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  paulrgod

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11/03/11 5:49:37 AM#21
Originally posted by Grimmx
Originally posted by Archid
Originally posted by Grimmx
Originally posted by Archid

Edit: Bah i need to read post more carefully. There's not many open world pvp games out there. Darkfall, Mortal Online... good old Ultima Online (!!!). So cant really help you there. Aion is one too when you get to Abyss and or do Rifts... Hmm, Realms online is f2p daoc clone. Havent played it too far yet to see the pvp... But yeah.

Well there's bunch of so called MOBA games. Like Bloodline Champions mentioned above, they are fast to get in and have mostly pvp in them. Some have money grinding and leveling (creep killing and jungling) but mostly its team pvp.

I have a question.

3 realm pvp in realms online sounds fun, so i had a look. But i cant find out if the shop will change pvp or not?

I wont play a pvp game where peolpe can use real life money to get ahead...its lame.

Do you know how the shop in Realms online work?

Hmm, cant remember. I dont really bother to check the cash shops, because i dont give a rats ass if someone wants to be jackass and spend realy money on them. For me that doesn't spoil the game. Allods has much better shop nowdays but realms online im not so sure. As i said havent played too far.

Its more that i dont like getting forced into paying to be able to compete. It has a tendancy to show its ugly head after you have lvled up, and then its too late.

Allods > Think i read somewhere that stuff in your inventory got ruined randomly in PvP and needed repairs. To repair it you needed repair kits or something that you had tp buy for real money. See what im getting at?....im noever going to play a game that uses tactics like this to force money out of people.

I would much rather pay a monthly fee actually.

Allods has changed a hell of a lot actually.

If you are prepared then theres no need to actually spend a penny on these items.  There's free items in the cash shop that protect your equipment from the curse effect, if you stock up on those then theres no chance of getting a cursed item.. you can literally buy thousands of them for nothing. 

The PVP items that i do have issue with in Allods are the Runes... people can literally spend unlimited cash on these and become invincible.

Other than that its usual guff like mounts, costumes etc.

It's a really nice game, great graphics / animation and music.

If you dont mind waiting a while - Lineage 2 is becoming totaly F2P soon.  Which might be worth a look at.  I havn't played it for a long time but had some good times when i did.

  ZombieKen

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11/03/11 5:50:01 AM#22

OP, have you considered L2 or Aion?  I hear Aion grind is nothing like ir was originally.

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  skyexile

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11/03/11 6:39:04 AM#23


Originally posted by ActionMMORPG
OP, have you considered L2 or Aion?  I hear Aion grind is nothing like ir was originally.

is there still pvp in AION? i herd everybody on most servers was playing 1 faction and farming the bots for renown gear...

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  snoocky

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11/03/11 6:49:07 AM#24

Lineage 2?

  User Deleted
11/03/11 12:20:54 PM#25
Originally posted by ActionMMORPG

OP, have you considered L2 or Aion?  I hear Aion grind is nothing like ir was originally.

Aion grind never was bad, especially when compared to L2. Aion grind (item grind!)  starts at max level, L2 grind earlier. The biggest problem with Aion PVP these days are simple:

- you need to be geared really well (if you are not an OP sorc or gank with lots of ppl)

- NcSoft removed nearly all zones from PVP. Lowbie zones got pvp buffs that make PVP rather impossible, execpt on some regular events. High level zones are restricted, if you go to first zone you get banned right away. The main pvp zone is full of mobs that hit really hard and cast skills like paralyse or silence that decide the pvp on their own if they land on you.

- on most servers there's on faction that rules the server while the other faction is chanceless with people quitting right and left, ruining the balance even more.

- on some servers there's an incentive program to make more ppl play a specific side, but since there are not many new players in Aion all this incentive program does is ruining balance on another layer.

Basically most players in Aion these days prefer to get fancy dresses and dream of building houses and stuff. Next release will remove PVP from the higher level zone and replace it with "competetive pve" - so if you wanna PVP, don't touch Aion. NcSoft  clearly directs the game to be the next Sims/Hello Kitty Online and you won't be able to properly gear up until the Anti PVP-Update is out.

As for Lineage 2, yes that's one of the greatest PVP games ever - imho. BUT on retail there are hardly any people PVPing themselves anymore though. They all use illegal tools that automate most of the PVP for them by allowing them to develope scripted tactics. Watch a few videos, aside of a few top players that have accounts worth $10.000 and more you won't find many people that target/pvp manually.

  Grimmx

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OP  11/04/11 12:29:25 AM#26

Thanks for the detailed answer on Aion/L2 Mmoswan!

Scripted pvp?...thats just sad. I remember trying out L2 a long time ago, but i cant remember why i quit.

Maybe im getting old, because i feel the just dont make the games like they did before. Seems watered down for some reason.

My favorite games ever:

Asherons Call 1 : Darktide FFA server.

DAoC : Andred/Mordred FFA Pvp Server

Shadowbane. (i was on several servers)

 

Im waiting for SWTOR > GW2 > Secret World, but for some reason i dont have high hopes for any of them.

SWTOR = Wow pvp....but i hope it gets better. Only 4 classes each side will make pvp stale.

GW2 = World pvp looks interesting in a DAoC oldstyle way...but im afraid it will end up getting unpersonal. Paladin 12344 from world 3 vs Paladin 08643 from world 5. In all my favorite games the world was was filled with people you got to know, both friends and enemies. I guess we have to see how the pvp works out here.

Secret World = This game actually looks like DAoC..and DAOC is still running. 3 Faction pvp is the way to go. /slightly hopeful here.

  Grimmx

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OP  11/04/11 12:38:01 AM#27

Oh..i ended up buying the King's Bounty series. So ive started on the first one now, "The Legend"...

I DO feel that i have the energy again to involve myself in a MMO actually. Both with a community, and doing quests.

Must be because i havent played MMORPG in a while now, and gotten a well deserved rest from grinding/questing.

So maybe SWTOR will do it for me after all...time will tell. ;)

  Draemos

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11/06/11 7:21:23 AM#28

The best PvP combat system is still, and has always been, WoW.  People pretend like its terrible, but it really does win hands down in a side by side comparison.  The only real challenger is Darkfall, and thats more because of the open-ended nature and focus of the game than the mechanics(which are clunky at best).

  Nimhlan1

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11/07/11 5:41:44 PM#29
Originally posted by Draemos

The best PvP combat system is still, and has always been, WoW.  People pretend like its terrible, but it really does win hands down in a side by side comparison.  The only real challenger is Darkfall, and thats more because of the open-ended nature and focus of the game than the mechanics(which are clunky at best).

lol... No.

DAOC is the best pvp system. WoW is instanced battlegrounds which Rift does better and even then it doesn't compare to persistant 3 realm pvp with keeps, sieges, and the like.

  Draemos

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11/08/11 1:08:00 PM#30
Originally posted by Nimhlan1
Originally posted by Draemos

The best PvP combat system is still, and has always been, WoW.  People pretend like its terrible, but it really does win hands down in a side by side comparison.  The only real challenger is Darkfall, and thats more because of the open-ended nature and focus of the game than the mechanics(which are clunky at best).

lol... No.

DAOC is the best pvp system. WoW is instanced battlegrounds which Rift does better and even then it doesn't compare to persistant 3 realm pvp with keeps, sieges, and the like.

 

Um no, but you keep on hatin'
  Nimhlan1

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11/08/11 3:44:24 PM#31
Originally posted by Draemos
Originally posted by Nimhlan1
Originally posted by Draemos

The best PvP combat system is still, and has always been, WoW.  People pretend like its terrible, but it really does win hands down in a side by side comparison.  The only real challenger is Darkfall, and thats more because of the open-ended nature and focus of the game than the mechanics(which are clunky at best).

lol... No.

DAOC is the best pvp system. WoW is instanced battlegrounds which Rift does better and even then it doesn't compare to persistant 3 realm pvp with keeps, sieges, and the like.

 

Um no, but you keep on hatin'

There is no support for your weak argument.

WoW's pvp system is battlegrounds with capture the flag, capture and hold. That sh!t has been done a thousand times in other games.

DAOC has a persistant set of zones dedicated to pvp conflict with large keeps to capture, claimable by guilds. 3 factions all at war with each other. No instanced bullsh!t.

  McDougles1

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11/08/11 4:00:55 PM#32

You've NEVER played a true PvP experience unless you've gone 1v1 in an aerial dogfight, chasing your opponent down and blasting them to smithereens, just to have the chase turned on to you. 

ACE Online is good for that kind of unique MMO PvP experience, plus they just got a patch this last thursday. Here are the patch notes: http://forum.subagames.com/showthread.php?t=35310

  cjtign

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11/09/11 8:28:54 PM#33

Have to admit i've played a lot of the games out there and I'd have to say some of the best are Perfect World (although HUGE reliance on cash shop), Knight Online (kinda old though).

And the newest one i'd say is Pandora Saga. Free to play, minimal reliance on cash shop. You can level to top level in 3 days, 27 classes, lots of skills, open pvp areas w/ bosses like colony zone in KO, Castle siege, and 2x a day wars, 3 nations, guild wars, honor system like Aion where you can become Archlord (which is still open for grabs!)

That being said I just started Pandora Saga really into it. Max lvl is 55, can get 30 in first day. Easy grind, focus is on end game pvp.

My in game name is Invincible, I'm on Barbatos Server in Empire Nation, my guild is very hardcore about helping new characters. They found me at lvl 10 and got me up max level and doing pvp runs w/ them and wars. Great game especially when someone helps u level.

Guild Name: SOS Brigade

Feel free to email me too if you are interested in playing, again great community, helpful to new players, all pvp, quick grind.
Email: cjtign@gmail.com

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  Murashu

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11/09/11 8:36:58 PM#34
Originally posted by Nimhlan1

There is no support for your weak argument.

WoW's pvp system is battlegrounds with capture the flag, capture and hold. That sh!t has been done a thousand times in other games.

DAOC has a persistant set of zones dedicated to pvp conflict with large keeps to capture, claimable by guilds. 3 factions all at war with each other. No instanced bullsh!t.

Yeah I keep hoping to see someone come out with an updated version of DAOC, instead we get instanced arena matches or battlegrounds that reward you win or lose.

 

Until someone can replicate DAOCs RvR system in a modernized MMO I'll be keep playing EVE for my PvP and Rift for my PvE.

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  AzurePrower

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11/09/11 8:53:06 PM#35

I'd recommend Global Agenda. It's a shooter. But if you want don't want some thing that attention demanding aspect which you find in PVP. There's a casual PVE aspect to the game.

Made a video of it recently showing the open parts of Global Agenda where you can go at your own pace.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpbTZSSvD9Y


It's what's keeping me occupied until SWTOR.

  injenu

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11/10/11 5:00:06 PM#36

Perpetuum, similar to Eve except with Robots.  Once you get to the PVP islands it's all about pvp, politics, and sh*t talking.

  Redemp

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11/10/11 5:03:28 PM#37

 Ignore the dated graphics and shameful UI.

Go play the best pvp mmo ever made...  DAOC.

Its still a blast, its still the best, you adapt to the age quickly.

  CoolWaters

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11/10/11 5:39:51 PM#38
Originally posted by Draemos

The best PvP combat system is still, and has always been, WoW.  People pretend like its terrible, but it really does win hands down in a side by side comparison.  The only real challenger is Darkfall, and thats more because of the open-ended nature and focus of the game than the mechanics(which are clunky at best).

This has to be the saddest, and at the same time most humorous, post I've ever read on this website.

I'm sorry you've never experienced good player conflict to compare WoW's excuse for PvP.  Maybe someday you'll have that opportunity.

 

 

  User Deleted
11/11/11 2:54:53 PM#39

A good skill based PvP game is pirates of the burning sea.   I've played Dark age of camelot and i've played eve while both offer skill based pvp I just wanted something a little different.  So I went back and tried out Pirates of the burning sea and the pvp is by far the strong point of the game it also has really good sea combat graphics.   Get into a fleeting society and get leveled up to 50 in no time then switch to a pvp oriented society and enjoy pvp with actual risk vs reward.

  Durray

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11/12/11 8:18:34 PM#40

 

I am going to give a little bit of a positive view for Aion, after a few people have been detrimental about it.

The game has changed and it is debatable wether this is good or bad.

  • They did add proctection to the early leveling areas to stop people ganking lowbies, though rifts are still up allowing spy quests to be completed. And every month or so they remove the protection allowing PvP rifting
  • The grind has been dramatically reduced and even gear griding is a lot easier
  • They added 2 new PvP arenas at lvl 46+
  • World PvP it is frankly the best out there atm unless you are a hardcore darkfall fan
  • Has extensive PvE: World bosses, instances, 10x the quests you need to do to level, items and crafting
  • Has Extensive PvP: Arena's, Dredgion (PvPvE instances that opens 3x a day), World faction PvP, Sieges, the abyss and flying pvp
  • 3.0 patch is just around the corner offering even more updates, though this is mainly PvE instances and sandbox elements like housing. But should still be enjoyable
  • Has (other then FFIV characer modles) some of the best graphics out there
Its does have its faults
  • Servers are not balanced, normally one faction dominates the other overall. This does not stop sieges and pvp taking place though. Though my server is Elyos dominated I fought 2 sieges today both of which were trying thanks to the balaur showing up!
  • Some gear grind is there (been reduced!) and gear does make a noticable difference. Though a skilled player will always beat an unskilled
If you are looking for world PvP and a well rounded game. Then you are will be pressed to do better then Aion.
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