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  gimmesome

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Joined: 8/12/11
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10/18/11 6:07:58 PM#21
Originally posted by odinsrath

i just dont get it..why is player houseing soo important to some people..

when i see comments like "wow i may just re-sub when this comes into play"  or "man i rly hope they have player houseing next patch or expan or im going to rage "  im not just talking about aion ..its alot of mmo's out there..imo there is no reason for it at all and its just more down the lines of the "single player mode" of mmorpg's

First of all, any ADDITIONAL content is a good thing when it comes to MMORPGS.   The more choices a player has to make sure they enjoy their gameplay experience, the better.    As long as each addition doesn't somehow ruin the enjoyment of past features that other players already enjoy.    

 

Second, player housing has never in the past promoted "single player solo mode"   -- Consider that anything placed inside player housing is usually if not ALWAYS something aquired from social activities, or otherwise attained from someone who crafted the item(s).     I strongly suggest you...    actually, nevermind.    I cannot with a clear conscience suggest that anyone from the new breed of "gimme action now i wanna pwn some noobs" mmo gamers set foot in the few but still 'pure' mmorpgs, infecting them with such a lack of vision, imagination, and will to be communal and friendly.

EDIT:  No offense to you personally, odinsrath.    You may be someone who's very friendly and interested in the community aspect of MMORPGs, but... by default, anyone who would say in a forum "i just don't get it. why is player housing soo important to some people" flags themself as someone who's never played a real mmorpg, but instead, started with and likes the MOBA style of games.  

(log on, queue up, hack'n'slash, pewpew, call someone a noob, check out your ratings, log off)

  Kost

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10/18/11 6:36:40 PM#22

Sweet, always happy to see housing make it into any mmorpg.

Considering I recently started playing Aion again, this is a very welcome addition.

Looking forward to it :)

  Kost

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10/18/11 6:38:00 PM#23
Originally posted by odinsrath

i just dont get it..why is player houseing soo important to some people..

Different people like different things, pretty novel concept.

There is nothing to elaborate on, no hidden reason or agenda, it really is that simple. Different strokes for different folks.

  fivoroth

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10/18/11 6:54:09 PM#24
Originally posted by odinsrath

i just dont get it..why is player houseing soo important to some people..

when i see comments like "wow i may just re-sub when this comes into play"  or "man i rly hope they have player houseing next patch or expan or im going to rage "  im not just talking about aion ..its alot of mmo's out there..imo there is no reason for it at all and its just more down the lines of the "single player mode" of mmorpg's

Housing is fun. Why? I don't know. I'd rather have something else to do at max level other than questing or raiding......

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  arctarus

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10/18/11 9:30:48 PM#25
as kost have put it, different players have different preference for certain aspect of the games.




some like pve, some pvp, some pure crafting etc ....



it's always good that a game adds more variety to it and thereby also boasting it's population and makes the game better.



im playing aion now and love it, alot of quest sitting around and the community is very helpful, though sometimes you still news to ignore the lfg chat -.-ll.


think this patch will comes out around Jun of next year, can't wait

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  jahnnho1

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Joined: 10/21/09
Posts: 13

10/18/11 10:59:07 PM#26

this is the best game and played *.*


  marinrider

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10/19/11 12:21:50 AM#27

I normally LOVE player housing, but after looking at the screen shots of the interior it seems so big.  Like, I dont know if that character is small or if the room is just abnormally large.  I like houses that feel realistic.  EQ2 and VG have good house interiors (EQ2 more than VG though).  But if its implemented correctly then I'm very excited for it.


  User Deleted
10/19/11 12:30:13 AM#28

Yeah, I'll deffinetly be back for this one. I've always loved housing in games. I always bounce between WoW and back to EQ2 becuase I love housing.

Can't wait! June?!? Awww... Hope it will be good either way.

  The_Garrison

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Joined: 10/19/11
Posts: 2

10/19/11 1:18:37 AM#29

This will for sure make me get back into the game!  I remember talks of this before the games launch.  I will look into getting my account active soon!


  Mothanos

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10/19/11 3:21:08 AM#30

Not long ago i resubbed to Aion thinking the game would have dealth with the numerous handicaps it had back at release.


 


i started a new alt on a new server and leveld up and dived into the Abyss.


man o man what a disapointed adventure that was....its filled with Twinks hunting you down where ever you are.


I got 1 shotted by a zillion hunters and sorcs :(


From level 25 and up you die at any place where pvp is posible due to twinks roaming the area.


 


Now imagen that at max level you need to farm points and tokens trough pvp and a medium set of armer takes a year to get when you die alot by pimpt out chars and the RNG that is involved -_-


 


Its still so RNG based that for me the fun was gone after 2 weeks of playing again.


If you had a chanse to fight better geared people and your skills was importand i would resub in a heart beat.


But that is totaly not the case in Aion, matter of fact is that you can now buy supllements in real cash shop to make your char even stronger so its bye bye aion for me.


 


Weak points of aion in a tldr:


RNG 


Insane farming for gear


Cash shop to make your char stronger then ever + you monthly sub ? lol


Twinks raping you with 1 shot


Loot still drop way to less


 


No thanks i keep playing Eve / GW1 for the time being ;)


 


  Ethos86

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Joined: 9/03/11
Posts: 129

10/19/11 3:27:16 AM#31

This is terrible. Aion lost it's art style completely.


It used to be okay in the start...


But then came the cash shop items and stupid costumes (bunnies, flowers, idiotic pets) and now a whole different style for the houses. You have to be female or -12 year old to like this, and even then I guess allot would still puke from it.


I'm happy I left the game before Aion 1.5. I used to be one of the best Clerics on my server, leagion leader and organising big zegs in the Abyss... never looked back with regret of leaving.


  JudgeUK

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Joined: 10/15/11
Posts: 733

10/19/11 4:26:42 AM#32



Originally posted by lordathon



Believe it or not, this patch will transform aion into a diferent game, it will be as i expect the 2012 mmo blockbuster. But sure we have too wait. Maybe June?! What is your guess? :P








Btw, dont know why that atonishment with the style, most of the great rooms in Pandemonium are victorian style, or something like that - im not an expert ^-^ but i still like the game, even when they sell on shop a 100% chance to socket manastones (omg i wont forget it).











 




No it will not




The issues that resulted in mass players exiting will still be present.




Do not be too surprised to see furniture items appearing in the online store as NC continue to milk the remaining players.




RNG, hopeless support, server transfer fiasco, terrible community, the list goes on.




Judge's verdict - you may be able to paper over the cracks when you decorate your house -  but not in the game.





 

  r3zs1ckn3ss

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Joined: 10/27/09
Posts: 366

Post prego bewbies feel amazing!!

10/19/11 4:32:17 AM#33

They get rid of the buff items in the cash shops forcing people to actually earn their armor and such IN GAME, I'll consider comning back. Spending RL money on better armor is universally retarded. Player become divided by income. For F2P thats fine because I don't play those. You're paying a sub fee and now you have to pay for the good upgrades? Forget it.

New build in progress.
Stay tuned!!!!!!!!!!!!

  Aeroangel

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10/19/11 5:46:11 AM#34
Originally posted by Ethos86

This is terrible. Aion lost it's art style completely.


It used to be okay in the start...


But then came the cash shop items and stupid costumes (bunnies, flowers, idiotic pets) and now a whole different style for the houses. You have to be female or -12 year old to like this, and even then I guess allot would still puke from it.


I'm happy I left the game before Aion 1.5. I used to be one of the best Clerics on my server, leagion leader and organising big zegs in the Abyss... never looked back with regret of leaving.

Soo you have to be negative 12 years old or a female to like the game? I guess you're saying that you have to be a sperm, and that females have the same taste in video games as sperm? Fantastic. 

On topic: I'm usually one that begs and pleads for player housing in games, but if the game is no good then I have no desire to spend my time making a house in said game. Runes of Magic and several other MMOs have player housing, but if you aren't immersed in the game and wanting to really make the house your home, and share it with the community in that game then what's the point? If you just want to decorate a house might as well play The Sims or use an interior design program. 

I played Aion when it was released for a bit... fantastic little journey (er other than the gold spammers and such) to the mid 20's then the grind and repetitive questing started and the appeal of the abyss and such didn't even make up for it. I don't think player housing will make the game any more bearable (ESPECIALLY considering that this game is play to win now?) but I might resub to try the game out until GW2 comes along... more because I want to see what has become of it, I doubt I'll enjoy it more than I did before I decided to quit. 

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  IrishChai

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Joined: 1/31/11
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10/19/11 7:02:34 AM#35

Originally posted by Ethos86

This is terrible. Aion lost it's art style completely.




It used to be okay in the start...




But then came the cash shop items and stupid costumes (bunnies, flowers, idiotic pets) and now a whole different style for the houses. You have to be female or -12 year old to like this, and even then I guess allot would still puke from it.




I'm happy I left the game before Aion 1.5. I used to be one of the best Clerics on my server, leagion leader and organising big zegs in the Abyss... never looked back with regret of leaving.





 


 


I'm inspired to return after hearing people like you left the game. NCSoft must be on the right track, and I like where they are going with this update.


  Ozmodan

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10/19/11 7:26:39 AM#36

The idea of player housing in separated areas of the game just does not work.  Unless you can put the housing in actual playable areas of the game, like SWG and UO did it is just a superfluous add on.

Aion will never really be a viable option far as I am concerned, as long as they have a cash shop with items that effect gameplay.

  nerovipus32

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10/19/11 7:39:52 AM#37
Originally posted by odinsrath

i just dont get it..why is player houseing soo important to some people..

when i see comments like "wow i may just re-sub when this comes into play"  or "man i rly hope they have player houseing next patch or expan or im going to rage "  im not just talking about aion ..its alot of mmo's out there..imo there is no reason for it at all and its just more down the lines of the "single player mode" of mmorpg's

Housing  has been in mmorpg's since ultima online so really its not a new thing and also it gives to the community it doesn't take away from it.

  IrishChai

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10/19/11 7:43:17 AM#38
Originally posted by Ozmodan

The idea of player housing in separated areas of the game just does not work.  Unless you can put the housing in actual playable areas of the game, like SWG and UO did it is just a superfluous add on.

Aion will never really be a viable option far as I am concerned, as long as they have a cash shop with items that effect gameplay.

 

I agree that it was more fun in SWG and UO, but that wasn't without it's obvious problems too like the frustrating remote availability of an open space to even place a house.

 

Instanced housing like EQ2 and Lotro have already proven to be popular with the playerbase made apparent in the websites devoted to showing off your place, having contests around best decorated houses, or how to get all the different decorations and/or housing types, not to mention hangouts for you and guildies, friends, or whoever.. So you might not like the idea, but it works just fine for a lot of players. Superfluous? Yeah, of course, but no more than any of the outfit dyes, clothing skins, appearance options, and tons of other popular content.

  askdaboss

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10/19/11 7:53:50 AM#39
Originally posted by Ozmodan

The idea of player housing in separated areas of the game just does not work.  Unless you can put the housing in actual playable areas of the game, like SWG and UO did it is just a superfluous add on.

Yeah, I guess that was more or less my point when I was asking "What's with the excitement about player housing? Especially if there is no gameplay aspect involving houses.", or probably odinsrath comments. It seems a bit like a superfluous add on (a bit of a bonus), which really makes it a bit of a stretch for me to say that suddenly the subscription to Aion becomes worth it again ("The Sims" anyone?).

Now, it's funny that if we don't "understand" player housing (in this specific context) we are qualified by some people as "gimme action now i wanna pwn some noobs" type of player or it is assumed that we are "logging on to an MMORPG to simply be on top of some chart or DPS meter", or that we "flag ourselves as someone who's never played a real mmorpg, but instead, started with and likes the MOBA style of games (log on, queue up, hack'n'slash, pewpew, call someone a noob, check out your ratings, log off)".

This poster, as someone who is not "from the new breed of "gimme action now i wanna pwn some noobs" mmo gamers set foot in the few but still 'pure' mmorpgs, infecting them with such a lack of vision, imagination, and will to be communal and friendly", seem very imaginative (others = thugs MMOs Vs refined MMOs = me) , friendly ("infecting 'pure' MMORPGs") and barely prejudiced.

I am confident however he is not a representation of the majority.

  askdaboss

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10/19/11 7:55:05 AM#40
Originally posted by IrishChai
Originally posted by Ozmodan

The idea of player housing in separated areas of the game just does not work.  Unless you can put the housing in actual playable areas of the game, like SWG and UO did it is just a superfluous add on.

Aion will never really be a viable option far as I am concerned, as long as they have a cash shop with items that effect gameplay.

 I agree that it was more fun in SWG and UO, but that wasn't without it's obvious problems too like the frustrating remote availability of an open space to even place a house.

Instanced housing like EQ2 and Lotro have already proven to be popular with the playerbase made apparent in the websites devoted to showing off your place, having contests around best decorated houses, or how to get all the different decorations and/or housing types, not to mention hangouts for you and guildies, friends, or whoever.. So you might not like the idea, but it works just fine for a lot of players. Superfluous? Yeah, of course, but no more than any of the outfit dyes, clothing skins, appearance options, and tons of other popular content.

Thanks for this reply. Actually, contests about best decorated house somehow feel fun - I would just like to see what players can come up with... =D

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