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Originally posted by nerovipus32

Originally posted by Fratman

 "The open zone world PvP is the most anticipated topic right now and hopefully we will get more information as we get closer to launch"

We're only about 6-7 weeks away from launch depending on when early access starts. How can Bioware justify not being able to talk about basic gameplay like open world pvp yet? Are they going to tell us the night before release?  Seems really weird.

I get the impression they were aiming for a 2012 release, but for whatever reason now they're just scrambling to finish stuff and push it out the door by the end of the year.

some people like to go into  game not knowing every little detail, the internet can kill a game for you before you play it..for once go in and be surprised.

 

I so totally agree with you on that one information on the internet can really kill a good game. I think people who TRUST Bioware to bring them a great game will have what they receive " A Great Game". It is okay to love pvp (I know I do) however that is not the core of this game as we all should know. Being that Bioware does not release information concerning this doesn't affect me one bit as long as the storyline proves to be an experence in itself. I truly understand people want to see much more than which is given but it seems as no matter how much information they give out they would have more people wanting more information. It is kind of sad when gamers now days act like 10 year old children who want to see and play with their christmas presents 5 days before christmas day.

Originally posted by Teala

Originally posted by BadSpock

Originally posted by Teala

I was not wrong about Rift...how are them subs going?  LOL!

Better then EVE's? Better then any game released since WoW?

Just because RIFT wasn't the second coming of Christ doesn't make you right.

 

No it wasn't.   Though people on these boards and the official forums tried to make it seem like it was.  Just like they did for War, Aion and every game since the release of WoW.    Just like all the games that came before SW:ToR is so hyped it isn't even funny.  In fact it is sad.   Sad because once the game is launched and people see just how stagnat the game, the games worlds, and the game play is - ...they'll be like 'I paid X for this?'  

Oh well...I said my piece.   See you a year after it launches.  We'll compare notes!

You do realize that there's a few more options then just "second coming" and "fail"?

SWToR is going to be just fine. A month after release there's going to be a bunch of idiot fanboys whining because they weren't smart enough to set realistic expectations. The game won't suffer so much as that same month a bunch of idiot haters are going to decide the game ain't so bad after all.

The second coming fanboys aren't really representative of the larger fanbase, they just scream the loudest.

Rift seems to be doing fine. SWToR will likely do even better.

Also, since you seem so consistent in it's use, stagnat is not a word....

Originally posted by Distopia

Originally posted by Teala

Originally posted by BadSpock

Originally posted by Teala

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It's ok, EvE and Mount and Blade and Archeage and Darkfall are still going to exist after TOR and GW2 are released and crush everything under the sun.

You'll still have plenty of games to enjoy.

So... why do you care so much that more people enjoy WoW then pretty much all other MMOs combined?

 

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No I am putting LOL because it is funny to see some of the same people that slammed me for games like War, LoTR,s. D&DOnline, Aion, AoC, Rift and many otehr games slamming me again - and I was right on every game.   Keep raging on me though.   Like I said...I'm done.   See you all in a year.   :)

Originally posted by Teala

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No it wasn't.   Though people on these boards and the official forums tried to make it seem like it was.  Just like they did for War, Aion and every game since the release of WoW.    Just like all the games that came before SW:ToR is so hyped it isn't even funny.  In fact it is sad.   Sad because once the game is launched and people see just how stagnat the game, the games worlds, and the game play is - ...they'll be like 'I paid X for this?'  

Oh well...I said my piece.   See you a year after it launches.  We'll compare notes!

You do realize there are also plenty of people who bought Rift or who have played TOR as well as the others, who were completely happy with what they received? This is just a pointless topic to discuss. Your talking personal opinion here, there's no right or wrong or facts to be given a year from now, no matter how it turns out, the end result will be the same. Some will like it some don't, there will be no gauge to see who the majority is, just like there isn't one now to prove you right or wrong about RIFT.

Second you're arguing over hype, how redundant is that? No game lives up to its hype, none. Are we to be surprised when those who've built up TOR are disappointed it's not everything they dreamed it to be? This happens with every game good or bad, again arguing over it is redundant, it gets us no where.

Originally posted by Teala

Originally posted by Distopia

Originally posted by Teala

Originally posted by BadSpock

Originally posted by Teala

I'd be a very rich gamer if I got paid a nickle every time someone said this to me.   :)   Tag this post and we'll see you in a year.

It's ok, EvE and Mount and Blade and Archeage and Darkfall are still going to exist after TOR and GW2 are released and crush everything under the sun.

You'll still have plenty of games to enjoy.

So... why do you care so much that more people enjoy WoW then pretty much all other MMOs combined?

 

Who said I am blowing a trumpet for WoW?  Not me.   Clearly you are one that fails to read the book they are given.  Just sayin'.  LOL!

The fact that you keep using LOL after every statement, says you're trolling for the LAWLS...

No I am putting LOL because it is funny to see some of the same people that slammed me for games like War, LoTR,s. D&DOnline, Aion, AoC, Rift and many otehr games slamming me again - and I was right on every game.   Keep raging on me though.   Like I said...I'm done.   See you all in a year.   :)

I shall remember this post and link you to it the next time I catch you commenting on TOR. My oppinion on the game is irrelevant, I just want to see someone so outspoken keep to their word. Good bye, I hope. wouldn't want to be a hypocrite like those you called out.

.................... Badspock is right ignore the nonsense and block those who spread it...

Anyone else feel MMORPG.com should focus more on video in the future? Of course they could imporve their quality as it stands, but I do like the idea of video reports here and there.

I am going to say it one more time for those that didn't see it.

I was skepitcal about SWTOR after seeing a lot of the videos and such.

I got an invite to beta

I now have 2 CE's ordered (one for the wife)

Most Beta testers WANT the NDA lifted so we can finally shut people up spewing nonsense.

Also, Bioware has already already broken every EA pre-order record now with SWTOR INCLUDING beating BF3. That record was broke BEFORE a release date was given.

Just stating facts without NDA breaches.

BACK on topic.

I have my doubts about the validity of Bioware's statements regarding open world PvP and the equal focus on PvP in this game.

Why?

Experience. Open world PvP is very hard to do right. Very hard. Even Mythic "got it wrong" with WAR because I feel they gave far too much focus to the scenarios, made them far too easy to advance in and get the rewards.

If instanced warfronts are the "level up" pvp and the open-world is the "end-game" PvP then I feel they have a good chance at being successful.

Rumor has it the newest in-game trailer was all open-world PvP on Illum, which if THAT is how "intense" it is, I will be greatly impressed.

That being said... we just don't know if it is going to be like Wintergrasp in WoW where it is not constant but more "scripted" and honestly given the Bioware focus on story, I wouldn't doubt if it was more scripted and on a timer like Wintergrasp.

We shall see though...

Originally posted by BadSpock

BACK on topic.

I have my doubts about the validity of Bioware's statements regarding open world PvP and the equal focus on PvP in this game.

Why?

Experience. Open world PvP is very hard to do right. Very hard. Even Mythic "got it wrong" with WAR because I feel they gave far too much focus to the scenarios, made them far too easy to advance in and get the rewards.

If instanced warfronts are the "level up" pvp and the open-world is the "end-game" PvP then I feel they have a good chance at being successful.

Rumor has it the newest in-game trailer was all open-world PvP on Illum, which if THAT is how "intense" it is, I will be greatly impressed.

That being said... we just don't know if it is going to be like Wintergrasp in WoW where it is not constant but more "scripted" and honestly given the Bioware focus on story, I wouldn't doubt if it was more scripted and on a timer like Wintergrasp.

We shall see though...

I would think in order to truly test end game open world PvP, you would need a Full Server of equal or semi equal players at that level in an area so you can test it out.

Originally posted by BadSpock

BACK on topic.

I have my doubts about the validity of Bioware's statements regarding open world PvP and the equal focus on PvP in this game.

Why?

Experience. Open world PvP is very hard to do right. Very hard. Even Mythic "got it wrong" with WAR because I feel they gave far too much focus to the scenarios, made them far too easy to advance in and get the rewards.

If instanced warfronts are the "level up" pvp and the open-world is the "end-game" PvP then I feel they have a good chance at being successful.

Rumor has it the newest in-game trailer was all open-world PvP on Illum, which if THAT is how "intense" it is, I will be greatly impressed.

That being said... we just don't know if it is going to be like Wintergrasp in WoW where it is not constant but more "scripted" and honestly given the Bioware focus on story, I wouldn't doubt if it was more scripted and on a timer like Wintergrasp.

We shall see though...

Conjecture: I believe it will vary between Pre-Battleground WoW and Post-Battleground WoW. I haven't seen nor heard evidence that any capture points or the like will be present. I expect traditional "Zerging" tactics of large scale roaming bands.

Oppinion: From my experience interacting with the Devs on a personal level, they are very passionate about their game and getting as much interesting things in as smoothly and as ballanced as possible.

Unconfirmable statement: One of the devs expressed a strong desire to place Open World PvP "Bounty Hunting" in game.

Originally posted by Distopia

.................... Badspock is right ignore the nonsense and block those who spread it...

Anyone else feel MMORPG.com should focus more on video in the future? Of course they could imporve their quality as it stands, but I do like the idea of video reports here and there.

We intend to. I love video and have always been pushing for it. Moar video! We've been doing a number of video reviews in recent months, and of course RipperX's various videos. This will be a continuing trend for sure.

Originally posted by BadSpock

BACK on topic.

I have my doubts about the validity of Bioware's statements regarding open world PvP and the equal focus on PvP in this game.

Why?

Experience. Open world PvP is very hard to do right. Very hard. Even Mythic "got it wrong" with WAR because I feel they gave far too much focus to the scenarios, made them far too easy to advance in and get the rewards.

If instanced warfronts are the "level up" pvp and the open-world is the "end-game" PvP then I feel they have a good chance at being successful.

Rumor has it the newest in-game trailer was all open-world PvP on Illum, which if THAT is how "intense" it is, I will be greatly impressed.

That being said... we just don't know if it is going to be like Wintergrasp in WoW where it is not constant but more "scripted" and honestly given the Bioware focus on story, I wouldn't doubt if it was more scripted and on a timer like Wintergrasp.

We shall see though...

While I don't want to complain about TOR PvP as I haven't experience it yet.  I'd be more happy if Warfronts gave minor XP, and other rewards were removed. So that they could add area's similar to WarHammers PvP lakes, and place the rewards there, as well as in Open PvP.  Nothing against instanced PvP.  I actually do enjoy it, but I think it should be a tool that simply is used for Ladder Rankings (To give a small measure of fairness, to judge Top Guild teams etc) and general quick pvp fix's. (Ex: I only have 30 mins today.  Let me jump in a Warfront because I'm itching for some quick PvP.) I'd like to see the reward for Warfronts simply be nothing more then the enjoyment of it, (And alittle XP for your time, not alot mind you, like your Warhammer example, don't want to see that happen) and as I said Ranking if the match is flagged as such.

Originally posted by MikeB

Originally posted by Distopia

.................... Badspock is right ignore the nonsense and block those who spread it...

Anyone else feel MMORPG.com should focus more on video in the future? Of course they could imporve their quality as it stands, but I do like the idea of video reports here and there.

We intend to. I love video and have always been pushing for it. Moar video! We've been doing a number of video reviews in recent months, and of course RipperX's various videos. This will be a continuing trend for sure.

Sweetness.

Did I hear one of them say they want to make it where you cannot repeat flashpoints? I think this is a mistake. I don't support lvl 50s running people through the flashpoints, but I do support running a single flashpoint a few times to get more chance of gear drop and for the chance to play the flashpoint with more than just 3 of your friends.

Maybe I heard it wrong, but I am against a 1 time only rule on a flashpoint.

Originally posted by Thornrage

Did I hear one of them say they want to make it where you cannot repeat flashpoints? I think this is a mistake. I don't support lvl 50s running people through the flashpoints, but I do support running a single flashpoint a few times to get more chance of gear drop and for the chance to play the flashpoint with more than just 3 of your friends.

Maybe I heard it wrong, but I am against a 1 time only rule on a flashpoint.

I thought I heard them say over and over that you can do them mutiple times even once you've reached endgame, you can go back to early FP's and do them on harder levels of difficulty.

Let's stay on topic guys. Please follow the Rules of Conduct when posting. Do not personally attack others. Also, please remember the NDA for SWTOR is still in effect. You may say you are in beta, but absolutely nothing else.

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"I thought I heard them say over and over that you can do them mutiple times even once you've reached endgame, you can go back to early FP's and do them on harder levels of difficulty."

I was speaking of doing FPs many times before 50. It seems from the panel one of them wants to make it so you can only run it once until you are level 50. I could be wrong though.

don't worry, I bet bioware will get down on it before release.

"This also led to the role playing question which the team said there would be plenty of chances to role play, yet nothing specific was added into the game yet. Although, they expect the role playing community to be a big part of the game and will monitor the activity closely."

I will hold my opinion after playing the game, but with a game so focused on "the story" this makes zero sense.