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  Kwintpod

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11/10/11 2:26:57 AM#41

That's like saying the majority of WoW player play to fill their talent tree, instead of tackling hard raids and get better gear.

 

  Magnetia

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Any fool can know. The point is to understand.

11/10/11 2:28:29 AM#42

I think we should be clear as to what Pay to Win actually implies. In my eyes pay to win is where players who do decide to pay an amount gets an improvement which cannot be obtained in game. For example in Caesary a browser based city building/war game has items which allow you to lvl up past the free lvl cap. At this point a paying player has an advantage that the non paying player cannot possibly obtain in game.

 

I mainly played guild wars PvE start to end and only got into casual pvp in there but at no point in time did i feel that another player had any advantage over me who had not spent an extra cent on top of the expansions.

 

The skills i couldn't obtain through pve (rarer elite skills in faraway places - feast of corruption I hate you) were easily obtained using PVP in-game currency.

 

I see these items as more of a 'I don't play the PVE i just want the skills' or 'I don't want to buy that expansion but those skills would be kick ass'.

 

Play for fun. Play to win. Play for perfection. Play with friends. Play in another world. Why do you play?

  Draftbeer

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11/10/11 2:31:06 AM#43
Originally posted by wowclone
Originally posted by 0vergil0

zip

The minority wastes their time with prestige armor or PVP, the majority like me played to unlock skills for our characters and heros in PvE and when the majority like me was bored with that the majority like me created alts.

Show proof or it didn't happen.

  0vergil0

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11/10/11 2:32:25 AM#44

lol wouhouu collecting skill was fun when your new and knew nothing bout the game once you know it better and you got a good build skill went your last priority untill you get to the point you need multiple build for pvp farming and all around pve  so yea even if you wanted to collect all the skill you needed for let's say 3-4 build it would take what maybe 1or 2 day of normal play time ?

 

GW1 is all about farming Prestige (armor and title)  and PvP mostly GvG  Factions (Lux or Kurz) with the other pvp type to fill in if you get bored with the other.

  wowclone

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11/10/11 2:33:24 AM#45
Originally posted by Kwintpod

That's like saying the majority of WoW player play to fill their talent tree, instead of tackling hard raids and get better gear.

 

The majority of WOW players play to fill their talent tree instead of tackling hard raids and get raid gear.  Yup. 

The majority of players do not raid, they create alts like I did, cause I'm in the majority.  :)  The majority of players in WOW like I did are also on PvE servers.

Wut?

  xBludx

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11/10/11 2:48:09 AM#46

Any game on the market could turn p2w. That's when you vote with your wallet and move on.

  0vergil0

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11/10/11 3:08:06 AM#47

com on i wasn't talking about the wow part  any1 can tell the majority don't raid ... wow is as become World of Casual Craft  the game so easy with so nothing to do too easy acces to anything   blizz did too much hand holding for wow  (and yea i can say wow is easy yes i did FL and Bot/BwD and anything you want prior there nerf on hard mode full clear etc...)

 

Now you can't compare WoW and GW they both have diff goal and gameplay. The fact is GW is open to even Casual they can do anything a HArdcore player would do  the difference is the time it will take to max a title or get a new armor .

 

 

  Kalfer

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Joined: 3/09/11
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11/10/11 3:21:56 AM#48
Originally posted by Pixilated

Go ahead and say want you will but if Areananet did'nt have NC Soft with them I

would not make this post. BUT NC is involved with GW2 and that spells bad news

for all that wanted this game to take off. Just look at NC's track record-Linage 1 & 2,

and thier latest Aion.  Within a year the number of server's will be 4-5 at best.

 

They are now calling them micro-transactions to enhance your game play,customize

you Avatar and such, but they are crossing that grey line in various ways.

Expience potions- ok  somewhat harmless to get a 50% buff in exp. but thats

still an advantage over someone not buying them.

 

What they are selling now is "TIME" --  Don't want to take the time to level do it in

less time if you give us some $$. These may not show up at first but watch.

 

Bad In Game Mechanic's on "Enhancing" -"Enchanting"-"Socketing" the list can go on,

BUT... put in a horrible "success" rate on being able to do any of these in game AND

sell a 100% success rate item in the cash shop.. !   =  P2W   !!!

Don't believe me ?  Check out Aion and NC Soft selling 100% success rates for $$$

$150 to do a top level set of Armor ?!!

 

This is the new trend of these games unfortunetely,buy your grind time , sure YOU don't have

to pay for anything in their cash shop. But you'll be mid-level putting in seroius hours of play

per week while Joe Blow pays the cash shop a little visit and he's already max-level  and

his gear is statted up ! Something that will take you weeks of grinding to for statting the gear not

to mention you need to get to max level to even grind effectively.

 

Areana-net has said this won't happen..  but they won't release the cash shop inventories,

plus that's all subject to change, but worst of all they may not have the say so in the end.

NC Soft will have say so,sure I want GW2 to blast off and be a great game, but I'm afraid

the short term and greed and top profits will win  and players will lose.

Just my 2sence werth- at least we'll have a few choice's in games this coming year of 2012 !

 

Guild Wars 1.

 

 

/Thread over

  MMOExposed

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Joined: 6/17/10
Posts: 5979

11/10/11 4:05:58 AM#49
Originally posted by Kalfer
Originally posted by Pixilated

Go ahead and say want you will but if Areananet did'nt have NC Soft with them I

would not make this post. BUT NC is involved with GW2 and that spells bad news

for all that wanted this game to take off. Just look at NC's track record-Linage 1 & 2,

and thier latest Aion.  Within a year the number of server's will be 4-5 at best.

 

They are now calling them micro-transactions to enhance your game play,customize

you Avatar and such, but they are crossing that grey line in various ways.

Expience potions- ok  somewhat harmless to get a 50% buff in exp. but thats

still an advantage over someone not buying them.

 

What they are selling now is "TIME" --  Don't want to take the time to level do it in

less time if you give us some $$. These may not show up at first but watch.

 

Bad In Game Mechanic's on "Enhancing" -"Enchanting"-"Socketing" the list can go on,

BUT... put in a horrible "success" rate on being able to do any of these in game AND

sell a 100% success rate item in the cash shop.. !   =  P2W   !!!

Don't believe me ?  Check out Aion and NC Soft selling 100% success rates for $$$

$150 to do a top level set of Armor ?!!

 

This is the new trend of these games unfortunetely,buy your grind time , sure YOU don't have

to pay for anything in their cash shop. But you'll be mid-level putting in seroius hours of play

per week while Joe Blow pays the cash shop a little visit and he's already max-level  and

his gear is statted up ! Something that will take you weeks of grinding to for statting the gear not

to mention you need to get to max level to even grind effectively.

 

Areana-net has said this won't happen..  but they won't release the cash shop inventories,

plus that's all subject to change, but worst of all they may not have the say so in the end.

NC Soft will have say so,sure I want GW2 to blast off and be a great game, but I'm afraid

the short term and greed and top profits will win  and players will lose.

Just my 2sence werth- at least we'll have a few choice's in games this coming year of 2012 !

 

Guild Wars 1.

 

 

/Thread over

I thought we were talking about MMO here.

 

Well in that case,

 

Dothack rpg from the PS2 also wasnt P2W, and also wasnt a MMO, but similar to a MMO, so it fits this discussion as well

  jpnz

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Joined: 6/29/06
Posts: 3542

11/10/11 4:09:56 AM#50
Originally posted by Kalfer

 

Guild Wars 1.

 

 

/Thread over

Been so long since I've played GW1, but doesn't GW1 have some sort of 'pay for PVP skills' or something?

Not saying it is 'P2W' as that definition is up to the individual, but to say GW1 doesn't have anything that'll give you an advantage is factually false.

Advantage in this case would be 'time'.

Gdemami -
Informing people about your thoughts and impressions is not a review, it's a blog.

  Zeus.CM

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Joined: 6/13/10
Posts: 1797

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11/10/11 4:14:19 AM#51
Originally posted by jpnz
Originally posted by Kalfer

Guild Wars 1.


/Thread over

Been so long since I've played GW1, but doesn't GW1 have some sort of 'pay for PVP skills' or something?

Not saying it is 'P2W' as that definition is up to the individual, but to say GW1 doesn't have anything that'll give you an advantage is factually false.

Advantage in this case would be 'time'.

Only for PvP only characters, so no. People usually don't go PvP before they unlocked their skills in PvE, so there's not many people who buy skills, so it was not a problem.

Anyone who believe gw2 will be p2w are ignorant. The game is not designed for that. It opposes the very foundations of the game, something like this would collapse it. Devs had said in MANY interviews that cash shop will be purely cosmetical.  WHY CAN'T YOU ACCEPT THAT?

  Vaultar

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Joined: 4/25/08
Posts: 342

11/10/11 4:19:38 AM#52

NC Soft are only publishers. No more no less.

 

ArenaNet are the developers and they decide these things.

 

But no. Not in a million years will the game go P2W. It goes completely against ArenaNets philosophy.

 

The items will stay purely cosmetic just like in GW1.

 

THE END.

 

 

 

Looking forward to EQL and EQN.

  Xthos

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Joined: 4/18/10
Posts: 2640

11/10/11 4:20:49 AM#53

I heard when you fight other people, a pop-up was going to pop-up, and the person willing to pay the most money can instantly kill the other person!

  jpnz

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Joined: 6/29/06
Posts: 3542

11/10/11 4:21:03 AM#54
Originally posted by thedarkess
Originally posted by jpnz
Originally posted by Kalfer

Guild Wars 1.


/Thread over

Been so long since I've played GW1, but doesn't GW1 have some sort of 'pay for PVP skills' or something?

Not saying it is 'P2W' as that definition is up to the individual, but to say GW1 doesn't have anything that'll give you an advantage is factually false.

Advantage in this case would be 'time'.

Only for PvP only characters, so no. People usually don't go PvP before they unlocked their skills in PvE, so there's not many people who buy skills, so it was not a problem.

Anyone who believe gw2 will be p2w are ignorant. The game is not designed for that. It opposes the very foundations of the game, something like this would collapse it. Devs had said in MANY interviews that cash shop will be purely cosmetical.  WHY CAN'T YOU ACCEPT THAT?

Just in case this was directed at me. :)

From my point of view, it isn't 'P2W'.

However I can see why some might take the position that ANY advantage (time/gear/ whatever) that can be bought is a P2W.

Gdemami -
Informing people about your thoughts and impressions is not a review, it's a blog.

  User Deleted
11/10/11 4:24:15 AM#55
Originally posted by Aadien

Like i said GW2 will be fun for about a month cause of easy mode, then most will go to other mmos. But ya i can see GW2 going P2W but they will make it seem not like that at all.

Who says its easy?  Your notion thjat it is easy because it doesnt have the holy trinity so combat will be all zerg, or that theres no conventional quests so people will get bored is an asanine statement to make.  I assure you this game will not and can not fail due to all the innovation it brings.

  Ezhae

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11/10/11 4:26:04 AM#56
Originally posted by jpnz
Originally posted by thedarkess
Originally posted by jpnz
Originally posted by Kalfer

Guild Wars 1.


/Thread over

Been so long since I've played GW1, but doesn't GW1 have some sort of 'pay for PVP skills' or something?

Not saying it is 'P2W' as that definition is up to the individual, but to say GW1 doesn't have anything that'll give you an advantage is factually false.

Advantage in this case would be 'time'.

Only for PvP only characters, so no. People usually don't go PvP before they unlocked their skills in PvE, so there's not many people who buy skills, so it was not a problem.

Anyone who believe gw2 will be p2w are ignorant. The game is not designed for that. It opposes the very foundations of the game, something like this would collapse it. Devs had said in MANY interviews that cash shop will be purely cosmetical.  WHY CAN'T YOU ACCEPT THAT?

Just in case this was directed at me. :)

From my point of view, it isn't 'P2W'.

However I can see why some might take the position that ANY advantage (time/gear/ whatever) that can be bought is a P2W.

Thing is, in GW2 for the competetive PvP You have pre-made gear and max level characters so there is nothing to unlock there. That's why it's called competetive. Everyone enters with equal chances (class balance and group comp aside) . 

People afraid of P2W simply do not udnerstand how GW works. Gear is not end-of-all things, it's not WoW where if you fall a tier behind You are at disadvantage. 

  xKingdomx

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11/10/11 4:36:20 AM#57

Another person who did not play GW1

 

 

Any game has the potential to be P2W, but GW2 has shown through its predecessor that it probably won't be so.

How much WoW could a WoWhater hate, if a WoWhater could hate WoW?
As much WoW as a WoWhater would, if a WoWhater could hate WoW.

  Saunakiller

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11/10/11 4:45:18 AM#58
Originally posted by czekoskwigel
Originally posted by Kaerigan
Originally posted by VirusDancer
Originally posted by Kaerigan
Originally posted by Zylaxx

Can we get a ban on this guy?  Wish there was a report post feature.

There is a report post feature and someone has already reported his post.

I find this attitude odd.  For some players, it is a valid concern.  The way it was worded, while definitely more a case of the OP having a foregone conclusion rather than sharing a concern - people express themselves differently.

If a game is going to have an item shop - what is going to be sold in that shop is going to be a concern for many.  There have been far too many cases of companies saying one thing and doing something else - or - changing as time went along.

With CoX, I was fine with the boosters they sold on their web store - until they sold the MA booster.  Prior to that, they had just been costume pieces, costume change emotes, and emotes.  With the MA booster, they included Ninja Run.  Ninja Run was a definite advantage.

Different people, as I stated previously, have different definitions of what P2W means, etc.

Just because somebody does not share your views on it, does not mean they should be banned or reported.  If you don't like something that somebody is saying - you're more than free to disagree with them, sharing your contrasting views on the topic - or you can just block them.

Any game that includes an item shop...is a game that I will wonder about.  Not all item shops are the same, not all advantages mean the same thing in all games . . . so I do not lump them all in together, but at the same time - one never knows when things may change from one to another.

Just to be clear here, while I don't agree with OP, I certainly don't think that his post deserved to be reported.

Saying bad things about GW2 is just about the fastest way to get a post reported around here.

 

Nope. That's saying a good thing about Mortal Online... :P
  Quirhid

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11/10/11 4:46:41 AM#59
Originally posted by VirusDancer
Originally posted by Kaerigan
Originally posted by Zylaxx

Can we get a ban on this guy?  Wish there was a report post feature.

There is a report post feature and someone has already reported his post.

I find this attitude odd.  For some players, it is a valid concern.  The way it was worded, while definitely more a case of the OP having a foregone conclusion rather than sharing a concern - people express themselves differently.

If a game is going to have an item shop - what is going to be sold in that shop is going to be a concern for many.  There have been far too many cases of companies saying one thing and doing something else - or - changing as time went along.

With CoX, I was fine with the boosters they sold on their web store - until they sold the MA booster.  Prior to that, they had just been costume pieces, costume change emotes, and emotes.  With the MA booster, they included Ninja Run.  Ninja Run was a definite advantage.

Different people, as I stated previously, have different definitions of what P2W means, etc.

Just because somebody does not share your views on it, does not mean they should be banned or reported.  If you don't like something that somebody is saying - you're more than free to disagree with them, sharing your contrasting views on the topic - or you can just block them.

Any game that includes an item shop...is a game that I will wonder about.  Not all item shops are the same, not all advantages mean the same thing in all games . . . so I do not lump them all in together, but at the same time - one never knows when things may change from one to another.

This is thread is suspicious because OP has only two posts, and a similar thread gathered a lot of posts (and trolling) in the GW2 section here. Both threads damage Arenanet's image as trolls continue to feed false information on both games.

They throw mud at these games and I don't know why. Maybe it is fun to see the nerdrage and postcount of your thread go up. Anyway... If you want to read and re-read some of the points made about this subject here is a link for the thread that was closed earlier. It is why I think this thread should be closed aswell.

EDIT: Actually, now that I re-read some of the thread, I realised you were one of the posters who insisted on viewing the matter in a black & white manner rather than with the shades of gray. You are entitled to your opinion ofcourse, but I don't think such way of thinking is not sensible at all. Somehow I got the impression that, for some reason, you wanted to see it as black & white matter.

I skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been -Wayne Gretzky

  Fozzik

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11/10/11 4:51:44 AM#60

ArenaNet has stated clearly that they will take the community's opinions into account when deciding what goes in the shop. It's very unlikely they would make it P2W because that would be the complete opposite of what the community is comfortable with. Building and maintaining a happy community is the number one goal of the company (they say they are a community-building company first...games are just a good way to build communities).


I did an actual poll of the community...and 82% of responders said they would NOT want skills in the shop. So, although those were sold under very specific circumstances in GW1, I seriously doubt they would sell skills in GW2. It would go completely against what they've said, and cause a huge shitstorm in the community.

http://www.silkyvenom.com/forums/gallery/files/1/8/Microtransactionstats_original.jpg


Based on my poll, it's pretty clear what players will and won't be comfortable with in a cash shop, and I think ArenaNet will tread carefully since players being happy and continuing to buy expansions is what will keep them in business. What would be the motivation of making the shop P2W? It might create some short-term profits, but it would destroy ArenaNet's reputation and long-term community. Not likely...I would actually say it's probably LESS likely ArenaNet would do that than some other companies (subscription MMOs) going P2W with their cash shops.

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