I for one don't like Origin I think its full of spyware and horrible stuff and EA have goofed me around enough in the past that Im very weary.  The review on this site of BF3 is the most realistic one I have seen yet (as an example).  However to play your head start do you have to intsall this, no one is going to get their discs early pre-launch really.

I dont want or need another platform to purchase games from especially one that comes from one single publisher especially one that I dont trust.

EDIT

NVM Me apparently Swtor has a seperate loader.

Don't get the digital version then. *shrugs*

I wasn't aware you were forced to install Origin.

Don't like it, don't play it.

Not seeing the issue the OP is having.

The issue is if you have pre-ordered and you want to play the head start you HAVE TO INSTALL ORIGIN or wait for launch day to get your discs. Unless I have missed the mark and you get a seperate downloader.

Originally posted by Wicoa

The issue is if you have pre-ordered and you want to play the head start you HAVE TO INSTALL ORIGIN or wait for launch day to get your discs. Unless I have missed the mark and you get a seperate downloader.

Not sure about that. If it's through Origin, and you dislike it so much, you can choose not to play the headstart and just get the boxed version.

That's what I am doing too. (I think).

 

Once more a deep moral crisis is brought about by the scheming genius of corporate America, still, at least after the Zombie Apocalypse we can go back to a barter economy.

 

 

dude dont say that i had a really freeky  dream about  the  Zombie Apocalypse last night.

Originally posted by Wicoa

The issue is if you have pre-ordered and you want to play the head start you HAVE TO INSTALL ORIGIN or wait for launch day to get your discs. Unless I have missed the mark and you get a seperate downloader.

Then wait for the official release date and get the boxed version?

It seems really dumb to not use something that is already there from EA/BW point of view. Why make something when you already have a platform? That doesn't make any commercial sense.

From what i seen all EA accounts go in to origin acount now. they are one acount now so no matter were you get it from you will have to deal with origin  any how.

Originally posted by zevni78

The point being I think that EA shouldn’t have spawned Origin-al Sin in the first place, true, it makes economic sense for them to do so, but it’s an annoyance to everyone else.

This is not putting the consumer 1^st, this is not supply and demand, this is just milking us, it’s so transparent that people object, even though it won’t make any difference. I don’t see anything other than a mass boycott changing EA's evil plans, and not enough consumers care for that to happen. Better the inconvenience of having yet another bloody thing running in the background, than the inconvenience of not playing those EA products you can’t live without.

Ehh... then don't buy it?

How is making a platform for customers to buy their products 'milking us'?

Are all platform makers like STEAM or ITUNES milking us now?

That doesn't make any logical sense.

they said before the sent out beta weekend invites that playing the game will require origin. your login on the stwor site is actually  a login to irigin it's one and the same. pre orders WILL need to have their origin account set up...hence the password reset emails thye have sent out. get your facts straight

You people really never visit the official forums eh...

{mod edit} because the devs already said you dont need origin to play the digital, retail, beta, or any version of swtor.

Originally posted by DeserttFoxx

You people really never visit the official forums eh...

 

{mod edit} because the de vs already said you dont need origin to play the digital, retail, beta, or any version of swtor.

this.

Origin is not the end of the world..

Originally posted by jpnz

How is making a platform for customers to buy their products 'milking us'?

Are all platform makers like STEAM or ITUNES milking us now?

That doesn't make any logical sense.

Originally posted by zevni78

Originally posted by jpnz

How is making a platform for customers to buy their products 'milking us'?

Are all platform makers like STEAM or ITUNES milking us now?

That doesn't make any logical sense.

 

I already said, I love steam, I have a lot of games via it, and find that convenient, and it would be even more so if EA's games where allowed to run on it. The point is, both the deals you get and the fact that it's a lot of games through a single system is efficient. However, if every major publisher decided to pull their products off a common and popular system, so they could make a little bit extra by having their own, we'd all end up with dozens of steam-style systems forced on us, with often no more than 1 or 2 games on each one, and with all the ram and security issues that would cause.

 

That is a logical extrapolation.

 

No one asked for origin, EA didn't want Steam to get it's cut, and so we have an involuntary loyalty system that penalizes through its inconvenience, if this was about anti-piracy or curbing second hand games (another annoying issue) Steam would have been enough for that. This is about getting more money from us, ask anyone using Origin if they’d rather just have it all on Steam, which they would most likely have already anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

And the problem is.....??

Newsflash, STEAM is owned by VALVE. Which is NOT EA.

Origin is a way for a customer to buy directly from EA rather than a 3rd party, Gamestop/STEAM/WAL-MART etc.

No one is forcing anyone to use it, but if you do, you get a few perks which includes early access.

This is like as if people are getting mad if NIKE decided to open their own store rather than rely on a generic Sporting Goods store.

Originally posted by zevni78

Originally posted by jpnz

How is making a platform for customers to buy their products 'milking us'?

Are all platform makers like STEAM or ITUNES milking us now?

That doesn't make any logical sense.

 

I already said, I love steam, I have a lot of games via it, and find that convenient, and it would be even more so if EA's games where allowed to run on it. The point is, both the deals you get and the fact that it's a lot of games through a single system is efficient. However, if every major publisher decided to pull their products off a common and popular system, so they could make a little bit extra by having their own, we'd all end up with dozens of steam-style systems forced on us, with often no more than 1 or 2 games on each one, and with all the ram and security issues that would cause.

 

That is a logical extrapolation.

 

No one asked for origin, EA didn't want Steam to get it's cut, and so we have an involuntary loyalty system that penalizes through its inconvenience, if this was about anti-piracy or curbing second hand games (another annoying issue) Steam would have been enough for that. This is about getting more money from us, ask anyone using Origin if they’d rather just have it all on Steam, which they would most likely have already anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

I dont get it, why is EA seen as the fucking devil for wanting to make more money off THEIR IP?

EA is a bigger company with much more resources then steam, why the fuck do they need to keep any of their product on steam? They only reason steam exists is because no other company felt it was nesssary to make a program like steam on pc, now they do, lets pull all the major devolopers away from steam and see which will survive the fall out.

I highly doubt Steam(valve) would be able to survive with just their games and in the grand scheme of things, origin might be buggy as fuck now, but i highly doubt this time next year it will have any trouble snuffing out steam, if that was their goal.

Their goal is to simply say, hey, you like this ea game, check out all of these ea games. And origin doesnt only sell pc games, it sells and ships xbox, and ps3 games, it uses the cloud system, the program itself is still in beta, it says that clearly, but whatever you think about it, EA is entitled to make their own program, its not greed its business.

I dont know why people think EA should pay steam to host their game when they can do it themselves.