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  Tardcore

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10/29/11 3:47:11 PM#21

You have to love the irony of the posters defending this xpac with the justification that they like it, yet those criticizing it by the justification that they don't like it are demonized as mindless haters. So which is it people? Do at least some of the people in both camps have rational relevant opinions or are both camps nothing but mindless drones?

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  NIII

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10/29/11 3:49:24 PM#22

Personally, I think the pandas take away from the fantasy setting of the game. You can argue that they have been in lore, but lets not forget they were also used as an april fools joke.

In my opinion, a fantasy game should not include an asian setting, simply because asia is not in the fantasy world. I didn't like it when guild wars did it, I don't like it now.

Also, the entire thing seems to be just thrown together like there was no work put into it.

  • The names; Pandaren, of the Pandaren Empire, hailing from the island of Pandaria. They could have been a little bit more imaginative with the names.
  • I'm guessing the Pandaren had their chinese like culture before they left Kalimdor, and then they just so happened to stumble across an island that is very chinese like?
  • The geography of the island; the island is a circle. That is all I have to say about that.
  • It is actually relatively new, lore wise, in the warcraft universe. It would be different if they were there from the start.
  • The entire expansion is stereotyping; the pandas are fat, drunk, kung fu masters, with typical chinese architecture.
Now, I understand that alot of people like the idea, and that's fine, they probably play more than me, and the game isn't changed according to my opinion. That being said, alot of the people that would enjoy this expansion, would also enjoy any other expansion handed to them by Blizzard, as they are strong supporters of what Blizzard does.

It's okay to like pandas, but if you're going to pull races from lore, you should at least pick one with a little bit more significance, and something that will fit naturally in the setting that is already there.

  Laughing-man

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I thought what I'd do is I'd pretend I was one of those Deaf-mutes.

10/29/11 3:52:59 PM#23
Originally posted by Tardcore

You have to love the irony of the posters defending this xpac with the justification that they like it, yet those criticizing it by the justification that they don't like it are demonized as mindless haters. So which is it people? Do at least some of the people in both camps have rational relevant opinions or are both camps nothing but mindless drones?

Generalizing both sides!  Wow talk about take your own advice?

Way to deamonize both sides of an issue while complaining about both sides doing the same exact thing?

Do you realize how ironic that is?

  Laughing-man

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I thought what I'd do is I'd pretend I was one of those Deaf-mutes.

10/29/11 3:56:54 PM#24
Originally posted by NIII

Personally, I think the pandas take away from the fantasy setting of the game. You can argue that they have been in lore, but lets not forget they were also used as an april fools joke.

In my opinion, a fantasy game should not include an asian setting, simply because asia is not in the fantasy world. I didn't like it when guild wars did it, I don't like it now.

Also, the entire thing seems to be just thrown together like there was no work put into it.

  • The names; Pandaren, of the Pandaren Empire, hailing from the island of Pandaria. They could have been a little bit more imaginative with the names.
  • I'm guessing the Pandaren had their chinese like culture before they left Kalimdor, and then they just so happened to stumble across an island that is very chinese like?
  • The geography of the island; the island is a circle. That is all I have to say about that.
  • It is actually relatively new, lore wise, in the warcraft universe. It would be different if they were there from the start.
  • The entire expansion is stereotyping; the pandas are fat, drunk, kung fu masters, with typical chinese architecture.
Now, I understand that alot of people like the idea, and that's fine, they probably play more than me, and the game isn't changed according to my opinion. That being said, alot of the people that would enjoy this expansion, would also enjoy any other expansion handed to them by Blizzard, as they are strong supporters of what Blizzard does.

It's okay to like pandas, but if you're going to pull races from lore, you should at least pick one with a little bit more significance, and something that will fit naturally in the setting that is already there.

-They were never IN kalimdor, they were there PRE sundering. (Which is to say their island was never part of Pangea Azeroth, meaning they always had their island and their culture)

-Circle island encourages PVP to be very "CENTRIC" see the world circle in centric, which is a huge complaint the community has, the world PVP is scattered.

-2003 is not "relatively new"  (Pandaren were spoken off and in WC3 back in 2003)

-So its stereotyping?  So chinese people are all fat and rolly polly and know kung fu?   what?

you don't even HAVE half the information you are speculating on...

Edit: Just for clairity there was a picture chris Metzen was referring to as the potential races for the Alliance back in 2003 when they were making the game, the picture included Furbolgs, Pandaren, Gnomes, and Dwarves.

Guess what?  That makes Panda's part of their CORE canon storyline.  Sorry to break it to ya.

Here is the link  YAY  Proof.. http://images.wikia.com/wowwiki/images/e/e2/Heroraces.jpg

Notice the date.... 2003...

 

 

  Quesa

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10/29/11 4:03:24 PM#25
Originally posted by NIII

Personally, I think the pandas take away from the fantasy setting of the game. You can argue that they have been in lore, but lets not forget they were also used as an april fools joke.

In my opinion, a fantasy game should not include an asian setting, simply because asia is not in the fantasy world. I didn't like it when guild wars did it, I don't like it now.

Also, the entire thing seems to be just thrown together like there was no work put into it.

  • The names; Pandaren, of the Pandaren Empire, hailing from the island of Pandaria. They could have been a little bit more imaginative with the names.
  • I'm guessing the Pandaren had their chinese like culture before they left Kalimdor, and then they just so happened to stumble across an island that is very chinese like?
  • The geography of the island; the island is a circle. That is all I have to say about that.
  • It is actually relatively new, lore wise, in the warcraft universe. It would be different if they were there from the start.
  • The entire expansion is stereotyping; the pandas are fat, drunk, kung fu masters, with typical chinese architecture.
Now, I understand that alot of people like the idea, and that's fine, they probably play more than me, and the game isn't changed according to my opinion. That being said, alot of the people that would enjoy this expansion, would also enjoy any other expansion handed to them by Blizzard, as they are strong supporters of what Blizzard does.

It's okay to like pandas, but if you're going to pull races from lore, you should at least pick one with a little bit more significance, and something that will fit naturally in the setting that is already there.

Beyond how formatted this post is, I find it staggering that you were able to shove so much opinion into a post that you have given the appearance of being fact.

  Quesa

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10/29/11 4:05:05 PM#26
Originally posted by Tardcore

You have to love the irony of the posters defending this xpac with the justification that they like it, yet those criticizing it by the justification that they don't like it are demonized as mindless haters. So which is it people? Do at least some of the people in both camps have rational relevant opinions or are both camps nothing but mindless drones?

It's just like any other polarized topic.  People on one side think the other is irrational and vice versa. 

  r3zs1ckn3ss

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10/29/11 4:15:43 PM#27

There are no facts here. People are just defending their opinions. People have those. In medievil times where you had knights and armor blah blah blah, asian people did exist. Taurens are animals just like pandas. Pandas are just more lovable. If people are excited about it and editors want to do what they do which is posting news on MMOs then so be it. Who are you to judge what other people enjoy? What you consider lame isn't the same for everyone else.

I'll say this once more. Play it or don't and quit crying over it. I'm sure the original purpose of this post was to post something new and have people share their opinions and not complaints about it. Some people take this stuff way too seriously.

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  Dauntis

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10/29/11 4:18:00 PM#28

All I can say is I hope they have a battle cry "Skadoosh!"

I like WoW but already preordered SWTOR so unless it blows I probably won't be getting MoP.

Disclaimer: I would like to comment on this, but please read my comments in a completely deadpan monotone as some of my past comments have been seen as inflamatory and trollish. Humor is not always welcomed around these parts. So know that the following comment is not meant to contain anything but my opinion with no emotional investment. PLEASE DON'T BAN ME FOR HAVING OPINIONS AND A SENSE OF HUMOR.

  jackdaw31

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10/29/11 4:22:57 PM#29

Actually, a lot of people posting their dislike at the very thought of this new expansion have not even mentioned that they will quit WoW......


But, for all the talk of people up in arms at past expansions, you gotta admit, this one seems to have prevoked the most ire.....


Too many alts!!

  Corehaven

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10/29/11 4:25:03 PM#30

Game Informer did a pretty good pod cast covering all sides of the issue that I highly enjoyed. 

 

Linky:  http://www.gameinformer.com/b/podcasts/archive/2011/10/28/respec-radio-ep-25-pandamonium.aspx

 

Im glad at least one gaming site is kind of staying objective about it.  Instead of gushing over this expansion. 

  Laughing-man

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I thought what I'd do is I'd pretend I was one of those Deaf-mutes.

10/29/11 4:28:10 PM#31
Originally posted by jackdaw31

Actually, a lot of people posting their dislike at the very thought of this new expansion have not even mentioned that they will quit WoW......


But, for all the talk of people up in arms at past expansions, you gotta admit, this one seems to have prevoked the most ire.....

Are you sure you remember how upset people were when shamans were able to roll ally and pallys roll horde?

cus I remember a lot more hatred... I'll be honest this was the begining of bring the player not the class and a lot of people who liked WoW for being like the Old School MMO's left at this point.

 

  Distopia

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10/29/11 4:32:42 PM#32
Originally posted by Corehaven

Game Informer did a pretty good pod cast covering all sides of the issue that I highly enjoyed. 

 

Linky:  http://www.gameinformer.com/b/podcasts/archive/2011/10/28/respec-radio-ep-25-pandamonium.aspx

 

Im glad at least one gaming site is kind of staying objective about it.  Instead of gushing over this expansion. 

I surely hope you're saying that in jest. The article was about how the panda man came to be, how is that gushing over anything?

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  OgreRaper

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10/29/11 4:33:12 PM#33

Good article.


Oh, and one of Blizzard's community manager mentioned that since Blizzcon has started, the #1 requested thing that they've been getting from their suggestion box is Pandaren as a playable race. The players wanted this. I'm one of them, I think Pandaren are an awesome race and I'm rerolling one for my main.


 


  Corehaven

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10/29/11 4:36:13 PM#34
Originally posted by Distopia
Originally posted by Corehaven

Game Informer did a pretty good pod cast covering all sides of the issue that I highly enjoyed. 

 

Linky:  http://www.gameinformer.com/b/podcasts/archive/2011/10/28/respec-radio-ep-25-pandamonium.aspx

 

Im glad at least one gaming site is kind of staying objective about it.  Instead of gushing over this expansion. 

I surely hope you're saying that in jest. The article was about how the panda man came to be, how is that gushing over anything?

 

Didnt name any names did I ?   : P

 

Also the article was in defence of the expansion if anything.  Just like every single article on this site thats been written about it.  Which is fine in a way, but its not THAT good of an idea. 

  zinger71

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10/29/11 4:38:00 PM#35
Can't wait /period
  Heatsink98

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10/29/11 4:52:42 PM#36

Originally posted by Laughing-man


Originally posted by Tardcore


You have to love the irony of the posters defending this xpac with the justification that they like it, yet those criticizing it by the justification that they don't like it are demonized as mindless haters. So which is it people? Do at least some of the people in both camps have rational relevant opinions or are both camps nothing but mindless drones?



Generalizing both sides!  Wow talk about take your own advice?


Way to deamonize both sides of an issue while complaining about both sides doing the same exact thing?


Do you realize how ironic that is?



 


The poster you quoted is objectively correct in his assessment, while your statements are inflammatory and non-sensical.  If you don't understand what he posted, read it again.  And then lookup the meaning of irony.


  Hopscotch73

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10/29/11 5:09:32 PM#37

Originally posted by Laughing-man

Here, lets try an experiement.


Go to google, type in ___ ruined WoW.


___  = any ex pack.


OH LOOK!   This phanomanon happens EVERY SINGLE TIME AN EX PACK GETS RELEASED!


Facinating!



 


Well yeah, but that's partly because anyone who has played the same game for 7 years straight isn't likely to handle change very well....no matter what that change is.


 


  Laughing-man

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I thought what I'd do is I'd pretend I was one of those Deaf-mutes.

10/29/11 5:13:15 PM#38
Originally posted by Heatsink98

Originally posted by Laughing-man


Originally posted by Tardcore


You have to love the irony of the posters defending this xpac with the justification that they like it, yet those criticizing it by the justification that they don't like it are demonized as mindless haters. So which is it people? Do at least some of the people in both camps have rational relevant opinions or are both camps nothing but mindless drones?


Generalizing both sides!  Wow talk about take your own advice?


Way to deamonize both sides of an issue while complaining about both sides doing the same exact thing?


Do you realize how ironic that is?



 

The poster you quoted is objectively correct in his assessment, while your statements are inflammatory and non-sensical.  If you don't understand what he posted, read it again.  And then lookup the meaning of irony.

He uses irony incorrectly, so I too used it incorrectly.

Was ment as satire, however I see you missed that...

Irony - when something the reverse of what is expected to happen, happens.

I would think that people on two sides of an argument demonizing each other would be expected... not ironic at all...

Edit:  Still I think its ridiculous he would generalize both sides in an arguement (see my highlights) and then act like hes not contributing to the problem.  He is stating that neighter side has stated anything "relevant" and is essentially dismissing all arguements by both sides as being void.

 

  Ovum

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10/29/11 5:17:37 PM#39

As a 5 year ex-member of WoW.. uhm .. so, things are gonna get messy? Uhm..OK.


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  kishe

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10/29/11 5:19:17 PM#40
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