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  snoocky

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11/06/11 1:01:20 PM#1

I got all the expansions of GW, only I couldn't really get in to the game...

The gameplay style just couldn't grab me...The reason is that you must play with either other people or with henchmen/heroes.

This is a real let down for me, I rather would play it alone, you know just one character...

 

Are there more people who are experince this?

  Homitu

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11/06/11 1:05:01 PM#2

I couldn't get into GW for the life of me neither.  That's not stopping me from looking forward to GW2 though :)

  StriderXed

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11/06/11 1:10:17 PM#3
Originally posted by Homitu

I couldn't get into GW for the life of me neither.  That's not stopping me from looking forward to GW2 though :)

Its very hard to find players who are interested in gw2 despite of them not liking gw1.

  Etherouge

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Joined: 11/22/09
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11/06/11 1:13:12 PM#4

A lot of us are in the same boat.

We're still going to buy and enjoy GW2!

  Homitu

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11/06/11 7:08:06 PM#5
Originally posted by BWDingo
Originally posted by Homitu

I couldn't get into GW for the life of me neither.  That's not stopping me from looking forward to GW2 though :)

Its very hard to find players who are interested in gw2 despite of them not liking gw1.

Really?  I haven't quite gotten that impression, especially around here.  For one, most players seem to realize that both games are going to be so different that whatever issues you may have had with GW1 cannot necessarily be extrapolated to GW2. (It goes the other way as well, of course: whatever you liked about GW1 won't necessarily be the same in GW2.)  For another, Anet has done such a good job at explaining their philosophies and features every step of the way throughout GW2's development.  Lastly, GW2 has been hyped to a ridiculous level here and elsewhere, independently of its predecessor.  

  gobla

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C'est la vie.

11/06/11 7:16:31 PM#6

GW2 fans:

Now even turning Guild Wars threads into "vs. GW2" threads!

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  Pensieve

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11/06/11 7:53:45 PM#7
Originally posted by BWDingo
Originally posted by Homitu

I couldn't get into GW for the life of me neither.  That's not stopping me from looking forward to GW2 though :)

Its very hard to find players who are interested in gw2 despite of them not liking gw1.

well i havent played gw at all, and honestly i dont even think that i will try that one.. but i Do wanna play gw2 badly..

  Biggus99

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11/06/11 8:01:13 PM#8

I tried playing Guild Wars, and thought it was terrible.  Just found it very boring, most likely due to the heavy instancing and outdated graphics.  I also don't care for the skill system they have.  

That being said, there won't be any correlation between people's opinions on Guild Wars and that of GW2.  They should be viewed as two entirely different games,  and two entirely different genres really.  

 

 

  DOGMA1138

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Joined: 8/25/11
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11/06/11 8:23:00 PM#9
Originally posted by BWDingo
Originally posted by Homitu

I couldn't get into GW for the life of me neither.  That's not stopping me from looking forward to GW2 though :)

Its very hard to find players who are interested in gw2 despite of them not liking gw1.

No its not, GW2 from what it looks like is NOTHING like GW1, all the mechanics have been changed, and the entire game system have also been changed. again from what atleast you can see in the vids, or interpert from the interviews...

GW1 was not an MMO, it was an "Offline" RPG with a lobby, every square foot of that game was instanced and if you did not go into it with other players you were on your own..

I loathed GW1, most of my friends hated it, and guess what we are all looking forwards for GW2 why? because it looks nothing like GW1...

Real persistant world that you can socialize in - not just hubs, Story, no more crappy instances every where, PVP is not about "Arenas" any more but is much more BG like. Heavy emphasis on story and leveling, especially the social aspects of it.

If this sounds to you like GW1 then you must have been playing WoW all along and the meds you've been taking didnt do the trick for ya...

 

  gobla

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Joined: 3/30/07
Posts: 1335

C'est la vie.

11/06/11 8:29:45 PM#10

Sigh....

Just because I feel sorry for the OP for having his threat hijacked by the GW2 brigade I'll be the first one to actually answer his question and make the first on-topic post in this thread:

 

I know exactly what you're talking about. While I've played GW for several years I've had a few periods in which I felt exactly the same. A great annoyance that I couldn't just get out there and do stuff but instead either had to get a party full of henchmen or find other players.

I've found a few things that help if you're still interested in giving GW a try.

Making an elonian character (GW: Nightfall) can help. Instead of random henchmen you'll get heroes which you can level up yourself as well as give some custom gear. This makes them a lot more personal and makes it feel more like soloing.

Joining a good guild also helps a lot as it really makes it a lot more effortless to find a few extra people. No need to spam LFG or anything else, just ask in guild chat or get your heroes and you can go.

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  zevni78

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11/06/11 8:33:55 PM#11

I've played the 3 campaigns and the expansion of GW1 and yes there are horrible parts, post-scouring of Ascalon and the shanty city of Factions, for eg. However many parts are very good, such as a lot of NIghtfall, and Eye of the North. Try using companions from those two, then using them in the earlier campaigns, and get used to gearing them, and make sure your server is busy enough that you get lots of missions to share.

 

The problem is that Arenanet don't redo the campaigns as much as p2p mmos such as WoW that depend on keeping people playing though the basic game. Arenanet focus on the next expansion, rather than correcting parts of the campaign that most players have moved on from into the pvp bulk of the game.

  JormagX

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Joined: 11/09/11
Posts: 7

11/09/11 7:51:39 PM#12
Originally posted by snoocky

I got all the expansions of GW, only I couldn't really get in to the game...

The gameplay style just couldn't grab me...The reason is that you must play with either other people or with henchmen/heroes.

This is a real let down for me, I rather would play it alone, you know just one character...

 

Are there more people who are experince this?

This wasn't really an issue when the game first came out. There were players EVERYWHERE. It was awesome. PUGs for the most part was fairly simple and no one was bent out on getting certain professions/builds aside from having a monk but the healer henchmen was also accepted at that time.

  Cik_Asalin

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Joined: 8/29/04
Posts: 3091

11/09/11 7:56:58 PM#13
Originally posted by snoocky

I got all the expansions of GW, only I couldn't really get in to the game...

The gameplay style just couldn't grab me...The reason is that you must play with either other people or with henchmen/heroes.

This is a real let down for me, I rather would play it alone, you know just one character...

 

Are there more people who are experince this?

I felt differently 6-years ago when it launched.  It was a fun and very entertaining experience then, but I wouldnt play it today with so many other options in gaming.

  stayontarget

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11/09/11 7:57:32 PM#14

I also didn't much care for GW so naturally i'm very pessimistic about GW2.

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  Plasmicredx

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Joined: 3/23/08
Posts: 635

11/09/11 9:06:20 PM#15

Actually one reason I liked Guild Wars 1 was because it was so challenging to play solo, I often attempted to solo everything as a result. Anything I could solo I would want to go back and play it with other players to show off how good I am at that mission and help people out or to just learn how other people play that mission. Have you tried looking up character builds or tried to make your own character builds that lets you solo a mission or zone?

There ARE builds that let you do that, you know. You just have to figure it out. Like farming gold on a 55 monk, for example in some zones is really fun.

But I do guess that there are some things that is impossible to solo, which is why you could still be disappointed with this advice.

Yeah, there's 1 or 2 missions you can't even do henchmen with in the original Guild Wars story missions, the last one for example in which you face Prince Rurik, I think I had to get help for that one.

Still, it wasn't that bad. Unless there's just no one to group with or people are being stubborn and not inviting you. Then I'd understand, because GW really sucks sometimes when you wanna find a group.

  tekniko64

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Joined: 11/09/11
Posts: 58

11/09/11 11:27:07 PM#16

I had the same problem when I started GW.  I mean I love partying with other people but to rely on it completely was a turn off.  Come to think of it I havent even looked at that game in probably five or more years now. 

  SuperXero89

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Posts: 2550

11/09/11 11:32:19 PM#17

I always liked Guild Wars because everything I did in the game made me feel as if I was actually important to the gameworld rather than on some grind-heavy treadmill watching one player after another do exactly what I did.  For that, it's greatest strength was that it didn't allow you to meet players out in the wilds.  Of course, there were simply so many impressive looking areas with a great sense of scale that really encouraged exploration.

  Alienovrlord

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Posts: 1528

11/19/11 1:47:43 AM#18

I'm trying to play GW1 to see the lore so I can better appreciate GW2 and playing the game just reminds me why I QUIT years ago.

The need for henchmen is ceratinly one element, it sucks needing this pack of NPCs following you around and NPC heroes are only marginally better.

Worse for me is the complete lack of explaination from ArenaNet regarding their game systems.   Hell, their developers have admitred in GW2 interviews where they mention the flaws of GW1 like how the  game just throws players into system with  massive number of skills and no explaination what they should do with them.  

 ArenaNet expects the community to provide all the support that THEY should be providing.    A game should NOT be about freaking HOMEWORK where you have to research how to make your character playable.  

 At the very least ArenaNet should supply official character builds or something so players can be sure they can at least be functional.  

The only reason I'm following ArenaNet is because they admit their mistakes and seem to have learned from it.   The problem is that this doesn't fix the  WRETCHED  flaws in GW1 that continually keep the game from being enjoyable. .   

I may still slough through the game just to see the story but it's about as much fun slamming my hand in a door over and over.  

  nickster29

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11/20/11 10:44:45 AM#19
Originally posted by Alienovrlord

I'm trying to play GW1 to see the lore so I can better appreciate GW2 and playing the game just reminds me why I QUIT years ago.

The need for henchmen is ceratinly one element, it sucks needing this pack of NPCs following you around and NPC heroes are only marginally better.

Worse for me is the complete lack of explaination from ArenaNet regarding their game systems.   Hell, their developers have admitred in GW2 interviews where they mention the flaws of GW1 like how the  game just throws players into system with  massive number of skills and no explaination what they should do with them.  

 ArenaNet expects the community to provide all the support that THEY should be providing.    A game should NOT be about freaking HOMEWORK where you have to research how to make your character playable.  

 At the very least ArenaNet should supply official character builds or something so players can be sure they can at least be functional.  

The only reason I'm following ArenaNet is because they admit their mistakes and seem to have learned from it.   The problem is that this doesn't fix the  WRETCHED  flaws in GW1 that continually keep the game from being enjoyable. .   

I may still slough through the game just to see the story but it's about as much fun slamming my hand in a door over and over.  

 

I actually have the opposite stance on the massive amounts of skills.  I personally think it is GREAT that Arena.net doesn't hand hold us and tell us exactly which skills to use.  It encourages people to actually think about how they want to play a character, or what kind of loadout best suits their needs for the mission.  This mentality also might stem from the fact I also enjoy playing a CCG called Magic the Gathering, and I absolutely love building decks and trying them out.

  Seinaru

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12/01/11 3:38:00 PM#20

I agree, OP, I bought the trilogy a few years ago, and I thought it had a really bad feel to it. When I ran out of mmos to play I gave GW another shot since I'm extremely interested in GW2. I bought EotN and played through that first (I already had a level 20 char). It drew me in because EotN was meant to be lore preparation for GW2. Now I'm working on my HoM for GW2. So while as a standalone game it didn't interest me at all, its connection to GW2 appeals to me.

I think that having heroes is one thing that makes GW more fun. If you don't already own Nightfall or EotN, you can do a 1 week trial of them or something like that. You can unlock a few heroes very early on in both expansions and you keep them past the trial period as long as you don't go back into the campaigns you don't own.

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