Originally posted by godzilr1

The fact that he didnt pay attention to the release date aside....

Title says Steam Hacked....what's this all about?

The steam forums suffered from a minor injection attack, which has since been corrected. The steam forum login info is separate from steam account info (provided people didn't re-use the same username/password), so even if the purpotrators got any info (which there's no evidence they did), it shouldn't affect actual Steam accounts.

Meh. Steam. Hate it. Really hope this isn't one of those things where I have to have an online connection to play a single player game. That makes zero sense. I miss the days where a mandatory constant online connection wasn't required and you could download patches at your leisure when you did have a connection. I thought I was buying the game. Not renting. Its like the Big Brother of the gaming industry. The game should work right out of the box when downloaded onto the computer with no other requirements. Meh. I'll wait till the game arrives to see the truth of it and I'll save any complaining for if it turns out to be a pain in the rear.

Originally posted by warmaster670

Originally posted by Ceridith

Originally posted by warmaster670

Originally posted by Ceridith

Originally posted by forest-nl

Originally posted by cyberchip

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steam is one of the worst drms out there, forcing you to use it on hard copies is way worse than some lax 5 install limit.

Install steam, install game, activate game, set steam to offline mode. There, you never have to login to steam again to play that game.

Again, I point you to Ubisoft's DRM that forces their hard copy games to authenticate online all the time, not only every time you want to play, but while you play as well. Steam will not boot you out of a game if your connection drops in the middle of playing.

And at least with steam you get the piece of mind that if you lose the game discs you can always re-download the game via Steam.

you understand what one of means right? doesnt matter if theres something worse, steam is up there, what you list is one of the few thing worse than being forced to use steam, there is absolutely no good reason to force you to use steam.

You're not "forced."  Most people want to log on through steam each time so that they are connected to their gaming friends.  That's one of steam's primary functions.  Thus, it is the default setting.  If you do not wish to connect through steam, you don't have to.  

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by forest-nl

I understand perfectly what release date is lol.

Then what's the issue? The game hasn't been officially released, shops are selling the game when they've been asked to release it on the 11th and you are complaining that you should be able to play a game that is supposed to be released on the 11th?

The issue would be, PC Gamers have to wait and console gamers can play right now. I don't know why they don't add a feature to lock the game on consoles as well because it is pretty unfair that they can ignore the rules while PC gamers wait. 

So, the OP is upset that he can't play a game before the release date and is railing against steam?

Perhaps board games are more in line for for the OP, since he obviously can't grasp basic concepts like not being able to play before a release date. My 4 year old niece loves Candyland, perhaps you should give it a try.

Just because some people are breaking the rules does not give you the right to do so too. Grow up and accept the fact that you are going to have to wait until the 11th to play like everyone else.

Originally posted by Jimmy562

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by forest-nl

I understand perfectly what release date is lol.

Then what's the issue? The game hasn't been officially released, shops are selling the game when they've been asked to release it on the 11th and you are complaining that you should be able to play a game that is supposed to be released on the 11th?

The issue would be, PC Gamers have to wait and console gamers can play right now. I don't know why they don't add a feature to lock the game on consoles as well because it is pretty unfair that they can ignore the rules while PC gamers wait. 

I think you're the only one on this thread that has understood what the OP is talking about.

I guess he bought the PC version and since the PC version uses Steam as DRM/Registration he can't play the game until the 10th (Steam changed the released date to the 10th for those that don't know).

Originally posted by Jimmy562

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by forest-nl

I understand perfectly what release date is lol.

Then what's the issue? The game hasn't been officially released, shops are selling the game when they've been asked to release it on the 11th and you are complaining that you should be able to play a game that is supposed to be released on the 11th?

The issue would be, PC Gamers have to wait and console gamers can play right now. I don't know why they don't add a feature to lock the game on consoles as well because it is pretty unfair that they can ignore the rules while PC gamers wait. 

It is the retailers that have ignored the rules, that's the problem here and who is to blame for this. 

I have to agree it sucks that console gamers got access earlier then the PC gamers. That being said, it is Steams responsibility to maintain the contracts they have. Fair or not. Laws usurp fairness when money is involved. 

Unless you can do it and not get caught LOL

Originally posted by Laughing-man

Originally posted by forest-nl

I eather listend to you guys or you listend to my absolute truth. Shops everwhere here in holland selling Skyrim to all 3 platforms only one that can't play right now is PC becouse of steam.

And if you have read my reply's i know about offline mode and its not about if i can play offline its about steam controlling when where and how i can play that bothers me, understand me now or not i wonder lol?

If shops are actualy selling the game to be played on Xbox and Ps3 RIGHT NOW they are in violation of international law.

So I'm going to guess you don't know what you are talking about.

HOW is steam controlling when and where and how you play your game?

You click a shortcut it launches game, done, no added confusion, SURE you had to install it through steam, but thats about it.

You are chicken littleing this whole situation.

 

(Again, Skyrim CANNOT be sold, as in the actual disk handed to a customer, until 11/11/11, if someone violates that their company will be TOTALLY screwed, had a game company near me do an early release of Halo 3, guess what they dont' exsist any more because of the huge lawsuit that forced them to close down shop.)

 

So you'll forgive me if I think your story of retailers risking their business and their lively hood is met with a bit of doubt.

They actually have already released the game in Holland: http://www.gamer.nl/nieuws/166644/verschillende-winkels-verkopen-skyrim-al (page in dutch.) 

http://kotaku.com/5857428/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-on-sale-now-in-the-netherlands

Either way, god forbid the OP has to wait until the actual international release date like THE REST OF THE WORLD! (including all the dutch in holland who pre-ordered from other locations.)  How dare steam!  It's all steam's fault.  

  What I dont get is why he thinks steam has to be fair. Its a business. 

Originally posted by ABRaquel

Originally posted by Jimmy562

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by forest-nl

I understand perfectly what release date is lol.

Then what's the issue? The game hasn't been officially released, shops are selling the game when they've been asked to release it on the 11th and you are complaining that you should be able to play a game that is supposed to be released on the 11th?

The issue would be, PC Gamers have to wait and console gamers can play right now. I don't know why they don't add a feature to lock the game on consoles as well because it is pretty unfair that they can ignore the rules while PC gamers wait. 

I think you're the only one on this thread that has understood what the OP is talking about.

I guess he bought the PC version and since the PC version uses Steam as DRM/Registration he can't play the game until the 10th (Steam changed the released date to the 10th for those that don't know).

Well no, the OP is upset because the drm is making it so that he can't join his console bretheren in playing a game that they shouldn't have in their hands. He is not sayign that console players should have the same restrictions.

He wants to play it now.

Originally posted by ABRaquel

Originally posted by Jimmy562

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by forest-nl

I understand perfectly what release date is lol.

Then what's the issue? The game hasn't been officially released, shops are selling the game when they've been asked to release it on the 11th and you are complaining that you should be able to play a game that is supposed to be released on the 11th?

The issue would be, PC Gamers have to wait and console gamers can play right now. I don't know why they don't add a feature to lock the game on consoles as well because it is pretty unfair that they can ignore the rules while PC gamers wait. 

I think you're the only one on this thread that has understood what the OP is talking about.

I guess he bought the PC version and since the PC version uses Steam as DRM/Registration he can't play the game until the 10th (Steam changed the released date to the 10th for those that don't know).

I think that we get what the OP is talking about, it is just that the release date isnt until the 11th (10th now?) for all platforms. I am not the morailty police so I am not judging anyone that plays before the release date. However, crying because you can't play before release just makes the OP sound like a spoiled child or a troll. Maybe a spoiled troll child??

Okay guys, the attacks and going in circles have continued, so I'm locking this thread.