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News & Features Discussion  » General: Five Reasons Skyrim Should be an MMO

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11/14/11 1:57:23 PM#61

My friends and I have always been talking about this since Morrowind. However, not an MMO, too many issues and differences. But a compromise could be made.

How about just multiplayer, so you and 3 friends could band up? [Not for me, there are other RPG's out there that do this, and will do that in the future].

Or/and, just have a seperate area, like a "lobby" server where you can meet up out of the singleplayer game? With just friends, or anyone, either choice.

You could tell tales of your latest quests whilst sharing some Mead, show off your shiny new weapons, and maybe trade items. Maybe even a square or an arena to duel in, either to the death, or till one player yields, with maybe a system to let people bet on the outcome? I really hope they impliment something like this in a future game!

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11/14/11 2:23:32 PM#62
Originally posted by teakbois

Originally posted by forest-nl

It will NEVER happen period stop wishing.

And i realy hope it will never happen is the BEST RPG series out there and Skyrim is aweome SOLO game that should stay SOLO.

So many MMO'S already and the ONE RPG that's solo but feels it have a similar world like mmo you wanne change bah:(

Lets cherrish this MARBLE, so few RPGs that give you a huge open world with total freedom in solo game should stay solo.

I think if they made it a MMO it would be dumb down so much into a themepark whole game would be a disgrace to the SOLO counter part.

Elder Scroll forever SOLO!!!


No one wants a dumbed down version as an MMO, that would defeat the point.  Theres actually FAR more games that give you total freedom as single player games than there MMORPGs that do it.  No MMO since UO has given the type of freedom that many people want.


Plus, you already have your solo Skyrim, why be selfish for no reason and not allow others to have an MMO version?  Not changing whaats in your hands.

What i mean is that bethesda  use there talent and time to create solo games and not use there resources and time to develop a MMO i think will be end of Elder Scrolls series, if another developer wanne make a mmo ala Skyrim go for it. But not Elder Scrolls those are for the solo fans:)


Closest game that ressemble Elder Scroll series is Darkfall.

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People simply can't create fun for themselves!

11/14/11 2:34:48 PM#63

What are you thinking?!? Those reasons are WEAK for wanting Skyrim to be a MMOG. Skyrim has the skill-less system that peope "want", but only want in a SINGLE player RPG. I remember a game that recently came out that had this type of free pick and choose system, laid out a bit differently but the players stopped playing BECAUSE it is RETARDED in a MMOG. Don't get me wrong, some of the "Skyrim" reminds me of Rift, WoW, and now the "living world" is similar to Guild Wars 2 style. I would never play a game if Skyrim was the key development design. It's like tossing in Dragon Nest with some Rift "events", and TOR talking and interaction with npc. No, I do not WANT that kind of game, there is too much you can do with current style of games than go back to the caveman days where POOR design gave challenge to players.

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11/14/11 2:41:19 PM#64

an elder scrolls mmo would just be a generic mmo. The things that make TES great would have to be changed completely in order to be made into an MMO so it'ds pointless. Like others have said, adding co-op or multiplayer would be good if it's done right. But as an mmo it wouldn't be TES anymore. Because someone has to lose and not everyone can be whatever they want because other players will be there to step all over that.



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11/14/11 2:51:08 PM#65

Originally posted by marinrider

Originally posted by Yuui

How about the most clear reason why?

for the same reason Bordelands should have been a mmo.

it just feels friggin empty and lifeless.  

Now games like the ones bioware used to put out give you a cast of companions, etc, interactions that make it LESS lifeless and more like a story.

In this? "yay i got a house....and?"

For such a huge box there's just not enough sand in it. 

The world is perfect for a shared played experience, be it co-op or mmorpg. as purely singleplayer game? not really.



Have you played Skyrim yet?  From what I hear the world feels lively.  I never really had the lonliness problem in Oblivion or Morrowwind, so maybe your just not suited to SPRPGs.

I think, and so does the Bethesda project manager, that a TES game would be terrible as multiplayer because it would detract from the world.


I never had that problem with morrowind aand Oblivion frankly alrady had a bi tof that empty feel. 


With skyrim, sure you get dragons flying around, quests, etc, but characters are, IMO, a LOT less lively than in Oblivion or Morrowind. I cared for total of one guy(the old guy leader of Companions), but otherwise meh. There's no real interaction going  on even though npcs react to stuff that happens around them.  And then I bought a house. And entered it. And it hit me of just how empty the world feels character-wise. 


to put it in less words: most of time, you feel like you are the ONLY ONE alive in the entire damn world. 


Skyrim is just begging for some advanced and interesting companion mechanics, co op or mmorpg stuff. 



Frankly, while Skyrim is aesthetically pleasing and has decent mechanics, Morrowind remains unrivaled champion of Elder Scrolls franchise. :)



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11/14/11 2:56:04 PM#66
Yeah cause the secret project they've been working on since 2006 couldn't possibly be an elder scrolls mmo...

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11/14/11 3:07:02 PM#67
Originally posted by Yuui

I never had that problem with morrowind aand Oblivion frankly alrady had a bi tof that empty feel.

With skyrim, sure you get dragons flying around, quests, etc, but characters are, IMO, a LOT less lively than in Oblivion or Morrowind. I cared for total of one guy(the old guy leader of Companions), but otherwise meh. There's no real interaction going  on even though npcs react to stuff that happens around them.  And then I bought a house. And entered it. And it hit me of just how empty the world feels character-wise. 

to put it in less words: most of time, you feel like you are the ONLY ONE alive in the entire damn world. 

Skyrim is just begging for some advanced and interesting companion mechanics, co op or mmorpg stuff. 

Frankly, while Skyrim is aesthetically pleasing and has decent mechanics, Morrowind remains unrivaled champion of Elder Scrolls franchise. :)

Exact opposite for me. Skyrim feels like a living breathing world. I still get that singleplayer feeling, but when I play I get really involved with the characters. My favorite character I've met is probably Relof. Relof is the first character you see when you start the game sitting across from you. I noticed some people choose to go with Hadvar in the beginning of the game instead of going with Relof, which is a shame to me since I always thought Hadvar was a coward Imperial - he should have enforced Imperial law better or something and I didn't like his voice acting as much lol.

I agreed with the rest.

Buying a house is for those people who have acquired too much gold to spend it on something. It's more of a trophy. You can then go around looking for things to stuff your house full of. It's something to do after you get bored of the game. You can also get married and your spouse will live there and cook food for you once a day lol. But not that important.


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11/14/11 3:21:22 PM#68

Skyrim shouldn't be an MMORPG. However, I'm open to the discussion of a MMORPG game called The Elder Scrolls. Skyrim is just one country in The Elder Scrolls world. I'd want to see all of the different lands put in the MMORPG.

BUT, do I really want The Elders Scrolls MMORPG? Well, past experience with MMORPG's show that things are dumbed down for the masses and features that people clamour for the most are taken out to cater to the lowest common denominator. For example, the skill system would either go away in lieu of a class-based system or would be "balanced," which I have no desire for. Quests would probably be dumbed down in order to accomodate for 1000's of more quests to keep people subscribed.

Then you have quests that change the world. I like it that in SPG's I can change the world through my actions. If you have several thousand players on the same server, whose world gets changed? Phasing and instancing has their own problems.

Then you have players who ruin the game. People break immersion by arguing or talking about non game stuff in chat channels, they spoil the game, scream at developers to dumb the game down because it's too hard, jump on mail boxes, run around naked...must I go on? I mean, having other people in an Elder Scrolls game would be the worst feature in that game.

Now a good Co-op game akin to how Borderlands was setup for Co-op, except only allow characters to start fresh and be specific to that game, I'd be down for. Now you'll have a team of hero's, with the difficulty scaled up to accomodate that, and who follows the storys together. You control who plays with you, thus removing the people that would ruin the immersive experience.

Turn The Elder Scrolls into an MMORPG and it'd be the end of the series. Instead of an open world that changes based on your decisions, a skill based system that is rightfully not balanced, and a challenging and immersive world to live in, you'll have a linear quest based path, because that's what sells...else people will complain about the grind, instant dungeons, either FFA PvP or Battlegrounds, and raids.

No thanks.


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11/14/11 3:36:07 PM#69

Zenimax, parent company of Bethesda, created Zenimax Online for MMOs. So it's possible they are working on Elder Scrolls online.


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11/14/11 3:50:34 PM#70
Dont care for an immortal just co-op DLC MAYBE?

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11/14/11 5:04:49 PM#71
Again, it's in development. Trust.

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11/14/11 5:14:53 PM#72





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11/14/11 5:23:30 PM#73

Honestly money is the reason this type of MMO isn't being developed. All the server calls to them from every action in the game would blow them up instantly. It could happen, but it wouldn't be on a MMO scale of 1000+ players, shoot probably not even 100+. You could probably do it like Blizzard does with Diablo, small rooms of upto 8. Im kind of wondering if Skyrim might be able to be modded to have multiplayer capabilities. Hmm


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11/14/11 5:24:02 PM#74

now you just described Ultima Online :-) except a few minor things like the bounty system.


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11/14/11 5:24:25 PM#75

All this article did was give examples why a game like Skyrim is better than most mmorpgs.  Its an RPG.  And a very good one.  I think whenever mmo enthusiasts see one they want it to become an mmorpg! 


Which is rediculous.  I think a lot of mmo fans would rather all great RPGs become mmorpgs.  And in the process they would be watered down. 


There's probably reasons, but I find that most all mmorpgs seem like a single player game that could have come out half a decade ago or more.  They seem constantly behind the curve in almost every regard.  The only real benefit?  The ability to play with a mass load of other people. 


If you turn Skyrim into another mmorpg, it would probably be a watered down version.   And thats something Elder Scrolls fans dont need.  If you feel confused why a game like Skyrim seems to top most of the mmorpgs you've played Im hardly surprised.  Maybe mmorpgs arent the pinnacle of the RPG genre?  Ever consider that?  Because they arent.  I dont see that changing any time soon. 


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11/14/11 5:34:26 PM#76

I don't think it should be.... and here is why:

It will come to a already saturated fantasy market with really nothing new. While it excells at what it does (being a rpg), I do not believe it should be an mmo. Yes it is a great, wonderful game, even if it is slightly overhyped. But, does it bring annything new MMO wise to the table? I say no. It is great as a rpg, but I believe it won't be as an MMO simply becuase of how little it will actually contrbute in the end.

I've done some investigating/ asking those who have already played it. Now, while most of them haven't played it long enough to actually come to a finalised opinion without other than "Oh, this Company made it" or it does this better than compared to OTHER rpgs, so this statement may be obsulite within time (though there is much evidence it isn't simply becuase I asked them simple, straightfoward questions and forced simple, straightfoward answers out of them). Here is what I got:

1. Awesome graphics....

2. Constantly updated quest lines

3. Quests can have 2 different endings

4. While your story may be different, you always end in the same spot

5. Awesome graphics, bro

6. Nice combat (though still grindy...)

Is any of this really new to the MMO genre? Maybe to the common rpg genre, but not to the MMO genre.

P.S. Again, this is my basic idea of what I got from this game by asking the other people.


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11/14/11 5:41:44 PM#77

I was just saying on another Forum, I don't like single player RPG's, I just don't see the point playing them. The combat is really boring and easy, If this was to be made into an MMO it would have to some how be alot more fun.

I bought Skyrim today and after 3hrs Im pretty board, As much as I want to carry on and become all powerful it just feels like a waste of time in single player. Not sure If I could play this game as it is as an MMO.


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11/14/11 5:46:08 PM#78

Because I want it eh?... A world just to live in... We had that already, it was called SWG Pre-cu/NGE.


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11/14/11 6:01:13 PM#79
I don't want you people in there ruining my experience with Barrens Chat, glad it's not an MMO.

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11/14/11 6:09:11 PM#80
Originally posted by SeriphinX
I don't want you people in there ruining my experience with Barrens Chat, glad it's not an MMO.

I have to agree. My MMO experience has already been destroyed. Charge me $100 if need be, but leave me with something to enjoy.


Here's to looking forward to the Lexus of the MMOs (charging more for specificity). I only hope I can live long enough to enjoy it. Until then, please, no.

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