Originally posted by Yamota

this is not rocket science people. Adults usually dont want to engage into activities which are, or can be perceived as, childish activities. And pandaren can be seen as a quite childish, silly race.

*rolls eyes* playing computer games is a childish activity.

Srsly, people. My uberpaladin with lvl9 sword of Violet is mature, but pandas are just too childish? Srsly!

You make me die inside with each post. Because if I'm in your company, there is something wrong with me.

All i have to say is...

2 CE's pre-orderd and a household that is looking forward to this expansion.

Me i am just glad the bloody world does not need to be saved from a larger than life crisis AGAIN.. three times is well enough...

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Originally posted by Yamota
this is not rocket science people. Adults usually dont want to engage into activities which are, or can be perceived as, childish activities. And pandaren can be seen as a quite childish, silly race.

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Originally posted by Yamota

this is not rocket science people. Adults usually dont want to engage into activities which are, or can be perceived as, childish activities. And pandaren can be seen as a quite childish, silly race.

ER, to most of the world, playing online video games is childish and silly, so if someone is really worried about it the train left the station quite some time ago.

Originally posted by Yamota

this is not rocket science people. Adults usually dont want to engage into activities which are, or can be perceived as, childish activities. And pandaren can be seen as a quite childish, silly race.

It's actually the other way around. Children don't want to engage in activities which are, or can be perceived as childish activities because their friends may make fun of them for playing a kid's game. Children want to seem older and more mature than they are, so they play bloody, violent games.

Adults (or at least, mature adults) play what's fun and don't give a damn what other people think.

Do you go into Age of Conan and find yourself surrounded by mature, responsible adults? Of course not; you see a bunch of thin skinned down syndrome babies playing topless female characters.

Originally posted by Yamota

this is not rocket science people. Adults usually dont want to engage into activities which are, or can be perceived as, childish activities. And pandaren can be seen as a quite childish, silly race.

 

Originally posted by daltanious

Originally posted by Yamota

this is not rocket science people. Adults usually dont want to engage into activities which are, or can be perceived as, childish activities. And pandaren can be seen as a quite childish, silly race.

 

 

 

50 here and love idea as said. And they are not more silly then  gnomes or goblins. Wow is fantasy world. And if in Cata some area looked like being in Nile delta who cares?

Originally posted by grawss

Originally posted by Yamota

this is not rocket science people. Adults usually dont want to engage into activities which are, or can be perceived as, childish activities. And pandaren can be seen as a quite childish, silly race.

 

It's actually the other way around. Children don't want to engage in activities which are, or can be perceived as childish activities because their friends may make fun of them for playing a kid's game. Children want to seem older and more mature than they are, so they play bloody, violent games.

Adults (or at least, mature adults) play what's fun and don't give a damn what other people think.

Do you go into Age of Conan and find yourself surrounded by mature, responsible adults? Of course not; you see a bunch of thin skinned down syndrome babies playing topless female characters.

 

He, he, ... good point.

Between Kung-Fu Panda, Pokeman games, and the Alliance, once again, getting curb-stomped, I'm done with WoW.

Developers are fully aware of the fact that the most vocal players (in the forums) are by and far the minority of their players.  The forums represent a fraction of actual players because, in all reality, the players are too busy -playing- the game.

And lets face it, happy players don't complain and/or don't venture the forums.

So the forums are basically made up of a couple different people:

1)  Players who feel like they are smarter than other people and want everyone to know it through their incessant griping and TLDR posts that make them feel like they matter.

2) Unhappy players who feel like they've been slighted in some way and feel the need to go to the forums and complain.

3) Trolls.  (And we all know what this is.)

My thought is it's no more kiddy or strange than anything else in WoW.  They've got a very good and surprisingly enduring art design.  It does fit as far as style.  I think those that don't like WoW will use it as an example how bad the game is and those that do like WoW will eventually come to like the idea.  Pokemon in Azaeroth is only "bad" because of how similar the system is to a known kids game.  Again I think once people get their hands on it it will cease to be a negative.

The only thing that really get's me for the expansion is how they have a real chance to expand things in ways I hoped they would aka housing of some sort.. something completely different ect ect... they are doing "different" and it's the right direction but it's not that far off what they already have which in the long run "might" be for the best.  Only time will tell. 

This whole fight kind of reminds me of cod vs battlefield.  People hate cod because it's so horribly popular... and on the other side battlefield is the first real competition for that franchise.. people are so emotionally connected to these games sometimes they don't think objectively.  For those that really want something different.. there's a lot of other choices coming in 2012.  I don't think anyone's going to lose out here.

Originally posted by aRtFuLThinG

Originally posted by headphones

Originally posted by Otinashi

Originally posted by Johnie-Marz

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Blizzard is making Wow so that it is too easy.  There is no challenge like the game used to be.  It is all about pleasing the "I want it now" crowd and I really do not want anything to do with people who enjoy no challenge.

You do understant that only 1 percent of the woW population has defeted Ragnaros on Heroic mode.

 

 

 

 

If you compared that to the percentage of actual progressing raiding guilds within the WoW population you would have more of a point. FYI: The entire WoW Pop doesn't raid.

and they don't because they can't. not because they don't want to. raiding is a ridiculous element to any game. any element which locks out the majority of your players is ridiculous. it's like having paytv and being told you can only watch one of the 50 odd channels, but that if you watch 10 hours a day and can recite the upcoming guide to what's on for the next year at any given time, then you can unlock another few channels.

i don't think it's making anything easy by letting everyone have a chance to play the game they're paying for. there's nothing challenging about a boss with double lifepoints who never does anything outside of a set series of moves you can easily discover on youtube anyway. the only real challenge with raiding is getting the group together out of the few other guys you know who have egos the size of a small planetoid.

 

Not everyone likes/wants/aspires to raid. A lot of pvpers don't raid at all. Your point is still invalid.

and i think you should see a doctor for yours.

Originally posted by opposedcrow

Anyone hating on the expansion, making all these claims about how MoP is gonna "kill WoW" or turn it into a "kiddie game" needs to grow up and at least try to do some research before they start slinging insults.  Oh and until they make a game better than WoW, they need to stop thinking they know more about what will appeal to customers than Blizzard; the same Blizzard that's given us the Warcraft, Starcraft, and Diablo franchises.

Blizzard has stated quite clearly that they've wanted to get playable Pandaren into WoW for a long time now, one of the first major facts they revealed was that Pandaren were going to be the Alliance race for Burning Crusade but they changed it to Draenei for lore purposes. And as for Blizzard trying to appeal more to Chinese markets with the pet-battle system and Asian-themed continent, I laugh at the idea that not one single American player is excited to get to explore Pandaria and be able to customize, name, train, and battle their pets.

While I agree the PvE scenarioes seem eerily like LoTRO's skirmishes, I'm actually quite happy with that comparison since skirmishes were one of the elements of LoTRO I really enjoyed. And finally anyone who thinks this new talent system is going to be "dumbed down" or will rob players of their originality/choices, that's about as cynical and paranoid as you can get. If anything this new system will only *bolster* our choices since now we won't be forced to play certain classes/specs for certain activites and we'll finally be able to pick which powers/abilities we do/don't want based on *our* choice, not the system's.

I'm well aware that haters will continue to hate but I for one am very excited for MoP for pretty much every reason the article detailed and especially for playable Monks.

 

Until they make a game better than wow? Where have you been? I can name at least 3 off the top of my head that are WAY better than WoW. And no, there is no correlation to sales meaning a game is better as that logic actually supports the belief that Justin Bieber is better than every other band out there and I REFUSE to accept that or believe it lol. Go look up his youtube vids and see what I mean. Anyway. Stop assuming and stating that one game is better than another as if it is a fact when it is so obviously an opinion. Or do I need to actually state the definition of each one of those words to you here as well.

Originally posted by Epicent

Until they make a game better than wow? Where have you been? I can name at least 3 off the top of my head that are WAY better than WoW. And no, there is no correlation to sales meaning a game is better as that logic actually supports the belief that Justin Bieber is better than every other band out there and I REFUSE to accept that or believe it lol. Go look up his youtube vids and see what I mean. Anyway. Stop assuming and stating that one game is better than another as if it is a fact when it is so obviously an opinion. Or do I need to actually state the definition of each one of those words to you here as well.

Irony on the internet is funny every time.

Why all the hate?  Are you serious?

The gamers who frequent this site are UNDER OBLIGATION to hate on WoW.  The same way any credible scientist is under obligation to hate on creationists.  They'd feel like they lose all sense of credibility of being a "serious mmorpg player" if they even hinted that they actually like anything WoW has to offer.

Indeed, it wouldn't surprise me to learn that 50% of the wow haters are liars and actually suscribe and play WoW.

People hate on WoW because it's tres chic to do so on forums.  It has very little to do with how they really feel concerning the game.

Originally posted by Aguitha

Kung fu Panda is only the beginning, the next two races would be Ninja Turtle and Power Rangers.... stupid Blizzard.

I do have to say that the Pandarian/monk/asian influence concept was in Warcraft WAY before hollywood got the idea for a martial arts panda movie.

Originally posted by grawss

Originally posted by Yamota

... Adults usually dont want to engage into activities which are, or can be perceived as, childish activities.  

It's actually the other way around. Children don't want to engage in activities which are, or can be perceived as childish activities because their friends may make fun of them

I am nearly 30 and I hate the whole pandas idea, so just take it for granted - most elder players hate the stupidity of the panda idea.  Not just because it is childish, but because it is f**g stupid and doesn't have to do anything with the whole WoW idea at all. The Kung Fu panda is not simply childish cartoon, but the f**g stupid one... Blizz have just put their money on the wrong horse.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warcraft_3                 July 3,2002

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kung_Fu_Panda     June 6,2008

Maybe some one was a fan of WC first

Originally posted by DaddyDark

Originally posted by grawss

Originally posted by Yamota

... Adults usually dont want to engage into activities which are, or can be perceived as, childish activities.  

It's actually the other way around. Children don't want to engage in activities which are, or can be perceived as childish activities because their friends may make fun of them

I am nearly 30 and I hate the whole pandas idea, so just take it for granted - most elder players hate the stupidity of the panda idea.  Not just because it is childish, but because it is f**g stupid and doesn't have to do anything with the whole WoW idea at all. The Kung Fu panda is not simply childish cartoon, but the f**g stupid one... Blizz have just put their money on the wrong horse.  

Well, I'm 44 and I'm indifferent to it.

It's true that children don't want to appear childish and will do everything in their little power to seem more adult.

Having said that, there are people who think that video games are, in general, childish. So where does that leave us?

It really is all about one's interest/tolerance for whimsy.

There are adults who will see animated movies and adults who would never lower themselves to do that.

One of my favorite series EVER is the Avatar series. It's animated and clearly speaks to children. But there is so much more in there that adults can love.

Pandas stupid? meh, I'd rather have the Pandas than the goblins. I've alway thougth the WoW goblins looked horrible.

In the end this is a "to each his own" matter.

Originally posted by zaylin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warcraft_3                 July 3,2002

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kung_Fu_Panda     June 6,2008

 

Maybe some one was a fan of WC first

i was a fan. try as i might i can't find any pandas in w1 or w2.