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  Darkholme

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11/17/11 5:48:03 PM#101

Case. In. Point.

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  GungaDin

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11/17/11 6:02:21 PM#102

I think the info was spot on .  The main thing you should take from this, the questing / leveling seems to go by effortlessly.  You really don't feel a grind like you do in most games.  Plus you can gain xp from the warzones as well.  


 


 


  User Deleted
11/17/11 6:04:05 PM#103
Originally posted by I_Return

It would of been nice if this was an actual video with objectives  look at the game. But this is not, it is a viral campaign by EA / Bioware.

I feel we will see a new method of marketing with bIoware with this video being one of many viral adverts. It is a complete turn off for me to see how marketing out ways what is inside of the game,

I'm as paranoid as the next guy when it comes to corporate sleeziness, but what makes you so sure? Beyond the obvious bias of this website to showcase positive impressions, what makes you think she's in EA's "Pokket"?

 

  Luma

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11/17/11 6:22:16 PM#104

to those that have demoed the game i have a question. Does the alien or droid  VO get repetitive? that is my  big concern is that their VO will become anyonging and will make me want to speed read through. After playing mass effect and all of its aliens  speaking english, it makes me think repetitive VO was a problem and bioware is taking this step backwards for the star wars name 

  Dren_Utogi

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11/17/11 6:24:14 PM#105

The thing about marketing, it is done by a 3rd party. Hey , lets get some cred by doing other games like Rift, and then go into the Bioware marketing mode. The fact that she looks like a booth babe is another red light that this simply sin't for real. The wig, ect is all gimmicks to distract you from the purpose of the video, plug a game,

 

It is cool She is doing this but without Objectivity  it is pointless to even listen.

 

"Questing doesn't feel like a grind" to you , but for 100k othe rpeople who playee LOTRO and said the same thing , another 50k will say it felt like a grind. It is just opoorly produced video that simply does one thing "plug swtor",

reviews are !@#$ing stupid. Play what you love.

  Icewhite

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11/17/11 6:29:45 PM#106
Originally posted by I_Return

It is cool She is doing this but without Objectivity  it is pointless to even listen.

 

That may or may not be true.  But I suspect we're thinking about different people lacking objectivity.

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  Madimorga

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11/17/11 6:30:27 PM#107

Of interest to me is the fact that she doesn't normally like leveling and questing yet enjoyed it in SWTOR.  They must have done some things right.


 


As for people worrying that any reviewers are in EA's pockets, while I love a good conspiracy theory more than the next gamer, on this one I have to say, who cares?  You're going to get a chance to try the game for yourselves.  When you do, simply disregard any glitches that could be related to server stress testing and check SWTOR out for yourselves.  It really doesn't get any more straightforward than that.


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  Biggus99

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11/17/11 6:31:52 PM#108

Originally posted by I_Return

It would of been nice if this was an actual video with objectives  look at the game. But this is not, it is a viral campaign by EA / Bioware.


I feel we will see a new method of marketing with bIoware with this video being one of many viral adverts. It is a complete turn off for me to see how marketing out ways what is inside of the game,



 


LOL...wow...


  Leucent

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11/17/11 6:32:10 PM#109
Originally posted by Fratman

The questing is good because it's where Bioware decided to place all their focus. The problem is that the voiceover cutscenes are so much better than the normal gameplay it's distracting and only serves to remind you how the rest of TOR is mediocre. 

Then there's the obvious fact that questing and cutscenes can only last so long. Eventually you hit endgame and there's no more huge decisions to make or story changes to follow. At that point all you can do is queue for instances endlessly and pray that Ilum doesn't suck too much. At level cap TOR becomes a less polished version of WoW with about 25% of WoW's content. I don't see much long-term value. I expect a solid 2-3 months of gameplay before it becomes played out.

Clueless.

  User Deleted
11/17/11 6:34:32 PM#110
Originally posted by I_Return

The thing about marketing, it is done by a 3rd party. Hey , lets get some cred by doing other games like Rift, and then go into the Bioware marketing mode. The fact that she looks like a booth babe is another red light that this simply sin't for real. The wig, ect is all gimmicks to distract you from the purpose of the video, plug a game,

 

It is cool She is doing this but without Objectivity  it is pointless to even listen.

 

"Questing doesn't feel like a grind" to , but for 100k othe rpeople who playee LOTRO and said the same thing , another 50k will say it felt like a grind. It is just opoorly produced video that simply does one thing "plug swtor",

I completely understand your point of view, and for all I know, you could be right.

On the other hand, she could be someone who's marketing herself for the gamer audience and legitimately wanting to contribute to/ participate in the online media domain.

Just take all media with a grain of salt and for what it's worth. In no way should someone else's impression constitute 100% of your decisional power.

Corporate influence is nefarious and omnipresent, but it shouldn't detract from our enjoyment as aware and consenting adults.

  Dren_Utogi

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11/17/11 7:11:04 PM#111

I guess when I see some one being artifical, it kind makes whatever they say  not really creditable. Be yourself, and be real with the games , leave the script at home.

 

Ripper X is pretty funny and he does a good job but this is just tacky and  uninformative

reviews are !@#$ing stupid. Play what you love.

  MMO.Maverick

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11/17/11 7:24:37 PM#112
Originally posted by I_Return

I guess when I see some one being artifical, it kind makes whatever they say  not really creditable. Be yourself, and be real with the games , leave the script at home.

 

Ripper X is pretty funny and he does a good job but this is just tacky and  uninformative

Shrug. To you, maybe, to others not.

Personally, I don't think it's how she said it to some people complaining in this thread but what she said, in that she was too positive to their taste about a game they themselves are negative about.

(some) people who dislike a game have trouble accepting it when someone else is positive or likes the game they're negative about. Since they can't believe other people having fun or enjoying a game they're against, often all kinds of arguments are dragged into it to discredit the opinion or person giving that positive review.

 

I have no trouble accepting that there are people who're negative or dislike a game I'm interested in, tastes differ, I do wish though that some of those game bashers and critics could accept that other people can like and enjoy a game or gamestyle they themselves can't, without the need to discredit those persons' opinion.

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The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."

  User Deleted
11/17/11 7:28:03 PM#113
Originally posted by I_Return

I guess when I see some one being artifical, it kind makes whatever they say  not really creditable. Be yourself, and be real with the games , leave the script at home.

 

Ripper X is pretty funny and he does a good job but this is just tacky and  uninformative

I am just the opposite. I think ripper x spends more time trying to be funny than actually being informative. And...his fake accent is so annoying.

  Wizardry

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Joined: 8/27/04
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Perhaps tomorrow will be better.

11/17/11 7:40:43 PM#114
Originally posted by Pokket



Originally posted by Wizardry




Originally posted by erictlewis

The audio was terible, the music enough to make your ears blead.  Sorry I would rather have an article to read instead of some vidoe podcast that has a bad adio and even worse video presentation.

So question needs to be asked,is this her own vblog or does she work for some company and feeding us nothing but advertising videos?If it is her own,good job but i suggest not sounding like you are reading from a paper and give your heart felt impressions,they are much more real that way.


No I do not work for an advertising company. Everything you hear in my videos are my opinions on a video game and no one elses (well, I mean people can have the same opinion lulz XD). I have a really bad memory so I write down everything I want to address in the video (sometimes there are TONS of things!). I'll try to get better about not sounding like I am reading =) Thanks for the feedback!


I am also working on a transcript to go with future episodes.


In regards to me not liking TOR before... It's not that I didn't like it, it was just that I was skeptical. I'm skeptical of every unreleased game. And, before I have a chance to play it, I'm not going to call it "good" or "bad". I've played TOR a bit now, I think I can definitely form a first impression of it, at least for myself ~.^

I appreciate your response a totally honest one,i knew it seemed rather obvious you were reading off a paper.

Now what caught my eye the most is your satatement on "SKEPTICAL".

That is exactly how i view games,not becuase i am skeptical by nature,but all the games i have played give me no other reason than to be skeptical.

Grats on your vblog it came across as being professional......gamingface.com is your website?

http://www.youtube.com/user/Napolianboo#p/u/15/rCYLLQCNc1w
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  Xondar123

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11/17/11 7:53:11 PM#115
Originally posted by whilan

All i will say is minus the pvp because i didn't get to that...i totally agree with what she said.

Yep, I also agree 100%, the preview was spot on with my game experience.

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  Dren_Utogi

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Joined: 8/21/10
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11/17/11 7:53:52 PM#116

forming an opnion of a game for yourself is one thing, but to spread it to every mmorog and SwTOR site online as some kind of "preview" is another. You previewed nothing, you simply stated your opinion.

 

a preview is a indepth look as specific elements of a title, not a "it didnt feel like questing at all and there is no quest grind" That is a subjective marketing termonolgy for people to bite into. Regardless if it was done on purpose or simply by inexperience at "previewing" games.

 

If you previewed rift the same way as this game, you might want to pull all those videos down now cause they will come back to haunt you. As well as any kind of pattern  that can be dectected in negative reviews that lead into you current SwTOR  "era"

reviews are !@#$ing stupid. Play what you love.

  lizardbones

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11/17/11 7:55:05 PM#117


Originally posted by Xondar123


Originally posted by whilan
All i will say is minus the pvp because i didn't get to that...i totally agree with what she said.


Yep, I also agree 100%, the preview was spot on with my game experience.



Ditto.

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  lizardbones

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11/17/11 7:57:34 PM#118


Originally posted by I_Return
forming an opnion of a game for yourself is one thing, but to spread it to every mmorog and SwTOR site online as some kind of "preview" is another. You previewed nothing, you simply stated your opinion.
 
a preview is a indepth look as specific elements of a title, not a "it didnt feel like questing at all and there is no quest grind" That is a subjective marketing termonolgy for people to bite into. Regardless if it was done on purpose or simply by inexperience at "previewing" games.
 
If you previewed rift the same way as this game, you might want to pull all those videos down now cause they will come back to haunt you,



It's not any different than any other 'Preview' done on mmorpg.com. They're all quick little intros to the game, with the personal opinions of the presenters made evident.

Also, how long are we supposed to wait for Rift to fail? First is was a month, then it was three months, etc. That time when Rift is a total 'failure' keeps getting stretched out. When is it going to happen?

I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.

  Dren_Utogi

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11/17/11 8:00:58 PM#119

So you are saying that this was simply a fanview, and nothing of real substance ?

reviews are !@#$ing stupid. Play what you love.

  gobla

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11/17/11 8:02:40 PM#120
Originally posted by I_Return

forming an opnion of a game for yourself is one thing, but to spread it to every mmorog and SwTOR site online as some kind of "preview" is another. You previewed nothing, you simply stated your opinion.

 

a preview is a indepth look as specific elements of a title, not a "it didnt feel like questing at all and there is no quest grind" That is a subjective marketing termonolgy for people to bite into. Regardless if it was done on purpose or simply by inexperience at "previewing" games.

 

If you previewed rift the same way as this game, you might want to pull all those videos down now cause they will come back to haunt you,

You're talking about a review. This is not a review, this is a preview.

There's a difference between the two.

A review is an indepth look at specific elements of a title.

A preview is a first impression and initial look.

By it's very nature a preview is never as extensive or objective as a review since the available material is limited and not yet final.

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