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General Discussion  » Extreme voice acting, Not an mmo in my OPINION.

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  shinkan

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11/22/11 11:25:23 AM#121

A friend of a friend of a friend of mine have played it, and he says its great. If you cant trust him then i dont know what to do. He also finds the voice acting quite sexy.

  marinrider

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11/22/11 11:25:28 AM#122
Originally posted by cheyane

The game has been created to be played in a certain way which includes listening to voice-overs. But you want to skip that because it slows you down. There are many types of games but this game has been made with this aspect included and you want to skip it because it somehow makes you feel you are being hampered by having to listen to these voice-overs. Then may be the game has not been created with you in mind.

I can only listen to 5 voice actors telling me to kill 10 rats so many times.  Also, I can read faster than the voice overs, so its frusrating.  I'm not even trying to rush to max level or anything, it just gives me a headache having to wait and listen to a side quest for 30sec to a min when I could read the same information in 15 seconds.

  skeaser

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11/22/11 11:27:19 AM#123
Originally posted by marinrider
Originally posted by cheyane

The game has been created to be played in a certain way which includes listening to voice-overs. But you want to skip that because it slows you down. There are many types of games but this game has been made with this aspect included and you want to skip it because it somehow makes you feel you are being hampered by having to listen to these voice-overs. Then may be the game has not been created with you in mind.

I can only listen to 5 voice actors telling me to kill 10 rats so many times.  Also, I can read faster than the voice overs, so its frusrating.  I'm not even trying to rush to max level or anything, it just gives me a headache having to wait and listen to a side quest for 30sec to a min when I could read the same information in 15 seconds.

Most of the kill X of Y quests are optional bonuses that require no questgiver. I found most of the quests interesting and well acted. In my OPINION.


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  Leucent

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11/22/11 11:27:43 AM#124
Originally posted by rickdt

I have been in beta for about a month and a half and i have to agree with the OP. SWTOR is a FANTASTIC BIOWARE RPG, i did not say MMORPG, but just an RPG. Its like playing a final fantasy game, play for 5min and then watch a cut scene for 20.  I'm glad I got to beta it as its not for me. I love star wars, just not this MMO.

 

Now I need to try and get into TSW beta.

Cutscene for 20 mins, please stop spewing BS. The cutscenes are here and there for a min or 2 after 30-60 mins of play. Try doing a few quests at a time, then go back. The cutscenes can be bypassed if you wish to. As I said this is the mentality thats driving me nuts in MMOs nowadays, you just worded it differntly, but you re still saying it slows you done from pl ing through levels.

  VirusDancer

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11/22/11 11:28:11 AM#125
Originally posted by lizardbones


...snip...


I would be willing to bet that it just wouldn't have occurred to anyone in the design process that there would be a significant number of people who would want to read a transcript of the quest giver's dialog before accepting a quest.

Yeah, the thing with the captions for the cutscenes was most likely done for the hearing impaired rather than for the readers.

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  Biggus99

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11/22/11 11:30:05 AM#126

There have been a lot of dumb threads by the haters regarding this game, but this one may very well take the cake. If you don't like the voice acting, hit the f*****g space bar, people, particularly on the side quests.  You'll be missing out on some pretty cool quest lines, not all of which are standard quests, but at least you won't be able to bitch and moan about that as being the reason it's not an "mmorpg."  Btw, if this game isn't an mmorpg, then there are no mmorpgs.  Period. 

So many ignorant people spreading so much misinformation about this game, it's become ridiculous.  

  Leucent

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11/22/11 11:30:53 AM#127
Originally posted by marinrider
Originally posted by cheyane

The game has been created to be played in a certain way which includes listening to voice-overs. But you want to skip that because it slows you down. There are many types of games but this game has been made with this aspect included and you want to skip it because it somehow makes you feel you are being hampered by having to listen to these voice-overs. Then may be the game has not been created with you in mind.

I can only listen to 5 voice actors telling me to kill 10 rats so many times.  Also, I can read faster than the voice overs, so its frusrating.  I'm not even trying to rush to max level or anything, it just gives me a headache having to wait and listen to a side quest for 30sec to a min when I could read the same information in 15 seconds.

Or click the accept button in .5 seconds, my point exactly.

  marinrider

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11/22/11 11:33:49 AM#128
Originally posted by skeaser
Originally posted by marinrider
Originally posted by cheyane

The game has been created to be played in a certain way which includes listening to voice-overs. But you want to skip that because it slows you down. There are many types of games but this game has been made with this aspect included and you want to skip it because it somehow makes you feel you are being hampered by having to listen to these voice-overs. Then may be the game has not been created with you in mind.

I can only listen to 5 voice actors telling me to kill 10 rats so many times.  Also, I can read faster than the voice overs, so its frusrating.  I'm not even trying to rush to max level or anything, it just gives me a headache having to wait and listen to a side quest for 30sec to a min when I could read the same information in 15 seconds.

Most of the kill X of Y quests are optional bonuses that require no questgiver. I found most of the quests interesting and well acted. In my OPINION.

My point just is that sometimes I would rather be able to just read a transcript instead of having to listen to the cutscenes, at least for side quests.  I remember there being a lot of generic sidequests that came from quest givers.  And just because you turn "Kill 10 rats" into "These people destroyed my family, kill them all! 0/10" doesnt mean its a different quest.  

  marquisk2

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11/22/11 11:34:24 AM#129
Originally posted by VirusDancer
Originally posted by Hopscotch73
Originally posted by VirusDancer

Out of curiosity, can you turn the V.O. and cutscenes off...?

You can hit spacebar to skip the chatter.

There is a "skip cinematics" setting, but I've never tried it, so I'm not sure what it does, or if it worlks.

Thanks for that.  Had wondered about that.  Definitely makes that aspect of the OP's complaint irrelevant then.  Thanks again.

Well a single tap of the space bar won't skip all of the VO.  You have to spam it to skip each segment of the conversation which was really annoying.

  marinrider

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11/22/11 11:35:11 AM#130
Originally posted by Leucent
Originally posted by marinrider
Originally posted by cheyane

The game has been created to be played in a certain way which includes listening to voice-overs. But you want to skip that because it slows you down. There are many types of games but this game has been made with this aspect included and you want to skip it because it somehow makes you feel you are being hampered by having to listen to these voice-overs. Then may be the game has not been created with you in mind.

I can only listen to 5 voice actors telling me to kill 10 rats so many times.  Also, I can read faster than the voice overs, so its frusrating.  I'm not even trying to rush to max level or anything, it just gives me a headache having to wait and listen to a side quest for 30sec to a min when I could read the same information in 15 seconds.

Or click the accept button in .5 seconds, my point exactly.

I still want to know that the quest is about, I just dont want to have to listen to it and wait for the person to say it as I can easily read much faster than they talk. 

To say that I should just hit the accept button is to ignore the larger issue at hand.

  rojo6934

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11/22/11 11:39:11 AM#131
Originally posted by VirusDancer

Out of curiosity, can you turn the V.O. and cutscenes off...?

nos sure... but i know u can skip them with space bar

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  kitarad

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11/22/11 11:39:19 AM#132

Where has all the spirit of playing a game gone ?. Have we become so jaded we cannot honestly spend a few seconds listening to a conversation. You are not reading a board or receiving a letter with instructions. You are talking to someone. It is perfectly natural for the person to talk to you and tell you about the quest and you cannot get into that spirit and listen to the quest but you need to grouse about it.  At least do it once then you get an option to skip over the dialogue but to prefer reading because you just cannot get into a game is becoming absurd. Everything has to be sped up and rushed these days in people's lives that you must get the .5s econd option over the 20 second one. I get it we are indeed in a rat race and as a rat one cannot afford to dally even in a game.

  Biggus99

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11/22/11 11:41:27 AM#133
Originally posted by marinrider
Originally posted by Leucent
Originally posted by marinrider
Originally posted by cheyane

The game has been created to be played in a certain way which includes listening to voice-overs. But you want to skip that because it slows you down. There are many types of games but this game has been made with this aspect included and you want to skip it because it somehow makes you feel you are being hampered by having to listen to these voice-overs. Then may be the game has not been created with you in mind.

I can only listen to 5 voice actors telling me to kill 10 rats so many times.  Also, I can read faster than the voice overs, so its frusrating.  I'm not even trying to rush to max level or anything, it just gives me a headache having to wait and listen to a side quest for 30sec to a min when I could read the same information in 15 seconds.

Or click the accept button in .5 seconds, my point exactly.

I still want to know that the quest is about, I just dont want to have to listen to it and wait for the person to say it as I can easily read much faster than they talk. 

To say that I should just hit the accept button is to ignore the larger issue at hand.

You still will know what the quest is about when you hit spacebar.  Your quest log gives you a short paragraph of what the quest involves  once you've accepted it.  So if reading every side quest isn't your thing, then simply spacebar through the conversation, and once you accept the quest go into your log for the short and sweet version.   

  marinrider

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11/22/11 11:42:19 AM#134
Originally posted by Biggus99
 

You still will know what the quest is about when you hit spacebar.  Your quest log gives you a short paragraph of what the quest involves  once you've accepted it.  So if reading every side quest isn't your thing, then simply spacebar through the conversation, and once you accept the quest go into your log for the short and sweet version.   

I'll have to look into that. Thanks.

  VirusDancer

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11/22/11 11:42:31 AM#135
Originally posted by rojo6934
Originally posted by VirusDancer

Out of curiosity, can you turn the V.O. and cutscenes off...?

nos sure... but i know u can skip them with space bar

Unfortunately, I asked my question there not realizing that doing so meant you missed out on what was going on because of there not being the text equivalent.

Not a case of wanting to skip the story, just choose the manner of that delivery...

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  Vhaln

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11/22/11 11:43:47 AM#136
Originally posted by fenistil

While I don't necesarly agree with OP in many things, and I enjoy story in game - I don't see why VO has such appeal, actually I prefer reading over VO, kinda leave many things to imagination which I like, not to mention that paraphrasing and some voices just getting on my nerves, especially if game VO my own character. (if this case with Swtor?)

 

Same here.  I usually go to settings and turn subtitles on and voice volume to zero.

When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  User Deleted
11/22/11 11:53:12 AM#137
There seems to be some confusion as to how the VO works in this game.
First off, this isn't just your regular quest text that is read aloud, after which you click accept.
It is also not a cutscene that you sit back and watch and then click accept.
These are full blown conversations in which you interact. You are talking with someone about a situation....you are not just a spectator.
Also, toggling off the cinematics just bypasses the videos that play when you launch the game. The quest dialogues are not cinematics....or cutscenes in a classic sense.
Hope that clears up some confusion. Yeah, you can use the space bar to skip to the end of a line of dialogue, and then just read the subtitles. But skipping the dialogues entirely is not possible. They are part of the game, and as much a part of your character development as how you spend your points when you get a level.....if not more so.
  artemisentr4

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11/22/11 11:55:35 AM#138

What you are saying OP is that you have no clue about what you are saying. In every case, players streaming have said either they do not want to spoil the story for launch or they don't want to spoil the story for those who are watching.

 

It is also nice to see that there are options for leveling for those who want different ways to gain XP. You can PvP over and over at level 10+ to gain XP and levels. You can also gain XP thorugh the space mini-game and flashpoints. So even if you don't like the story as the OP, you can still play the game AS AN MMO to gain XP and levels. 

 

Thanks for a cluless opinion based on nothing OP. I guess you can see for yourself this weekend. That is if you take off your blinders first.

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  lizardbones

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11/22/11 12:04:13 PM#139


Originally posted by VirusDancer


Originally posted by lizardbones




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I would be willing to bet that it just wouldn't have occurred to anyone in the design process that there would be a significant number of people who would want to read a transcript of the quest giver's dialog before accepting a quest.


Yeah, the thing with the captions for the cutscenes was most likely done for the hearing impaired rather than for the readers.



There are also several NPCs that don't speak English (or whatever your language of choice is). I think the captions come up for those segments regardless of your settings.

However, if you turned the VO off, turned subtitles on and just hit the space bar when you're done reading, you'd have the information, without the wait. Bioware probably figured that would be 'good enough' for people to play the game. You could also just tap the space bar until your character starts jumping and then read your mission log.

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  Ethian

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11/22/11 12:14:45 PM#140

When it comes down to it, TOR is really just another themepark MMO that most will be bored of in 3-6 months. Hopefully we'll see some worthwhile MMOs come out in my lifetime but if not I'll continue to play the only two MMOs worth playing imo.

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