God this site is slow as molasses tonight, anyways....

I think those screens look great and hey Remy 1980 called they want their humour back  

Graphics dont mean squat its all about gameplay and I LIKE the look of the game! Can't wait to hear more about the game. Kishe don't listen to em, people who judge a beta by graphics are like....well short sighted is the nicest way I can put it.

Whether you agree or disagree with Remy, I found his statement rather funny. And I could carry it on by saying "Hey Anarchy, George Costanza called ...he wants his sense of humor back."

Yes, graphics are not the be all end all of a game. I think the issue is that they are avoiding a simple request to show what an in-game shot looks like. It isn't like the community wants someone to break the NDA. We all keep hearing about how improvements have been made across the board, especially the graphics. Since sharing a few current screenshots would not violate the NDA ...why not have one of the beta testers simply take one, since the devs seem unwilling or indifferent. If anything, do it to shut me up.

Boris

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Originally posted by SirBoris
Whether you agree or disagree with Remy, I found his statement rather funny. And I could carry it on by saying "Hey Anarchy, George Costanza called ...he wants his sense of humor back."
Yes, graphics are not the be all end all of a game. I think the issue is that they are avoiding a simple request to show what an in-game shot looks like. It isn't like the community wants someone to break the NDA. We all keep hearing about how improvements have been made across the board, especially the graphics. Since sharing a few current screenshots would not violate the NDA ...why not have one of the beta testers simply take one, since the devs seem unwilling or indifferent. If anything, do it to shut me up.
Boris

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Actually, sharing screenshots ARE violation of NDA...I got scolded just for having screenshot of a bug i sent them on unsecure server.

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Originally posted by anarchyart

God this site is slow as molasses tonight, anyways....

I think those screens look great and hey Remy 1980 called they want their humour back  

Graphics dont mean squat its all about gameplay and I LIKE the look of the game! Can't wait to hear more about the game. Kishe don't listen to em, people who judge a beta by graphics are like....well short sighted is the nicest way I can put it.

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Originally posted by kishe

Actually, sharing screenshots ARE violation of NDA...I got scolded just for having screenshot of a bug i sent them on unsecure server.

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Well then I guess I should back off from pressuring beta testers to cough up some screenshots, if it indeed is in violation of the NDA. Still I am utterly amazed that the devs have not even sent out a few screenshots just to satisfy the community, or ...shut us naysayers up about the graphics. Especially with a July 10th release date.

Yes, I know you have climbed the mountain and proclaimed upon high that MMORPG made that date up, that the game is still in early beta ...even to go as far as saying that the devs "told you" that the game now will be ready when it is ready. However, it just doesn't make sense. If this site did indeed fabricate the release date why havent the devs contacted them? They must obviously know about this error. How long has it been posted? Four weeks, six weeks, longer? Other websites clearly listed a July or a near July release shortly after E3. Some are direct interviews with the chief devs! So my theory is that July (early, mid or late for that matter) was likely more from a press release or an interview with ...um I dunno, the devs?

Sure dates get pushed around all the time in this industry. One website lists the game was on schedule to be released in May of this year. Why you or the devs couldn't simply state that they needed to extend the release date escapes me ...why pin the blame falsely on MMORPG?

So I was wrong to expect the beta testers to start sharing the graphic goods with us, as ...according to you is in violation of the NDA. But I wonder about you ...the all knowing Kishe. You say you are not a dev but you present yourself as someone very well informed, more than any beta (volunteer) tester I have ever heard of. Thinking of you as a dev posing as a fanboy makes a lot of sense based on your behavior and how you bring down a hailstorm to those who give even the slightest negative observation to your game. And it is indeed your game, your baby. You certainly have demonstrated your vested interest quite often.

Boris

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Originally posted by SirBoris

Originally posted by kishe

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Actually, sharing screenshots ARE violation of NDA...I got scolded just for having screenshot of a bug i sent them on unsecure server.

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Well then I guess I should back off from pressuring beta testers to cough up some screenshots, if it indeed is in violation of the NDA. Still I am utterly amazed that the devs have not even sent out a few screenshots just to satisfy the community, or ...shut us naysayers up about the graphics. Especially with a July 10th release date.
Yes, I know you have climbed the mountain and proclaimed upon high that MMORPG made that date up, that the game is still in early beta ...even to go as far as saying that the devs "told you" that the game now will be ready when it is ready. However, it just doesn't make sense. If this site did indeed fabricate the release date why havent the devs contacted them? They must obviously know about this error. How long has it been posted? Four weeks, six weeks, longer? Other websites clearly listed a July or a near July release shortly after E3. Some are direct interviews with the chief devs! So my theory is that July (early, mid or late for that matter) was likely more from a press release or an interview with ...um I dunno, the devs?
Sure dates get pushed around all the time in this industry. One website lists the game was on schedule to be released in May of this year. Why you or the devs couldn't simply state that they needed to extend the release date escapes me ...why pin the blame falsely on MMORPG?
So I was wrong to expect the beta testers to start sharing the graphic goods with us, as ...according to you is in violation of the NDA. But I wonder about you ...the all knowing Kishe. You say you are not a dev but you present yourself as someone very well informed, more than any beta (volunteer) tester I have ever heard of. Thinking of you as a dev posing as a fanboy makes a lot of sense based on your behavior and how you bring down a hailstorm to those who give even the slightest negative observation to your game. And it is indeed your game, your baby. You certainly have demonstrated your vested interest quite often.

Boris

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I hang out at Irth's irc channel and speak to devs daily like most of irth testers...they're honest and answers you when you ask them. Most other long time testers boycots mmorpg.com but I'm the official masochist.

It's pretty much written in stone there will be delays, how long...well, we have been told to wait for official announcement to know that...i was wrong about them making the date up...that date was true untill after E3 there has been LOT of delays.

and preprare! I'm going to say something negative about the game!

These devs are good and knows what they're doing but they really really REALLY could use new marketing people...they really have none atm...

Actually, Sharing these screen shots:

http://www.irthonline.com/gallery/gallery.asp?categoryid=22

Is not against any NDA. And feel free to apply for the Irth Online Beta and experience the game for yourself, isntead of prejudging based on Screenshots, at the following link:

http://www.irthonline.com/betasignup.aspx

Enjoy! :)

Dev Chat today, August 1st 2005, at 5PM EST.

Hope to see some of you there :)