowhere as good as yours, and I play with no lag, other than the occasional lag spike.   And,  no matter how good your system is, network lag could always be a factor.   Besides, you will always have more lag in beta due to all the additional tracking software they have running. 

I'm going to have to disagree with you on the cover system.  it is fun and it works very well.   Smuggler and Imperial Agent are two of my favorite classes. 

Originally posted by kiern

I don't see how you could have been "waiting on this game for 2 years", when it was only a couple of weeks ago that you posted on this forum that these MMO games are boring, and that you were waiting on Skyrim and Diablo 3.  You keep jumping into MMORPG threads to promote Diablo 3. If you dislike MMORPG's so much, avoid them.  If Diablo 3 is what you want to play so badly, wait for it.  

I'm not sure why you expected a MMORPG to play like a shooter.   Most people that are looking to play this will be expecting typical MMORPG type game play.  Comparing an MMORPG to a FPS (or even TPS) game is like comparing apples to oranges.  They are nothing alike. 

My system is nowhere as good as yours, and I play with no lag, other than the occasional lag spike.   And,  no matter how good your system is, network lag could always be a factor.   Besides, you will always have more lag in beta due to all the additional tracking software they have running. 

I'm going to have to disagree with you on the cover system.  it is fun and it works very well.   Smuggler and Imperial Agent are two of my favorite classes. 

 

 

 

Originally posted by Zefire

Hi all im 27 years old and i play games since 1997 i was waiting for this game 2 f years and to tell the truth im very dissapointed.

My system rig 980x watercooled 580 sli latest drivers 12 gigs of ram alienware optx 2310 monitor ssd drive

One word for those who are willing to buy the game "try it before u buy it.It may save u some money especially if u have preordered the collectors just like me.

The only reason i tried the beta was to see if those150 euro really worth it.

I played 2 characters a smuggler and a bounty hunter

What i didnt like about the game:

Character movement animations are awful

graphics are not very good even on ultra

Gameplay is not fun u shoot with guns but it doesnt play like 3rd person shooter it plays like meh...it's not fun

Smugglers cover system is not fun and it doesnt work  well.Furthermore it looks out of action.

it didnt give me the feeling that i was advancing in lvls

Performance of the game is very very very poor even on my system i had 35 fps outdoors.Indoors was better but im not playing the game only for indoors.They may improve that but i dont think there will be much of improvement.

////////////////////////////////////////

The only thing they managed to do right is the dialogs but im not playing a game only for dialogs but for it's gameplay.

I conclussion the gameplay of the game was not fun and it didnt gave me the feeling so as to want to play more.It seemed that there were a lot of things missing.

Now ill have to cancel my collectors preorder cause 150 euro for this game doesnt worth it nor my 15 per month.

Back to saints row 3 and waiting for diablo 3

Ps Try the game for your self if u get the chance.You may like it.For me im a very demanding player and if i see some things missing i just abandon it from the beggining.Some things may change but i think i gave them a lot of time to bring it on.This game should have been released by march.Now it releases december and it  still looks like crap.

Peace

 

 

 

It's so funny, there seems to be a split faction about the BETA... some peopel think the aniations and combat (and tons of other things) are great, while others think they're garbage.

Personally, I'm with you.  The game right now is crap.  AND I WANTED TO LOVE THIS GAME!

I mean truly, I'd rather go back to EQ ONE than play this (which I probably haven't played in 7+ years).

I've already written enough threads about how this game isnt' gonna be what people think (except the diehards God Bless em and fanbois who will NEVER find anything wrong with it) so, not gonna go on anymore in this one.

Just wanted to lend my voice an say yer not alone in crushed expectations.

Originally posted by hikaru77

I dont know why FPS guys keep playing MMOS, just to trolling i guess. Im a MMO veteran, and today was my 1st swtor beta, without a single doubt tor will be the best MMO in the market, the game is just amazing and the PvP is a blast.  i didnt even notice than i was actually grinding, and the combat is fast, fun and dynamic, the game is even better playing with friends. BW did a great job with this game, and the hype will be even bigger after this weekend

I don't know about you but I play all types of games.   I like to be entertained and games is where I find that entertainment.   There have been FPS's that i liked and some that I hated,  same goes for side scrollers, SP's, and mmo's.

On Topic: 

I expected something better from BW,  I guess its true that the best developers at BW left a long time ago.

Originally posted by Fluxii

 

I've already written enough threads about how this game isnt' gonna be what people think (except the diehards God Bless em and fanbois who will NEVER find anything wrong with it) so, not gonna go on anymore in this one.

 

Its people like you who had ridiculously high expectations...everyone else is just enjoying the mmo as is.

I had average expectations and it exceeded em.

Best way to be tbh, I don't think it'll kill WoW tbh, but it'll compete better than those before it.

Originally posted by stayontarget

Originally posted by hikaru77

I dont know why FPS guys keep playing MMOS, just to trolling i guess. Im a MMO veteran, and today was my 1st swtor beta, without a single doubt tor will be the best MMO in the market, the game is just amazing and the PvP is a blast.  i didnt even notice than i was actually grinding, and the combat is fast, fun and dynamic, the game is even better playing with friends. BW did a great job with this game, and the hype will be even bigger after this weekend

I don't know about you but I play all types of games.   I like to be entertained and games is where I find that entertainment.   There have been FPS's that i liked and some that I hated,  same goes for side scrollers, SP's, and mmo's.

 

On Topic: 

I expected something better from BW,  I guess its true that the best developers at BW left a long time ago.

You didn't realize it when DA2 came out?

I'll still likely play SWTOR though.  Many games these days give me about 20 hours for 60 bucks.  I figure SWTOR will at least give me 100 so money well spent so long as I have a bit of fun.

Does the game have its problems? Ya sure, but they're buried by all the things it gets right.

Currently on my laptop, which I bought with gaming in mind, I can max it out. Oddly enough no matter what setting I put it on, the frame rate does not change. I'm fine with the 20-50 frames I do get though, so whatever.

But ya, this game is pretty damn fun actually.

And trying to compare a single player game to an MMO is unfair really.

Well OP you deserve yoru opinion like everyone else,but when you say your a demanding player waiting for 1990's gaming in D3,i question that.

The game is lacking for depth no question ,they could have done more in every aspect.However there is a lot of different areas to explore and each class does have a few cool ideas.My takes is it is worth 23- maybe 4 months entertainement but will lack the depth of a true MMO.

THe game does lack combat variance,it seems like almost every single mob is in groups of 3,they really were lazy in alot of it's design.

Personally i think the game has some value,not overwhelming but i find it at least playble,i couldn't handle 15 minutes of Skyrim or many other games out there.Example Rift, was a lot like Skyrim for me,i struggled to stay in the game for more than 15 minutes.i have played SWTOR for 2 hour stints at a time ,which is long for me.

They pretty much lied abotu the dialogue however,i don't find much difference at all in dialogue other than +50 or +50 pts in good/evil [rare occasions] and i called that dialogue months before this game even came out,i knew exactly what they were going to do. However i didn't play this game for it's dialogue, iknew not to buy into games gimmicks,they never pan out as the dev say they will.

I find it amusing that some people think that they can discover all the game has to offer before they leave the starting planet. You know....the tutorial.

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Originally posted by Wharg0ul
I find it amusing that some people think that they can discover all the game has to offer before they leave the starting planet. You know....the tutorial.
 

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I somehow doubt an on rails theme park with heavy voice over for it's quest(s) hubs and story line is going to deviate much from what is presented at the start.

Originally posted by headen

 

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Originally posted by Wharg0ul
I find it amusing that some people think that they can discover all the game has to offer before they leave the starting planet. You know....the tutorial.
 

 

 

 

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I somehow doubt an on rails theme park with heavy voice over for it's quest(s) hubs and story line is going to deviate much from what is presented at the start.

yeah...'cause no game EVER opens up and gains any depth after the first few training missions, right??

Originally posted by Zefire

One word for those who are willing to buy the game "try it before u buy it".

Ha ha ha ha ha! Love it

Originally posted by MMOExposed

Originally posted by kiern

I don't see how you could have been "waiting on this game for 2 years", when it was only a couple of weeks ago that you posted on this forum that these MMO games are boring, and that you were waiting on Skyrim and Diablo 3.  You keep jumping into MMORPG threads to promote Diablo 3. If you dislike MMORPG's so much, avoid them.  If Diablo 3 is what you want to play so badly, wait for it.  

I'm not sure why you expected a MMORPG to play like a shooter.   Most people that are looking to play this will be expecting typical MMORPG type game play.  Comparing an MMORPG to a FPS (or even TPS) game is like comparing apples to oranges.  They are nothing alike. 

My system is nowhere as good as yours, and I play with no lag, other than the occasional lag spike.   And,  no matter how good your system is, network lag could always be a factor.   Besides, you will always have more lag in beta due to all the additional tracking software they have running. 

I'm going to have to disagree with you on the cover system.  it is fun and it works very well.   Smuggler and Imperial Agent are two of my favorite classes. 

 

 

 

 

What? I see people say that while still being gw2 fanboys as well. Likely he/she is not happy with current gen of MMO and was looking forward to a non MMO to take their time till new MMO come out like gw2,AA, and even swtor. You are trolling

Saying what?  You quoted my whole post.?  Trolling?  No.  You must not understand the meaning.   I was just stating what the OP was doing.  He tries to make it sound like he was a big fan of the game until trying it, but in a post, in the SWTOR  forums in a thread about new beta invites going out, he said that  with Skyrim and Diablo 3 coming out he didn't have time for these boring MMO's.  That was two weeks before they even tried the game, so it is a clear indicator that they had already made up their mind that this game would be a "boring MMO".  That shows a lack of objectivity, don't you think?  It is not trolling to point out that the OP said this was a boring MMO, two weeks before setting foot in the game.  

In a thread that asks if people will choose Guild Wars 2 or SWTOR, and the OP Posts to say they will be playing Diablo 3.   If you look through their previous posts, most of them reference Diablo 3 in threads that are about other games.  In this thread he compared SWTOR gameplay negatively against action games, rather than other MMORPG's.

The OP likes action games and thinks MMO's are boring.  I'm fine with them liking Diablo 3, but they keep posting about it in MMORPG forums rather than a Diablo 3 forum.  When a person has such huge biases before even getting into a game,  you have to take anything they say with a grain of salt.  Pointing out those biases is not trolling.