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  Zzad

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Joined: 2/14/11
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10/22/11 7:55:15 PM#61
Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by garrett

Just keep in mind how big WoW is in China...

 

this


 

Obviously WoW has changed  their aiming player base.

Now they aim for chinesse 10-17 year old playerbase.....millions of them.

If u like to play children games cheer up! :P

  Netgamer7k

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10/22/11 8:16:56 PM#62

If any of you think they made this expansion because of China (lol) you're clearly haven't seen how long Pandarens have been waiting to be in the game. Did they make Worgens to target the British audience? You guys make no sense.

  teakbois

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Posts: 2190

10/22/11 8:25:29 PM#63

1.  If the forums are any indication, this will severely up the quality level of the playerbase in WoW.  The people going 'Pandas what a joke Im quitting LOL kids game' are (generally speaking) the immature people that WoW is famous for


2.  removal of talent trees and addition of the new skill choosing system wouldnt be as bad f they didnt say they wanted to encourage more hybrid builds and unique things.  What it will do is make PvP a lot more interesting, as 75% or more of the talent choices seem PvP geared.  For instance, all3  of the level 90 Druid choices involve shapeshifting.  As a promary PvE player I find these changes very underwhelming.  It probably will make it so people dont have quite the same set up, but is it really that different if I can charge every 12 seconds vs double charge vs charge adds a root to my prot warrior?


 


Setting and Race are fine.  Talent revamp + not addressing the stupid gear recycling end game treadmill that people are sick of kind of ruin it.


  teakbois

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10/22/11 8:27:15 PM#64

Originally posted by itgrowls

This move is the equivolent of them making the cows in Diablo on the cow level a playable race in order to keep Diablo's numbers high in india.





 


They made them a starting race in WoW instead and turned em into American Indians


  Johnie-Marz

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10/22/11 8:33:47 PM#65
Originally posted by teakbois

1.  If the forums are any indication, this will severely up the quality level of the playerbase in WoW.  The people going 'Pandas what a joke Im quitting LOL kids game' are (generally speaking) the immature people that WoW is famous for


2.  removal of talent trees and addition of the new skill choosing system wouldnt be as bad f they didnt say they wanted to encourage more hybrid builds and unique things.  What it will do is make PvP a lot more interesting, as 75% or more of the talent choices seem PvP geared.  For instance, all3  of the level 90 Druid choices involve shapeshifting.  As a promary PvE player I find these changes very underwhelming.  It probably will make it so people dont have quite the same set up, but is it really that different if I can charge every 12 seconds vs double charge vs charge adds a root to my prot warrior?


 


Setting and Race are fine.  Talent revamp + not addressing the stupid gear recycling end game treadmill that people are sick of kind of ruin it.

I am pretty sure Blizzard painted themselves in a corner with the talent trees. It worked for 40 levels then as each new expansion came out Blizzard realized their mistake. In the long run they will probably come up with a new system. The one they are trying with MoP probably isn't the keeper.

LoTRo's scaling talent system with Deeds and Traits is interesting but killing 300 of these and 300 of that in order to get the traits make the game seem a little grindy.

  rox52

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10/22/11 10:41:24 PM#66

Not appealing.


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  OkhamsRazor

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10/22/11 10:43:32 PM#67

Everyone uses the existing lore to explain this . Yeah theres been shades of sillyness in WoW for years but the emphasis has always been on the sidelines and never the entire subject of an expansion pack. Theres a huge difference between the two .


But by all means keep quoting the lore as a defence in this subject it wont stop most people think Kung Fu Panda rip off . Just as it wont stop pet battles being likened to Pokemon .


At the end of the day you've got to work out for yourself if this is game you want to play or return to .


For me thats a big No . Not anymore .


What on earth are Blizzard thinking .


 


  Mazin

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Posts: 654

It's time to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all outta gum.

10/22/11 10:55:24 PM#68

This expansion actually makes a lot of sense. 


With TOR coming out, WoW will lose a big portion of their NA/EU playerbase.  No, I'm not saying that TOR is a WoW killer, just that it will take a large chunk.


This leaves the already higher percentage of WoW players, which is the Asian market the overwhelming majority playing WoW, to make an expansion geared towards their culture is brilliant on Blizzards part imo.


  teakbois

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10/22/11 10:59:09 PM#69

Originally posted by OkhamsRazor

Everyone uses the existing lore to explain this . Yeah theres been shades of sillyness in WoW for years but the emphasis has always been on the sidelines and never the entire subject of an expansion pack. Theres a huge difference between the two .




But by all means keep quoting the lore as a defence in this subject it wont stop most people think Kung Fu Panda rip off . Just as it wont stop pet battles being likened to Pokemon .




At the end of the day you've got to work out for yourself if this is game you want to play or return to .




For me thats a big No . Not anymore .




What on earth are Blizzard thinking .




 





 


I dont see any silliness though.  No way its more silly than the goblins.  If Pandarens are all bumbling idiots, then yes, but it looks like they wont be.  But its an asian themed expansion, they want to unleash the two greedy, warring factions on a serene peaceful land.  Is it really that bad to have the Panda as the representation for this race?  It fits 100% in WoW's world and really inst silly at all.


 


A werewolve dancing like lady gaga and an elf dancing like michael jackson, THATS silly.


  Laughing-man

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Joined: 4/23/09
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I thought what I'd do is I'd pretend I was one of those Deaf-mutes.

10/22/11 11:00:36 PM#70

Kung Fu Panda 2008

WC3 the frozen throne 2003.  (it had Padaren)

See why everyones making fun of the people who say this is Kung Fu Panda now?

Good.

 

Now on to 6 talent points.

Yes you actually get to CHOSE talent points, they customize your character, they aren't an idiot check any more, they let you pick how you want to play your tank dps or healer.  There are 3 options per tier and each option would work for any of the specs available to the class.

Old Talents = cookie cutter builds with no real choices or options.

New Talents = make it so two tanks of the same class are different two healers of the same class are different etc.

YAY for new unique game play elements and talents that make your character unique.

 

Everyone who is complaining has no idea what they are talking about sadly :-(  They just saw panda and went nuts

  jadedlevir

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10/22/11 11:03:10 PM#71
  They just saw Blizzard and went nuts

Fixed*

  Laughing-man

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I thought what I'd do is I'd pretend I was one of those Deaf-mutes.

10/22/11 11:04:41 PM#72
Originally posted by jadedlevir
Originally posted by Laughing-man                                                                                                                                      They just saw Blizzard and went nuts

Fixed*

And I agree that works too

  GreenHell

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10/22/11 11:05:04 PM#73
Originally posted by Mazin

This expansion actually makes a lot of sense. 


With TOR coming out, WoW will lose a big portion of their NA/EU playerbase.  No, I'm not saying that TOR is a WoW killer, just that it will take a large chunk.


This leaves the already higher percentage of WoW players, which is the Asian market the overwhelming majority playing WoW, to make an expansion geared towards their culture is brilliant on Blizzards part imo.

I really don't think that is it at all. You overestimate how many people will leave WoW. There have been other games where people have made the same predictions and yet WoW continues on its path of total domination. ToR will be no different to WoW than Warhammer, Conan, Rift  or (insert imaginary WoW killer name here) was.

 

  Scypheroth

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Joined: 10/15/11
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10/22/11 11:06:41 PM#74

Been playing WoW since it first came out...been playing Warcraft since day one on my DOS system...now with this new ridiculas expansion comming out i am going to say that for once i am ashamed of owning and supporting blizzard over the years....this is the biggest slap in the face since female dwarfs with no beards....

  Quesa

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Joined: 6/16/04
Posts: 1265

10/22/11 11:07:42 PM#75

During the Winter, there won't be a choice made by players to either play ToR or WoW.  I'd say the vast majority of people who buy and play ToR will still have an active WoW account and play both.  It will be around Spring when people finally decide that 1 sub-MMO will be more than enough for them and begin to drop one or the other.

With that being said, WoW isn't going anywhere soon and ToR, even though I believe it will have a large sub-base, won't affect the bottom line of Blizzard anytime soon.  In the end, it will come down to whoever is able to push out content the fastest to keep the playerbase interested.

  Laughing-man

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Joined: 4/23/09
Posts: 3395

I thought what I'd do is I'd pretend I was one of those Deaf-mutes.

10/22/11 11:10:18 PM#76
Originally posted by Scypheroth

Been playing WoW since it first came out...been playing Warcraft since day one on my DOS system...now with this new ridiculas expansion comming out i am going to say that for once i am ashamed of owning and supporting blizzard over the years....this is the biggest slap in the face since female dwarfs with no beards....

Did you buy Frozen throne?

They had Pandaren.

What about fool me twice?

  Wraithone

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Joined: 7/09/04
Posts: 3584

If you can't kill it, don't make it mad.

10/22/11 11:57:09 PM#77
Originally posted by Zzad
Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by garrett

Just keep in mind how big WoW is in China...

 

this


 

Obviously WoW has changed  their aiming player base.

Now they aim for chinesse 10-17 year old playerbase.....millions of them.

If u like to play children games cheer up! :P

 

Millions and millions and millions of them... ^^  From a business stand point, it makes all the sense in the world.  The Asian markets are greater than NA and Europe combined at this point, and they will only increase. Their population is also used to cash shops in their games.  At this point, Blizzard could lose everyone in NA and Europe and still have millions of players, and that will only increase with the next expansion. 

  Elidien

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10/22/11 11:58:45 PM#78
Originally posted by Wraithone
Originally posted by Zzad
Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by garrett

Just keep in mind how big WoW is in China...

 

this


 

Obviously WoW has changed  their aiming player base.

Now they aim for chinesse 10-17 year old playerbase.....millions of them.

If u like to play children games cheer up! :P

 

Millions and millions and millions of them... ^^  From a business stand point, it makes all the sense in the world.  The Asian markets are greater than NA and Europe combined at this point, and they will only increase. Their population is also used to cash shops in their games.  At this point, Blizzard could lose everyone in NA and Europe and still have millions of players, and that will only increase with the next expansion. 

The only problem is the government of those millions will never approve the expansion. if you think getting WOTLk through the Chinese government censors was difficult, this will be even worse.

  Wraithone

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Joined: 7/09/04
Posts: 3584

If you can't kill it, don't make it mad.

10/23/11 12:05:21 AM#79
Originally posted by Elidien
Originally posted by Wraithone
Originally posted by Zzad
Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by garrett

Just keep in mind how big WoW is in China...

 

this


 

Obviously WoW has changed  their aiming player base.

Now they aim for chinesse 10-17 year old playerbase.....millions of them.

If u like to play children games cheer up! :P

 

Millions and millions and millions of them... ^^  From a business stand point, it makes all the sense in the world.  The Asian markets are greater than NA and Europe combined at this point, and they will only increase. Their population is also used to cash shops in their games.  At this point, Blizzard could lose everyone in NA and Europe and still have millions of players, and that will only increase with the next expansion. 

The only problem is the government of those millions will never approve the expansion. if you think getting WOTLk through the Chinese government censors was difficult, this will be even worse.

 

Depends on who their partner is, and how many palms can be well greased. Don't kid yourself, the officials of the Chinese government are up for sale, just as those of any nation state are.  All it takes is the proper connections, resources and approach.   It remains to be seen if Blizzards partner has what it takes. Time will tell. 

  Xstatic912

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10/23/11 12:08:23 AM#80
Originally posted by Laughing-man
Originally posted by Scypheroth

Been playing WoW since it first came out...been playing Warcraft since day one on my DOS system...now with this new ridiculas expansion comming out i am going to say that for once i am ashamed of owning and supporting blizzard over the years....this is the biggest slap in the face since female dwarfs with no beards....

Did you buy Frozen throne?

They had Pandaren.

What about fool me twice?

LoL, thats what crack me up when i see people posting claiming they played the Warcraft series, but yet still they are shock the Pandas are in WoW.. If some persons where part of the WoW forum, they would have seen that people were requesting Pandarens since the first Expansion. Why, because they saw WoW as a game Blizz could fully tell the tale of Pandarens race that where last seen in Warcraft 3... I find it amazing and daring on Blizz half to keep adding and trying new stuff in WoW, who would have taught of a mini Pokemon Game...

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