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  KahPao

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Joined: 10/08/11
Posts: 16

10/25/11 10:12:18 AM#81
Originally posted by precious328

Originally posted by TookyG

The Pandaren existed before Kung Fu Panda.  Why all this hate for that race?  If I had to guess I'd say a lot of the hate is bandwagon crap.





 

That has nothing to do with it.


The fact of the matter is this: If I wanted to get my mom to play, I would show her the Panda race.

That's where many have it all wrong about the actual people that play ( PLAYED ) Wow.  

I'm a 47 year old Mom.   I had played WoW for 5 years and completed all content with my guild until Firelands when the guild broke up.    Last month I unsubbed - permanently this time.   

   I read this about the Pandaran race and thought it was a joke.    There is no way I would be interested in leveling this race.    It's just too ... well... not for me. 

Blizzard has no clue who their catering to any longer. They're grabbing at straws to try to make up for all they have lost with older veteran players leaving the game.  

The generation gaps are showing and the new 12 year old players will be all over this next content. 

 

 

  Eir_S

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Joined: 8/07/11
Posts: 4525

GW2 socialist.

10/25/11 10:17:43 AM#82

The have a roll system now?  And an Asian theme?  Why does Blizzard "innovate" with old ideas?  Looks like I'll FINALLY be freeing up that 30+ gigs of hard drive space.  There's no way I'd go back now.  By the time they're through messing around with their panda race, GW2 will be out and have my full attention and I won't be desperate enough to play this shit.


  User Deleted
10/25/11 10:58:49 AM#83
Originally posted by Ceridith

 



Originally posted by Elidien

No my argument is more along the lines of Why does everyone keep with the same, tireld, old and in some cases wrong arguments. Last time I checked, this is a discussion forum and as such, the purpose is to discuss games. I am all for well thought-out and constructive posts even if I disagree with them or do not like them. 
No, what I am talking about are the multiple threads and hundreds of posts that reference pointless arguments at best and downright wrong information at worst. For example, the- this is something Blizzard came up with recently to cater to the Asian market or to stop the bleeding-argument. Pandarens are the #1 requested addition to the game from the playerbase and have been considered since the BC expansion. The argument is invalid no matter how you structure it.

 


You're right in that this is a discussion forum, and people are discussing the expansion. A lot of people just happen to dislike the direction of said expansion. And sure a lot of it isn't necessarily well thought out or constructive, but it is opinion based.

For example, I think that Pandaren are childish and make the Warcraft lore look like even more of a joke, particularly when they're the spotlight of an expansion. Do I have to explain concisely why? Not at all. Even though I could get into a huge pointless reasoning of what makes something childish and silly, it doesn't really matter because the acceptable "childishness" of the concept is relative in the eye of the beholder.

It doesn't particularly matter why I or others could accept or tolerate a race such as Tauren as being playable race, but dislike Pandaren. It's opinion, and we're within our rights to feel that way, and to discuss our opinion.

As per Pandaren being the number one requested addition to WoW...

Where are you getting this little gem of a statistic from? I could just as equally claim that adding My Little Ponies as a playable race was the number one requested addition to WoW, but without any actual proof it's just anecdotal. If anything, the Emerald Dream and Demonic Worlds seemed to be far more requested of content to be added to WoW, but hey that's just anecdotal evidence from myself as well.

 



Most people who are so upset/angered/shocked/full of hate or whatever it is have already decided to leave WOW and will not return. Their minds are already made up and Pandarens have little or no impact on that decision. Its just another opportunity for them to take a dig at WOW and often times with invalid or pointless arguments. In other words, what people ahve come to expect from WOW haters on this website on a regular basis.


That's pure conjecture, you have no proof of that aside from your belief. Besides, it doesn't even matter if they've decided to leave WoW and not come back, this is a discussion forum for MMO gamers, and WoW is an MMO. If you don't want to take the negative views with the positive, then don't participate in an open discussion forum.

And just to debunk your claim, I quit WoW not long after Cataclysm, but like with other previous times that I had taken a break from WoW, I never completely wrote the game off, I had always returned for expansions. The announcement of this latest expansion however, prompted the opposite reaction from me, like oil to water, and as such I won't be returning to the game explicitly because the next expansion looks terrible to me. And yes, Pandaren are a good portion as to why I won't be returning for the next expansion, among several other reasons, some to do with the expansion, some to do with the state of the game in general.

Where do I get it from? Straight from this blue post pulled from the WOW forums:

http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/203838/was-mop-made-to-appeal-to-the-chinese

Blizzard datamines and survey's their customers often and Pandarens are very popular. And not only is it the most requested, it is so by a large margin.

 

  czekoskwigel

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Joined: 7/22/11
Posts: 488

Some flies are too awesome for the wall.

10/25/11 11:04:26 AM#84
Originally posted by KahPao
Originally posted by precious328

Originally posted by TookyG

The Pandaren existed before Kung Fu Panda.  Why all this hate for that race?  If I had to guess I'd say a lot of the hate is bandwagon crap.





 

That has nothing to do with it.


The fact of the matter is this: If I wanted to get my mom to play, I would show her the Panda race.

That's where many have it all wrong about the actual people that play ( PLAYED ) Wow.  

I'm a 47 year old Mom.   I had played WoW for 5 years and completed all content with my guild until Firelands when the guild broke up.    Last month I unsubbed - permanently this time.   

   I read this about the Pandaran race and thought it was a joke.    There is no way I would be interested in leveling this race.    It's just too ... well... not for me. 

Blizzard has no clue who their catering to any longer. They're grabbing at straws to try to make up for all they have lost with older veteran players leaving the game.  

The generation gaps are showing and the new 12 year old players will be all over this next content. 

 

 

Like it or not, Blizzard knows it's audience.  Sure, you obviously think you know better, but no other MMO has ever had the audience they have had, and no one will ever come close.

You can hate Avatar (i liked it) or Titanic(couldn't stand it), but James Cameron is the MAN when it comes to hitting his target audience.  Blizzard does the same thing.

  Olgark

Advanced Member

Joined: 5/20/10
Posts: 270

10/25/11 11:23:13 AM#85

Stopped playing this game when I realized there are better MMO's out there.


  KahPao

Novice Member

Joined: 10/08/11
Posts: 16

10/25/11 11:37:58 AM#86

 

"Like it or not, Blizzard knows it's audience.  Sure, you obviously think you know better, but no other MMO has ever had the audience they have had, and no one will ever come close.

You can hate Avatar (i liked it) or Titanic(couldn't stand it), but James Cameron is the MAN when it comes to hitting his target audience.  Blizzard does the same thing."

 

This may be true,, but to a degree.  However,  like all wonderful things, even relationships with your game of choice, must come to an end.    

My ride with Blizzard and WoW is over and I personally wish they would have introduced something that made me want to come back.    I miss the friends I played the game with, I miss the social aspect and teamwork I experienced at one time in WoW.    I seriously was a Blizz FanGirl.   Even went to Blizz Con for years, though not this year. 

Now, I play Black Ops with my 15 yr old son and dabble in Eq2.  I'm just waiting for a new MMO experience that speaks to me and has a decent community.   GW2 and SWToR are my hopes for interest.

  Hey,  I love panda's !  But I don't want to be one in a game.  :-)   

If Blizz really knew its audience that well , Cata never would have happened in the way that it did -- They cannot backpeddle enough.   My server of 8k pop , died because of it .. and my new server of 15k is miserable.    I feel sad that Blizz made the errors that they have made and maybe someone will enjoy the new Panda Experience.    It won't be me or my family or my former guild. 

 

 

  Painlezz

Apprentice Member

Joined: 5/30/11
Posts: 627

10/25/11 11:47:01 AM#87

Originally posted by TookyG

The Pandaren existed before Kung Fu Panda.  Why all this hate for that race?  If I had to guess I'd say a lot of the hate is bandwagon crap.





 


Naw, its MMORPG.com.  WoW hate central.  But SHH don't say anything you get introuble!


  Skuldin

Apprentice Member

Joined: 5/30/07
Posts: 83

10/25/11 3:54:27 PM#88

You realize 'Wow-Hate Central' is from people like me that have played this game since freakin BETA in 2003 and have paid Blizzard hundreds of dollars per person? I have bought every expansion to date, i have played so many hours I could be a fricking Doctor if I had put that time into school and I'm telling you Blizzard has jumped the shark. 


I want serious in my games, D3 may be it, SWTOR may be it or GW2 or all 3 may be it, but pandas, goblins and dic$ jokes in the desert talking about the rod of stars or whatever are not it.  I want a saga, a movie like experience i know a TON of people out there like me.  I want consequences to actions and a feeling of community.  WoW has become Guild Wars 1 where you can log in and never set foot outside your home city and just queue queue queue for dungeons/BGs/raids till your hearts are content.  It made the world very tiny and made exploring pointless. 


If that's 'progression' in MMOs then perhaps this genre has passed my old a$$ by.  I feel sorry for people that didnt play  EQ1, DAOC or even Classic WoW they'll never understand the draw of exploring and traveling to a dungeon or the fear of losing gear or at least XP or hell like old WoW hard to obtain gold.  So dont start this tripe about us 'wow-haters' because for the most part we are people that are disenfranchised with a once proud game.  Ask Netflix what it means to mis the target on your audience and what they want. 


Thirty years of gaming experience...not sure if I should be proud of that
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  Breagha

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Joined: 12/27/05
Posts: 134

Meow.

10/25/11 8:52:40 PM#89
When I first saw this, I got confused. I dunno why, but all of a sudden, I had this surreal feeling that we were back in April.

"So I contend that the player stories will always be more powerful than the scripted stories that we try to tell the players."

- Will Wright

  just1opinion

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Joined: 8/14/07
Posts: 4933

10/26/11 10:37:17 AM#90
Originally posted by Kanester

When I 1st seen the Panda's I thought "What a load of pants". After seeing some of the game play they look pretty cool. You would never think by looking, this game is almost 9 years old.


Altho I don't play anymore I still think it's the only game worth subbin to.

 

You're right, you wouldn't because the game is only 7 years old.

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  just1opinion

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10/26/11 10:40:58 AM#91
Originally posted by Painlezz

Originally posted by TookyG

The Pandaren existed before Kung Fu Panda.  Why all this hate for that race?  If I had to guess I'd say a lot of the hate is bandwagon crap.





 

Naw, its MMORPG.com.  WoW hate central.  But SHH don't say anything you get introuble!

 

People have given perfectly good and logical reasons why they don't like what this expansion presents.  You've either chosen not to acknowledge those reasons or simply not to read them.  It's not all about the pandas, it's the entire expansion, the talent point system, the pet battles, really (for me) all of it except the monk class is a fail to please.

 

Just because you don't LIKE the negative opinions doesn't make them less valid than YOUR opinion.

President of The Marvelously Meowhead Fan Club

  User Deleted
10/26/11 10:47:14 AM#92
Originally posted by just1opinion
Originally posted by Kanester

When I 1st seen the Panda's I thought "What a load of pants". After seeing some of the game play they look pretty cool. You would never think by looking, this game is almost 9 years old.


Altho I don't play anymore I still think it's the only game worth subbin to.

 

You're right, you wouldn't because the game is only 7 years old.

By release date, yes. The game was announced on September 2, 2001 so...I guess the game itself, the engine, the whole shebang is just as old if not older than 7 years (parts of the graphics engine originally used in Warcraft III).

So for a 7+ year old game yes, it doesn't look as bad as people say. 

  Grrl

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10/31/11 11:03:44 PM#93
Originally posted by TookyG

The Pandaren existed before Kung Fu Panda.  Why all this hate for that race?  If I had to guess I'd say a lot of the hate is bandwagon crap.

 

 

I concur. Obviously they've never read the books :) 

  Aneova

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11/01/11 9:01:47 AM#94

Just gonna say... Everquest 2 did it first, and did it better. Anyone and any class can be a panda, grind a bit of faction pick a clicky (4 different panda looks), unlimited charges and you too can be Kung Fu Fighting. Monks and Bruisers were in on Day 1 :P

  jlbomba

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Live to die another day

11/01/11 12:39:50 PM#95

i have been playing wow since creation and they are always coming up with something new to keep it from getting boring.  Kung Fu panda sounds like fun.  keep up the good work blizzard.


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  Olgark

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11/01/11 12:46:01 PM#96

I love the monk classes in RPG's but a panda ermm no thanks what is this is a disney film or something ?


  jlbomba

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11/01/11 12:49:41 PM#97

Originally posted by Olgark

Stopped playing this game when I realized there are better MMO's out there.





i have played them all and wow is the best of the best. the new stuff goes free to play because it is worthless.  what you get is tons of kiddys in free to play.  just one of the reasons i don't play LOTRO, Guild Wars, Conan , or D&D. blizzard is always adding new content to make and keep it interesting.


 


 


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  jlbomba

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11/01/11 12:50:47 PM#98

name the better games, so far i havn't found any


 


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