While I am looking forward to Skyrim I am actually thinking about waiting awhile before playing as Bethsoft (while one of my favorite companies) has a track record of releasing unstable games and taking a few weeks or months to iron it out. Maybe this time around I will get a console version first and play that while the PC version gets it's patches... not sure but one thing is for sure it would be hard for me to wait longer than a day after release. ;-p

I think this is going to make a good pre-birthday present to myself.

Give us back our Damn stats! Whats up with everyone lazy developer dumbing down the games to just health, magic, power?

Definitely getting this one.  But...do I get it to play on my gaming rig with hi rez and all eye candy turned on or do I play on my new top of the line, Samsung hi def led 3d 55 inch TV.  Hmmmmm.  Decisions, decisions.  I like that with PC you get mods and reskins and stuff.  But the idea of playing in simulated 3d has some appeal.  Maybe I'll buy for pc and rent for Xbox360 to get it out of my system.

You can always plug your PC into your shiney new TV. I did this and the picture was totally awesome, funny thing is that I prefer playing my pc games at my desk with my little 24" monitor, habit I guess :)

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Originally posted by ArcheAge

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Originally posted by cyress8
After watching the streams of the leaked xbox 360 version. I can not wait till it releases for PC. Mods are going to be awesome. Also, the game has a few of the great mods that we had for oblivion. Except the difficulty mods. (Cannot wait for those.)

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Isn't 11-11-11 release on all platforms?
 

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Simply said the Elderscrolls series is AMAZING.  I find it amazingly disappointing that no MMO can still reproduce even the older openness of elder scroll games.  It is rather pathetic.

Originally posted by Terranah

Definitely getting this one.  But...do I get it to play on my gaming rig with hi rez and all eye candy turned on or do I play on my new top of the line, Samsung hi def led 3d 55 inch TV.  Hmmmmm.  Decisions, decisions.  I like that with PC you get mods and reskins and stuff.  But the idea of playing in simulated 3d has some appeal.  Maybe I'll buy for pc and rent for Xbox360 to get it out of my system.

 

You buy the game on PC, get a decent controller and buy a longish HDMI cable and hook it up to your awesome TV.

Originally posted by Bakkoda24

Originally posted by greenneck37

Originally posted by Bakkoda24

Originally posted by Ozmodan

The only problem with some of these RPGs, some have that horrible always connected DRM which is rather stupid for a single player game.  Not sure about this title.

From what I have read about, Skyrim's will be using Valve's Steamworks DRM will only make you be online for the registration. After that, you can play offline as much as you want. It's considered one of the "least instrusive" forms of DRM. While I believe that any form of DRM is a horrible way of telling the customer "we don't trust you at all," I haven't seen many people complain about Valve's DRM. I'll keep digging and post some articles.

Skyrim is not using GFWL, which is assume many of you know already, but instead will be using Valve's version of DRM.

http://www.techspot.com/news/45130-ubisoft-tweaks-drivers-always-on-drm-skyrim-to-use-steam.html

I will add more articles as I find them.

 

Valve's steamwork is the "least intrusive?"  gimmie a break. I had to uninstall (briefly) my virus protection and my sucky computer connection took over 7 hours to download steam.  I HATE it because i had to install it to play a different game.  i think it is a pain to even see their logo on my computer.  just a memory-munching waste, as far as im concerned.  I love the fallout and elder scrolls series, and just wish bethesda wouldn't use such a user-unfriendly program to launch it.  No i dont want to buy a bunch of crap after a game comes out.  yes i want to go it alone, you can mmorp all u want, i just want to play a game without being distracted by steam whistles.

Did you read any of the articles I posted or did you just choose to ignore everything else?

Every version of DRM is intrusive. Valve states that Steamworks does not install any root-kits or anything like that, you can install on multiple machines thanks to Steam Cloud, no install limit, and you don't have to be online while you play.

I'll repeat that for you. You don't have to be online while you play, only for registration. As soon as your game is validated (and installed for me since I pre-ordered via Steam), you can exit Steam.

Also, I don't really understand the last part of your argument.

 

The last part of his argument is that steam uses memory and processer power to always run on your machine. I hate games that force me to install some sort of "allways on" piece. I have the knowledge to remove that crap and keep my machine streamlined. The response I always hear is that "they dont use much" yeah but get 10 to 20 of them running and they add up and cause conflicts. Please dont run crap on my PC except when I desire it to be run. It is a principle thing. 

I hate it that I buy a game and then have to get a crack from a hacker group to run it without steam or the dvd in the tray. But that is what I do because I want the freedom not restriction.

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Originally posted by Terranah
Definitely getting this one.  But...do I get it to play on my gaming rig with hi rez and all eye candy turned on or do I play on my new top of the line, Samsung hi def led 3d 55 inch TV.  Hmmmmm.  Decisions, decisions.  I like that with PC you get mods and reskins and stuff.  But the idea of playing in simulated 3d has some appeal.  Maybe I'll buy for pc and rent for Xbox360 to get it out of my system.
 

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You buy the game on PC, get a decent controller and buy a longish HDMI cable and hook it up to your awesome TV.
 

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Originally posted by greenneck37

Valve's steamwork is the "least intrusive?"  gimmie a break. I had to uninstall (briefly) my virus protection and my sucky computer connection took over 7 hours to download steam.  I HATE it because i had to install it to play a different game.

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I just drag the (backed up) folder over to a new computer whenever I reinstall windows. It takes it about 1 min to sort itself out (reinstall) and download a few updates. No problems with A/V programs/firewalls... I assume you know how to use your security software program?

I'm really sort of meh for this one especially after Oblivion and Fallout 3.  I don't have that feel anymore with their games that I used to.

I figure I'll get it eventually just for the mods, but I'm definitely not buying it at release and I'll probably just wait until the inevitable GOTY edition comes along.

I'll be extremely disappointed if they're done with expansions ala Shivering Isles.  With the way things are shifting in gaming, I'd certainly not be surprised.

Originally posted by jpgringo23

I hate it that I buy a game and then have to get a crack from a hacker group to run it without steam or the dvd in the tray. But that is what I do because I want the freedom not restriction.

 

You could've just shown some restraint and not purchased it.

Originally posted by Terranah

Definitely getting this one.  But...do I get it to play on my gaming rig with hi rez and all eye candy turned on or do I play on my new top of the line, Samsung hi def led 3d 55 inch TV.  Hmmmmm.  Decisions, decisions.  I like that with PC you get mods and reskins and stuff.  But the idea of playing in simulated 3d has some appeal.  Maybe I'll buy for pc and rent for Xbox360 to get it out of my system.

I think the simulated 3D will feel like a gimmick, but even if its great compared to a HD pc screen + proper graphics card, I wouldn't ever want to play without the option to use mods.

At least for me tesnexus (for MW and Oblivion) / fallout 3 nexus / fallout new vegas nexus have prolonged my fun with these games maybe a tenfold.

Ability to use mods allows you to improve your UI, use high res texture packs, improve game mechanics, increase performance, replace the bodies with better looking ones, add content / items and totally new features, etc. etc.

The only thing is that you have to filter out and don't touch are all the crappy mods that are also being made by a gazillion of people but that is no biggie.

The start of this post mentioned that the game is set 200yrs in the future from Oblivion.... yet the characters clothes, buildings and furniture still looks almost the same..... 

Not much progress for 200yrs in the future????

Originally posted by kingtofu

The start of this post mentioned that the game is set 200yrs in the future from Oblivion.... yet the characters clothes, buildings and furniture still looks almost the same..... 

Not much progress for 200yrs in the future????

Swtor takes place 3500 years before the movies and tech is pretty much the same.

I seldomly bother with wondering about stuff like that when I play games. Those timeframes are mainly used to set the seperate stories and backgrounds appart. Whether its 50 years, 200 or 3500. *shrugs*

But you can always wait for a mod to add firearms / motorcycles / warplanes or build one yourself in Skyrim.

im still buying the game at launch cause it looks friggin awesome, but 200yrs in the future with little technological improvements strikes me as odd.

Originally posted by kingtofu

im still buying the game at launch cause it looks friggin awesome, but 200yrs in the future with little technological improvements strikes me as odd.

That's cool. But another thing: if you look at our own history (in Europe that is), you'd see that nothing really changed much between the 1st and 10th century either.

edit: Maybe because we happen to live our lives in a time of industrial, technological and digital revolutions we think progress should be so fast.

Originally posted by kingtofu

im still buying the game at launch cause it looks friggin awesome, but 200yrs in the future with little technological improvements strikes me as odd.

Why build a better mousetrap when you can cast a bigger fireball?

Originally posted by kingtofu

im still buying the game at launch cause it looks friggin awesome, but 200yrs in the future with little technological improvements strikes me as odd.

 Yea they should have Macbooks and facebook

I stopped caring for TOR the game will be Good  but i need somthing with newer elements other then voice actting. So heres to hope that GW 2 will be awesome. On that note Skyrim can tie me over for months if i let it. xD