Yes i know they have a tiny Item mall now, But putting item mall under the catagory under Fees is false and wrong, The game isn't supported buy an item mall nor is it a big deal. All the item mall has is for avatars and looks. it is still a $15/month game. If you're putting games under that because of a item mall then why isn't guild wars also under that?  

Originally posted by lionexx

Yes i know they have a tiny Item mall now, But putting item mall under the catagory under Fees is false and wrong, The game isn't supported buy an item mall nor is it a big deal. All the item mall has is for avatars and looks. it is still a $15/month game. If you're putting games under that because of a item mall then why isn't guild wars also under that?  

but... it... HAS... an... item... mall...  subscription and item mall sums up CCP's payment scheme perfectly.

Probably just a mistake, like when they had rift as #1 in the "Free MMOs to Play or Download Now!" list for several weeks.

EDIT: And it's still there

CCP's response to the NEX debacle.

http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6339021/microtransaction-missteps-in-eve-online

So yes it has an item store and no its not going away.

:CCP:

Whats the point really, in the future many MMO's will be a combination payment model, with additional items for sale somewhere beyond the sub fee.

Originally posted by Hazelle

Originally posted by lionexx

Yes i know they have a tiny Item mall now, But putting item mall under the catagory under Fees is false and wrong, The game isn't supported buy an item mall nor is it a big deal. All the item mall has is for avatars and looks. it is still a $15/month game. If you're putting games under that because of a item mall then why isn't guild wars also under that?  

but... it... HAS... an... item... mall...  subscription and item mall sums up CCP's payment scheme perfectly.

It seems odd to list EVE but not UO, Fallen Earth, Everquest 2, LOTRO or Age of Conan as having an item mall.

Originally posted by Loktofeit

Originally posted by Hazelle

Originally posted by lionexx

Yes i know they have a tiny Item mall now, But putting item mall under the catagory under Fees is false and wrong, The game isn't supported buy an item mall nor is it a big deal. All the item mall has is for avatars and looks. it is still a $15/month game. If you're putting games under that because of a item mall then why isn't guild wars also under that?  

but... it... HAS... an... item... mall...  subscription and item mall sums up CCP's payment scheme perfectly.

It seems odd to list EVE but not UO, Fallen Earth, Everquest 2, LOTRO or Age of Conan as having an item mall.

My point.

Originally posted by Codenak

CCP's response to the NEX debacle.

 

http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6339021/microtransaction-missteps-in-eve-online

 

So yes it has an item store and no its not going away.

 

:CCP:

A random post and misconception of what is really going on. I play Eve i see whats in the NEX Store. It's not a big deal, People will always complain.

Originally posted by Loktofeit

Originally posted by Hazelle

Originally posted by lionexx

Yes i know they have a tiny Item mall now, But putting item mall under the catagory under Fees is false and wrong, The game isn't supported buy an item mall nor is it a big deal. All the item mall has is for avatars and looks. it is still a $15/month game. If you're putting games under that because of a item mall then why isn't guild wars also under that?  

but... it... HAS... an... item... mall...  subscription and item mall sums up CCP's payment scheme perfectly.

It seems odd to list EVE but not UO, Fallen Earth, Everquest 2, LOTRO or Age of Conan as having an item mall.

Just because it's not listed with those other games doesn't make it untrue with eve online.  It's a fact that ccp has an item mall for eve online.  Listing it as both sub and item shop is not an error.

If it upsets you that those other games are not listed as item mall shop and sub inform MMORPG.com that they need to address the issue as I'm sure somebody did in the case of eve online...

the squeaky wheel gets the grease 

Originally posted by Hazelle

Originally posted by Loktofeit

Originally posted by Hazelle

Originally posted by lionexx

Yes i know they have a tiny Item mall now, But putting item mall under the catagory under Fees is false and wrong, The game isn't supported buy an item mall nor is it a big deal. All the item mall has is for avatars and looks. it is still a $15/month game. If you're putting games under that because of a item mall then why isn't guild wars also under that?  

but... it... HAS... an... item... mall...  subscription and item mall sums up CCP's payment scheme perfectly.

It seems odd to list EVE but not UO, Fallen Earth, Everquest 2, LOTRO or Age of Conan as having an item mall.

Just because it's not listed with those other games doesn't make it untrue with eve online. It's a fact that ccp has an item mall for eve online.   Listing it as both sub and item shop  is not an error.

If it upsets you that those other games are not listed as item mall shop and sub inform MMORPG.com that they need to address the issue as I'm sure somebody did in the case of eve online...

the squeaky wheel gets the grease 

You're talking about the Pay column. No one is questioning that.

We're talking about the Fee column. The one titled "Fee"

Not sure how you got 'upset' from the tone or wording of my post, either, but i guess if you didn't really read the topic, it's very likely you also really just skimmed the reply posts as well.  vov

-1 4u, Hazzie

Eve is one of the few games that let you legally transfer real life currency to in-game money in any ammount you wish. mmorpg.com listing is right.

Originally posted by Loktofeit

Originally posted by Hazelle

Originally posted by Loktofeit

Originally posted by Hazelle

Originally posted by lionexx

Yes i know they have a tiny Item mall now, But putting item mall under the catagory under Fees is false and wrong, The game isn't supported buy an item mall nor is it a big deal. All the item mall has is for avatars and looks. it is still a $15/month game. If you're putting games under that because of a item mall then why isn't guild wars also under that?  

but... it... HAS... an... item... mall...  subscription and item mall sums up CCP's payment scheme perfectly.

It seems odd to list EVE but not UO, Fallen Earth, Everquest 2, LOTRO or Age of Conan as having an item mall.

Just because it's not listed with those other games doesn't make it untrue with eve online. It's a fact that ccp has an item mall for eve online.   Listing it as both sub and item shop  is not an error.

If it upsets you that those other games are not listed as item mall shop and sub inform MMORPG.com that they need to address the issue as I'm sure somebody did in the case of eve online...

the squeaky wheel gets the grease 

 

You're talking about the Pay column. No one is questioning that.

We're talking about the Fee column. The one titled "Fee"

Not sure how you got 'upset' from the tone or wording of my post, either, but i guess if you didn't really read the topic, it's very likely you also really just skimmed the reply posts as well.  vov

 

-1 4u, Hazzie

 

None of what you said above is a valid point towards the topic of this thread.

Eve has a purchase price, a subsciption payment, and an item mall.  Any of those could occupy the space under "FEE" all are valid.  They're valid under "fee" or "payment" or any other synonym  used to describe the collection of money for a product or service.

It's a little tendentious to say that EVE has a "purchase price" when you can activate an account for 30 days for... the price of 30 days subscription.

Originally posted by Malcanis

It's a little tendentious to say that EVE has a "purchase price" when you can activate an account for 30 days for... the price of 30 days subscription.

I bought the game for 20 bucks a few years ago. The sub price for 30 days is 15 dollars.

Originally posted by Hazelle

Originally posted by Loktofeit

Originally posted by Hazelle

Originally posted by Loktofeit

Originally posted by Hazelle

Originally posted by lionexx

Yes i know they have a tiny Item mall now, But putting item mall under the catagory under Fees is false and wrong, The game isn't supported buy an item mall nor is it a big deal. All the item mall has is for avatars and looks. it is still a $15/month game. If you're putting games under that because of a item mall then why isn't guild wars also under that?  

but... it... HAS... an... item... mall...  subscription and item mall sums up CCP's payment scheme perfectly.

It seems odd to list EVE but not UO, Fallen Earth, Everquest 2, LOTRO or Age of Conan as having an item mall.

Just because it's not listed with those other games doesn't make it untrue with eve online. It's a fact that ccp has an item mall for eve online.   Listing it as both sub and item shop  is not an error.

If it upsets you that those other games are not listed as item mall shop and sub inform MMORPG.com that they need to address the issue as I'm sure somebody did in the case of eve online...

the squeaky wheel gets the grease 

 

You're talking about the Pay column. No one is questioning that.

We're talking about the Fee column. The one titled "Fee"

Not sure how you got 'upset' from the tone or wording of my post, either, but i guess if you didn't really read the topic, it's very likely you also really just skimmed the reply posts as well.  vov

 

-1 4u, Hazzie

 

None of what you said above is a valid point towards the topic of this thread.

Eve has a purchase price, a subsciption payment, and an item mall.  Any of those could occupy the space under "FEE" all are valid.  They're valid under "fee" or "payment" or any other synonym  used to describe the collection of money for a product or service.

If it wasn't described as 'monthly fee' then not only would I agree with you but I'd also consider that column rather redundant.

Originally posted by Hazelle

Originally posted by Malcanis

It's a little tendentious to say that EVE has a "purchase price" when you can activate an account for 30 days for... the price of 30 days subscription.

I bought the game for 20 bucks a few years ago. The sub price for 30 days is 15 dollars.

did you get a box?... 

I got a disc 7 years ago for the price of month. including 1 month sub.. 

But they have made boxed versions since then that included an ingame shuttle or other item. and possibly more than 30 days sub.

Still its fairly simple to get the game for nothing and only paying for the sub. Its even been possible to get a discount in the sub in the past.. Dunno if that is currently possible.

And seeing as you can even pay for the sub with ingame money... I think it safe to say that EVE doesnt easily fit into any sort of categorization.. I mean that could be marketed as Play to Play and not Pay to Play.

It should infact have a marker at F2P too. Although it that would require a lot of initial work to make possible for the new player.

Recon its often newer players that sell game time to older players to get some starting ingame cash..

It is odd that the retail price is listed at 30 bucks.. twice what it actually is... as far as I can tell from any source I looked at.

Originally posted by Hazelle

Originally posted by Loktofeit

Originally posted by Hazelle

Originally posted by Loktofeit

Originally posted by Hazelle

Originally posted by lionexx

Yes i know they have a tiny Item mall now, But putting item mall under the catagory under Fees is false and wrong, The game isn't supported buy an item mall nor is it a big deal. All the item mall has is for avatars and looks. it is still a $15/month game. If you're putting games under that because of a item mall then why isn't guild wars also under that?  

but... it... HAS... an... item... mall...  subscription and item mall sums up CCP's payment scheme perfectly.

It seems odd to list EVE but not UO, Fallen Earth, Everquest 2, LOTRO or Age of Conan as having an item mall.

Just because it's not listed with those other games doesn't make it untrue with eve online. It's a fact that ccp has an item mall for eve online.   Listing it as both sub and item shop  is not an error.

If it upsets you that those other games are not listed as item mall shop and sub inform MMORPG.com that they need to address the issue as I'm sure somebody did in the case of eve online...

the squeaky wheel gets the grease 

 

You're talking about the Pay column. No one is questioning that.

We're talking about the Fee column. The one titled "Fee"

Not sure how you got 'upset' from the tone or wording of my post, either, but i guess if you didn't really read the topic, it's very likely you also really just skimmed the reply posts as well.  vov

 

-1 4u, Hazzie

 

None of what you said above is a valid point towards the topic of this thread.

Eve has a purchase price, a subsciption payment, and an item mall.  Any of those could occupy the space under "FEE" all are valid.  They're valid under "fee" or "payment" or any other synonym  used to describe the collection of money for a product or service.

To be fair, It doesn't have a item mall. You don't buy the items with real money. You buy another currancy that can be used to buy these items in the NEX store(Which again are only cosmetic items nothing more).  And they are all VAILD points.

Originally posted by WW4BW

Originally posted by Hazelle

Originally posted by Malcanis

It's a little tendentious to say that EVE has a "purchase price" when you can activate an account for 30 days for... the price of 30 days subscription.

I bought the game for 20 bucks a few years ago. The sub price for 30 days is 15 dollars.

did you get a box?... 

I got a disc 7 years ago for the price of month. including 1 month sub.. 

But they have made boxed versions since then that included an ingame shuttle or other item. and possibly more than 30 days sub.

Still its fairly simple to get the game for nothing and only paying for the sub. Its even been possible to get a discount in the sub in the past.. Dunno if that is currently possible.

And seeing as you can even pay for the sub with ingame money... I think it safe to say that EVE doesnt easily fit into any sort of categorization.. I mean that could be marketed as Play to Play and not Pay to Play.

It should infact have a marker at F2P too. Although it that would require a lot of initial work to make possible for the new player.

Recon its often newer players that sell game time to older players to get some starting ingame cash..

It is odd that the retail price is listed at 30 bucks.. twice what it actually is... as far as I can tell from any source I looked at.

I did not get a box, i paid 30 dollars for the game 5 years ago. 15 for the game 15 for 30days. I disagree with the F2P Statement reguardless of how you look at it you either pay a monthly fee or you work in game for the money to buy a plex, Their is no free part of it. It's not like a day 1 newbie can get that sort of ISK quickly working for it.